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Naruto Chapter 396: Tobi Unmasked!

5 April 2008 125 Comments


Post Author: Bob

Hoo boy, what a chapter. There wasn’t a lot of action in this one, but oh man, did it provides a lot of answers to some of the burning questions I’m sure all of us have been wanting to have answered. Before I get to those, I’ll do my super fast summary of these 17 pages because I want to get to the juicy bits fast.

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Okay. Tobi says bye-bye and pulls a Houdini. Kakashi gets Hinata to find Sasuke and everyone races there like rats on fire. But Tobi’s got warp speed and gets his grubby hands on Sasuke first. He also planned ahead and gave Zetsu a ninja camcorder to record the little spat between weasel-kun and emo-kid. Yamato thinks he’s Moses and creates a path for everyone to get through the Amaterasu. But they’re too late again and Naruto’s cursing like a drunken trucker… but Kishi decided to cut those pages out, so oh well. Sasuke wakes up and realizes he’s been abducted by another weird man and brought to a dark cave. But this man could be family so I guess it’s okay?

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Now, what was important about this chapter?

First, the abilities of Tobi and Zetsu. We get to see Tobi’s special jutsu in action, and it’s clear that Kakashi was right about it being a space/time technique. Besides the waving of his hand (which was really just another taunt), Tobi used absolutely no hand seals to activate his ability. His body is literally sucked into a rift in space and then transported to another location. Zetsu made a comment about Tobi being able to travel at the speed of light – so his space/time jutsu must be like walking through a door and ending up somewhere miles away, and it appears to be instantaneous. Another thing I observed is that the ability is not just Tobi cutting a hole in space and jumping through. Remember last chapter how Tobi was able to escape Shino’s bugs by using his jutsu. Well, if he just cut a hole and jumped in, then at least a few bugs would have gone with him as they were clinging to his body. But none did because Shino lost complete track of Tobi. This means that Tobi’s entire body IS the hole and he can control what goes through and what doesn’t. This type of space/time jutsu is far superior to the type Kakashi used on Deidara because it does not need to be aimed or projected to work. It’s really a devastatingly powerful jutsu if you think about it. So far Tobi has been using it to evade attacks, but what if he went on the offensive? This might be kind of gross to imagine, but what if he rematerializes inside a part of a person’s body? Like the Fourth’s ability, Tobi’s is also an instant kill type jutsu. Oh yeah, with all this talk about Tobi, I almost neglected Zetsu’s newly revealed ability. It’s really hard to categorize this guy… okay so now he’s a plant/cannibal/VCR. Weird combo.

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Second thing to notice. I want to first thank ShikamaruIsTheMan for pointing it out already in the discussions – the true Shikamaru would be proud of you man J Yeah, so look at the panels where Sasuke wakes up on pages 13 and 14. Look at his left shoulder, notice something different? No cursed seal! What does this mean? Orochimaru has been completely wiped from his body. Now this doesn’t mean Orochimaru is dead necessarily since Itachi sealed him, not killed him. Regardless of that, this means Sasuke has no access to his cursed seal form anymore. But I also have the feeling that he might not need that anymore in the future… (besides, cursed seal 2 made him look gay anyways :D )

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And lastly, Tobi unmasked! Well, partially unmasked… *shakes fist at Kishi and his cliffhangers* So what can we tell from what little we see of Tobi’s face? First, notice that there are wrinkles below his eyes. He is clearly older than what Tobi’s usual childish attitude suggested. He also looks to be older than Kakashi, which goes against the Obito theory because Obito and Kakashi are supposed to be about the same age (if Obito was still alive). But… you can also see what appears to be the strap of an eye patch that’s probably covering Tobi’s left eye. This evidence supports the Obito theory because we would expect Obito to wear an eye patch over that eye since he gave it to Kakashi. One more thing to mention is that, when Tobi took off his mask and reveaked the Sharingan of his right eye, Sasuke’s left eye’s Sharingan appears to instantly activate. I’m still not too sure what to make of this. Could it be that one of Tobi’s Sharingan abilities is to trigger the activation of another Uchiha’s Sharingan? Then again, it could just be Sasuke’s surprised reaction, but then why did only one of his Shaingans activate?

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From last week’s poll, it seems that around 63% of narutards believe Tobi is Madara while the other 37% think he is not. The translated text at the bottom of the last page refers to him as Tobi/Madara, so assuming the translation is correct, it seems that Tobi is really Madara Uchiha. But Kishi has a habit of throwing a curve ball every once in awhile, so all bets are still on until everything is finally revealed.

On a sad note, this chapter also confirms that Itachi IS DEAD. You might have been arrogant and cold, but you were one fine ninja Crying or Very sad. I guess we’ll learn more about him from Tobi/Madara in the next chapter. The burning questions that remain are: what did Tobi/Madara do with Itachi’s body and what does he have in plan for Sasuke?

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125 Comments »

  • J-sama said:

    1st!!!

  • J-sama said:

    Ha-ha!!! Haven’t been 1st in an awfully long time…
    Anyways, the chapter’s awsome! Nice analysis, as usual, Bob!
    Dmn, Zetsu’s multifunctional! He’s a S-rank ninja, can go anywhere he wants really quick, he’s a VCR and he can make tea and health products out of his own body! I wish I was like that…
    I think Sasuke’s Sharingan activatd itself as a defence mechanism.. He must’ve practised a lot during the 3 years, so that he would be able to activate it immidiately at any time, under any circumstance…
    BTW, the newest Shippuuden opening and ending suck…

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    2

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    This chapter rocks!!!Nice job as always Bob.I’m still curious about Sasuke’s eye.Why only one of his eyes had the sharingan.(Surgery theory. Mohahamohahamohaha) :) Tobi is at last unmasked.Thanks Kishi for this awesome chapter!Still why you haven’t showed us the whole Tobi’s face.Madaras plot????Interesting.Maybe my theory (Madara killed the clan and made Itachi lie) is correct.Or Madara is using Obito’s body.Who knows???? :) Congrats Bob! :)

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    The good news:Sasuke’s curse mark gone so…….that m*****f**** b****** Orochimaru is dead.And now we ll wait till we see Kabuto’s evil plans and his evil pathetic snake-like new look. :mrgreen:

  • Chaos said:

    WHAT??? How did i miss Tobi’s eye patch….i must’ve been drunk or something.
    This was one hell of a chapter….. i wish more of them were like this.

    AND well, in the case that Tobi activated Sasuke’s right Sharingan (well our right, his left)…..he would want Sasuke’s Sharingan… to replace his other Sharingan(or something like that)….which is not seen under his mask….. But this really messes things up…..who the hell is Tobi????….i still think it’s Madara….maybe in Obito’s body ( seeing that everyone wants someone else’ body for some reason i.e. Orochimaru or Pein)

  • Chaos said:

    Sephiroth … no, Oro is not dead….he’s trapped in a genjutsu …. and that theory …. of Madara being the mastermind behind the Uchiha massacre…..has been on the site….from way back.

  • DarkLurker_4thLegacy said:

    well almost, hey where my avatar?

  • DarkLurker_4thLegacy said:

    I missed the patch to Chaos, great one again Bob.I am lost about the on sharingan on suske glad that curse mark is gone though he’s gotten way powerful and doesn’t need it anymore.Now that he’s avenged what will happen now? A ninja that can be anywhere at the speed of light scary concept and Tobi has it. One more week :(

  • mart1 said:

    good spot ShikamaruIsThe Man and also I think Saskue only has enough chakra to activate one sharingan and if Tobi had taken Saskues eyes then he would have screamed/have scars.

  • nine@tailed@girl said:

    awsome blog bob great work keep it up. in the last pic why was the sharingan only activated in sasuke’s left eye :? beats me but i really don’t want anything to happen to sasuke. that speed of light jutsu madara can use is really scary but i wonder y he didn’t take naruto right then and there hmm must have other plans. i have a feeling that madara is using sasuke as bait to get to naruto but we’ll just have to wait and see, damnit another week of painful waiting DAMN U KISHI :evil: :cry: .

  • mart1 said:

    My internet (IE) is having truble everything looks funny

  • krazelicens said:

    great job bob. Another cliff hanger, yet again. but one that i can some what deal with. the long awaited wait to see tobi’s true identity has come but not even fraction of his face, just more of his eye. i cant wait till next till the next chapter comes out. i wish i had tobi’s space time ninjutsu so i can go to kishi and get the next chapter.

  • DarkLurker_4thLegacy said:

    get firfox dude it rocks…!

  • Nameless said:

    I still think “Tobi” is Shisui. In one of the episodes of Naruto, they referred to him as “Shisui of the mirage.” His techniques seem mirage-like don’t they? They also mentioned Itachi looking up to Shisui, meaning they probably spent a lot of time together thus, Shisui would know a lot about Itachi. The “truth” about him.

  • Nameless said:

    Actually.. the anime says Shunshin no Shisui. Shunshin meaning body flicker I believe. If he was known as that it must mean he’s extremely fast, faster than the normal body flicker which further convinces me that Tobi is Shisui. Shisui is the friend Itachi supposedly killed for anyone who forgot.

  • Nameless said:

    One last thing.. That thing on Tobi isn’t an eyepatch. It’s his eyebrow. Most Uchiha eyebrows look like that, Sasuke’s and Itachi’s eyebrows are drawn similarly.

  • mart1 said:

    shisui died and his name just ment that he was fast and could body flicker over long distances also how would Itachi have gotten MS? Kakashi stlye seams unlikely considering his control over it

  • mart1 said:

    I think saskue is a whole lot weaker without the CM

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Chaos you remember that Susano gone and a snake escaped.And then when Amateratsu’s flames burned a snake.Well, i think that if Orochimaru is alive he is out of Sasuke and he ‘ll look for Kabuto.(And i don’t think that Kabuto will be as helpful as he was.And i don’t think that he really liked Orochimaru) :)

  • Anbu_Quazzie said:

    Well J it’s either an auto defence, or my guess is that Tobi may have activated it. Not sure why, could be to show Sasuke his power to get him to listen carefully. But I do think it’s interesting how it just so happens to be the eye Tobi is supposedly missing that activates. but all in all I was likein this chapter and the next one should be good as well.

    As for Itachi, i ‘ve always had this belief deep inside me that Itahci never really was alive. i think he may have died a while back (Maybe sometime after/ during the massacre of the Uchiha caln). But it always seemd that way. partially because every Itachi that was ever even hit wound up being a clone and the real Itachi was ever hardly seen, if he was at all. but, just my thoughts…

  • mizuki said:

    heh finally!
    sasuke is finally off his drugs!
    and tobi is unmasked!
    how exciting… fufufu
    and by now everyone has noticed that tobi has two alternating personality types. i think this proves that madra is possesing obito as he has the childish personality(obito) and the cold, dark side(madra) however i still don’t know why tobi does not have EMS. i guess it will be explained another time.

  • mizuki said:

    still a rookie. bummer….

  • Anbu_Quazzie said:

    Well i don’t know if he doesn’t have it Mizuki. He just hasn’t shown it yet. But maybe he lost it while being in possession of another person’s body. That would make sense seeing as Obito didn’t have the EMS. But who knows if it’s even Obito’s body. Whoever it is, we know that person has been damaged severley somehow (which even leads me to believe it’s Obito’s body.

    But you’re right on the whole split personality thing Mizuki. And it’s interesting that Zetsu is like that as well. Could Zetsu be a sort of offspring of Tobi/Madara?

  • Ryeno said:

    If Shisui faked his death and helped kill off the uchiha clan it could answer why he knows so much about itachi, but then how did Itachi get MS.

    Itachi had crows feet under his eyes too, maybe it someone in sasukes actual family.

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    man that’s s0 annoying so far behind, by the way in the manga wat side of the rocks fall on obito’s body cos that would definitely confirm it. but yh i guess i gota accept that he is madara for now. but zetsu is really weird so he recorded the fight

  • Chaos said:

    i know that sephiroth….i know the snake escaped….but i think it’s a different story with Kabuto….

    Kabuto took Oro’s remains…(i.e.corpse) whilst it is Sasuke that suppressed Orochimaru inside of himself…..than Itachi came with Susanoo’s Bigass sword and sealed Oro in a genjutsu. Ithink the true Oro died when Sasuke’s cursed seal was removed…..then….I think Kabuto wanted to prove something by taking Orochimaru’s remains….to prove himself that he is a better ninja than his sensei(Orochimaru) …

    but whilst Orochimaru’s personality is taking control of Kabuto (or not … it depends on the fuiture of the storyline) it is not the real Orochimaru taking control of Kabuto … just a mere shell of the true Orochimaru

  • Chaos said:

    “Could Zetsu be a sort of offspring of Tobi/Madara?”
    Or is Zetsu an experiment of Tobi’s?
    Remember that everyone is a surgeon these days in the Naruverse :P ( Pein, Orochimaru,etc.)

  • Chaos said:

    “If Shisui faked his death and helped kill off the uchiha clan it could answer why he knows so much about itachi, but then how did Itachi get MS.”
    well, probably the same way Kakashi got his…
    But i don’t like this theory much…..about Shisui being alive & stuff

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    by the way thanks for clearing that up chaos. i just wanted to say even though zetsu recorded the fight maybe its a special way in which only tobi is able to retrieve it from zetsu because i dont see zetsu showing everyone the fight somehow, it must be something to do with the sharingan

  • Chaos said:

    no problem Grand_Hokage …. so if Zetsu has a built in VCR …. :P … i wonder do the naruto characters have internetz ?

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    oh yh true say that zetsu could be an experiment it would make a lot of sense. the way he’s always commanding him to do things and all that i think it would also mean

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    it would also mean that it could fit in nicely with the theory i came up with because if zetsu is an offspring or an experiment of tobi/madara. Then the recording that zetsu was able to do madara could only be retrieved or any1 who has sharingan. so it jind of works hand in hand, so zetsu is most likely 2 be that

  • guruku said:

    I don’t know how he does it… It’s simply amazing.

    Only BOB can do a Naruto Reference and have the following words be in the same Blog:

    “pulls a Houdini” (Compare and contrast)
    “Like Rats on Fire” (simile)
    “Emo-kid”
    “Yamato thinks he’s Moses” (metaphor)
    “drunken trucker”

    I mean… it’s a literary work of GENIUS!
    amazing….

  • jimmy shoes said:

    perhaps madara made itachi wait for sasuke in the secret hideout and then ultimately fight each other, i think madara wanted to know which one was stronger so then he could make the winner his student or something.

    OH and do you remember when itachi made reference to the uchiha clan in the underworld maybe madara wants to combine his power with sasuke and revive them…WHY you ask? well maybe to restore they power and numbers, we know that the uchiha clan was mixing blood (marrying non-uchiha) and therefore loosing the purity of the clans sharingan

  • jubuttee said:

    the wrikles could be from being crushed by the rock I mean the smashed face would look wierd.
    Sassuke’s one sharingan is weird though, and Madara has EMS.

  • jubuttee said:

    I got it! like Mizuki said madara is possesing Obito with the EMS. If he could posses the 9 tail fox, why not a human. Maybe Madara was to old and crippled. Why he picked Obito I don’t know. The eye patch thingy. NORMAL sharingan. Alternate personalities. It would make sense.

  • J-sama said:

    What bugs me are Itachi’s words from a couple of chapters back: “Uchiha Madara is only a shell of his former self…”
    Tobi’s jutsus are so powerful and I’m sure Itachi knew all about them… I’m also certain that Itachi doesn’t go underestimating his opponents, especially if his opponent is the immortal founder of the Uchiha clan…
    Considering that Itachi might’ve been injured before the fight even started (and people suggest it was by Madara/Tobi), leads me to think three things:
    1. Tobi and Madara are 2 different people, because Tobi is deffinately NOT a ‘former shell’ of anything…
    2. If Tobi is indeed Madara, then he probably has some major weakness just like Pein… Meaning that his jutsu was probably unbeatable before, but now it’s not, for some reason…
    3. If he does have a weakness, it’s probably something related to Sasuke or the Sharingan… Something amongst the lines of : “I need fresh Uchiha blood/eyes/body/energy to survive…

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    true say the more uchia blood running through. oyur veins the stronger your bloodline ability

  • Iruka said:

    I can’t wait to see the next chapter. Want to here about Itachi’s past. Didn’t Itachi say he will always be ther for Sasuke? Itachi said this as a way for Sasuke to use his brother to get stronger. He could of also new Madara wanted Sasuke , so he battled him trying toprotect Sasuke. I beleive Itachi and Madara battled before the fight. Itachi could of softened up Madara for Sasuke to fight. Itachi could have known that if Orochi is gone the curse would dissapear. Sasuke would be rid of it. Itachi doesn’t seem that bad now. I hope the next chapter shows this.Itachi could of begged Madara to spare Sasuke’s life in the Uchiha massacuer. I hope Itachi is reveiled as a good guy in the end

  • Lovething said:

    @ J-Sama I hope the “suck-factor” of the latest Shippuuden opening doesn’t mean we’re heading for lots of filler episodes. There’s lots of new characters I didn’t see in the manga…

    I’m hoping the anime weaves these into the Hidan/Kakuzu/Asuma arc.

  • Ryeno said:

    I’m hoping they make itachi look like more of a good guy too because they’re killing alot of popular characters.i want to see a good reason for itachi’s actions in the next chapter.

    Hey filler eps. aren’t always bad, they give you a look at other characters.Plus it gives them more time to make the real story more of what we expect. the whole finding sasuke was kinda boring to me it seemed like still frames and alot of silence.

  • DarkLurker_4thLegacy said:

    wow theories a swirling, whoever tobi turns out to be i think sasuke is in sum ways familiar with him. itachi was the one to send him to the uchiha hide out for him to find out about the secret of the clan. I don’t know all that was reveal to him there but he know’s also from itachi that after the massacre of the caln there were 3 uchiha left so he should know that tobi is involved with the slaying of the clan. how he responds to this will be interesting if he’ll try to kill tobi or what?

  • merlin said:

    What I want to know is how Madara could have lost to the 1st Hokage. We can be pretty sure that the first was substantially weaker than sarutobi, since an old Sarutobi shadow clone could fight fairly evenly with the first…so what is it about the first that let him beat Madara? My guess is it’s something about the ability to control the 9-tails, which means Yamato is going to be the only one who can beat Tobi\Madara…

  • merlin said:

    Oh and i guess I should add…I compared the 1st to Sarutobi because we’re told Madara gained the EMS and is immortal and virtually unstoppably strong. Since we know Sarutobi was really strong but neither immortal nor unstoppably strong (and didn’t even have some crazy bloodline ability to help him out), I’m left wondering how the 1st could have stopped Madara…

  • Siskin said:

    I think it’s clear that Sasuke is out to get Madara just as much as when he tried to kill Itachi.

    And interesting thing is that I think the tomoes in Sasuke’s one eyed sharingan are a bit weird… and they almost look like they are about to whrile and go MS.

    I think tobi might paint a picture of Itachi being evil and trying to destroy him too and so Sasuke becomes Tobi’s apprentice in search of Madara… perhaps?

    Someone is lying… either it’s Itachi which I doubt or it’s Tobi even though nothing has been said yet.

    The eye on sasuke that went Sharingan was the eye Itachi dripped blood in… coincidence? hmm… noo… I realize Sasuke didn’t wake up with the sharingan on but I think that eye will be stuck with the sharingan eye like Kakashi and Itachi’s because of the introduction of a different blood.

  • mart1 said:

    tobi can get info from zetsu because he has the MS and can make people relive events like Itachi, Also to Grand Hokage: Saying shishu could be Madra is like saying spongebob could be one of the seven swordsmen of the mist.

  • krazelicens said:

    i dont know if its been said, but if you look at tobi, it looks like he has a cap on now and you cant see his hair. just thought i put that out there.

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    Cool we finally see Tobi’s face to bad about Sasuke losing his curse mark thou.

  • Bob (author) said:

    “Saying shishu could be Madra is like saying spongebob could be one of the seven swordsmen of the mist.”

    Oh yeah?
    http://www.narutohurricane.com/narutoblog/wp-content/gallery/comicscomedy/spongebob-7swords.jpg

    Don’t think Spongebob is badass enough?
    http://www.narutohurricane.com/narutoblog/wp-content/gallery/comicscomedy/spongebob-fu.jpg

  • Ilooklikegaara47 said:

    Siskin , I think your right, the blood of itachi gave sasuke ms and thats why it won’t go away.

  • Ilooklikegaara47 said:

    I know about the supposed killing of shishu, but I didn’t know he was strong and unbelievably fast

  • krazelicens said:

    HAHA, those are great pictures Bob.

    The whole blood in the eye keeps getting me confused. If it just takes your brother’s blood getting in your eye to get MS, then it still doesn’t help explain why Kakashi has the MS. Kishi needs to do something explaining what Kakashi was doing in that 2 year time gap, explaining how the hell he got MS.

  • krazelicens said:

    and for Sasuke to get EMS, do you think Tobi kept the body of Itachi so once Sasuke does get MS, he could get EMS? Also, what if and EMS user took the eyes of another EMS use, (refering to a battle between Sasuke and Madara), could they get a super EMS?

  • NSS7 said:

    i thought it was funny that naruto start cursing but it already proves that madara is tobi because he uses those black flames only if you had the MS so it cant be obito

  • krazelicens said:

    he never used the black flames, the fire was from Itachi when he used his ameratsu

  • ssj sasuke said:

    This was a chapter the series needed. We’ve been so battle-struck, and have had so many unanswered questions, this somewhat “calmer” chapter sets a change in mood that we needed. I am excited for the answers Tobi will reveal next chapter, “that is if kishimoto doesn’t like change the scene to team hebi or the konoha ninja and we don’t even get to see what Tobi tells him yet.”

    I am not sure what to make of only the one eye going Sharingan. It might be because, he knows there is only one other Uchiha left, whom he heard from Itachi is Madara, and he already told Itachi that that was his next target. When he saw Tobi’s sharingan, he must have immediately thought it was Madara, and out of anger/excitement/fear, his sharingan activated, but might not have had enough chakra to fully activate it, or activate them both. That weird feeling might have also been the reason for the weird shaped tomoes as somebody projected before.

    And I have to say this, I TOLD YOU SO about the cursed seal not being there anymore from back in chapter 396. I am glad it is confirmed, but I was pretty sure about it before. And it is relieving that Orochimaru can not interfere with him anymore, it is in some ways the first step of Sasuke’s metamorphosis from that snake/evil lifestyle and using foreign means to obtain power, to that “hawk” that tobi talked about.

    I am a little worried for him as well, because he might fall under Tobi’s influence as Itachi did. I am not sure what Tobi is going to do to him, but his words appear sincere enough that he is not there to hurt him. I believe for the time being, he will not harm Sasuke, and might even train him somewhat if he can convince him that he is a friend not foe. Maybe he can teach Sasuke how to transcend his Sharingan.

    And by the way, great blog and analysis Bob.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    393*

  • mart1 said:

    that was hilarious bob and ya the calmer chapter was neccesary

  • Ryeno said:

    yeah it was a pretty calm ch. except for the naruto cursing part.I want to see naruto fight Aloe Vera.

    and I know this is alil off topic but, Isn’t the byakugan supposed to be more powerful than the sharingan?I want to see what the byakugan really can do. I hope kishi plans on making a Sharingan vs. Byakugan battle really soon. We need alil more Pain in our life too.

  • Sharingan Master said:

    i feel that its really obito cuz of the one eye n stuff. i really didnt notice that the cursed seal was gone good eyes whoever found it.

    another is when sasukes eye activated it was a defensive mechanism like j-sama said

    another is that when tobi had the age line on his face that doesnt mean hes older than kakashi. if u look at itachi he has it n he was 21 when he died. it seems to b an Uchiha thing so the thought of tobi being obito is still in affect.

  • sobojo_uchiha said:

    hey uh…this is my first post for using this site so hey!

    first off, i think it’s plausible that tobi was trained or came into contact with madara uchiha, but i am pretty positive that tobi is NOT the madara uchiha of legend. there are no physical similarities, the eye patch alludes to one of his missing eyes, and to our knowledge madara never lost an eye. you could speculate that he lost it in combat with shodaime, but if the uchiha custom of taking the eyes that itachi said IS indeed true, then that would be infinitely more applicable than losing it in battle. no, most signs point to obito…and maybe the side effect of his devastating jutsu is rapid aging. although there is a possibility that kishi’s curve ball could be madara’s younger brother, or even itachi’s best friend that he apparently murdered for his mangekyou sharingon. he could have been in the scheme the entire time.

    in regards to sasuke’s sharingon…i’m not sure why it activated, but i have a hunch that his left eye is now the eternal sharingon, due to the rain washing itachi’s blood (that he wiped from his eyes mind you) into his LEFT eye. i also have a hunch that tobi wants this eye to complete his set, and may have even had something to do with Itachi’s death, seeing as he may not have been able to defeat him himself with just one eye.

    as for itachi’s body…he will be the container for madara uchiha or sobojo himself. i wouldn’t even be surprised if he even agreed to sacrifice his body for the cause.

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    also didnt sasuke’s opposite eye bring up the sharingan that is very weird. maybe there is some sort of connection we’ll just have to wait and see i suppose and im still sticking to the theory i brought up before

  • sobojo_uchiha said:

    also…i got a little curious as to the secrets of the uchiha clan, the mangekyou sharingon, and the eternal sharingon. i’ve seen a bunch of Tengu references throughout the manga, and Itachi’s Susano technique bore a Tengu mask when it had it’s armor on and so i got curious. this is what i found:

    Susano is the Shinto god of the sea and of storms. He is the brother of Amaterasu, and of Tsukuyomi. ALL THREE WERE SPAWNED from Izanagi, WHEN HE WASHED HIS FACE CLEAN OF the POLLUTANTS of Yomi, the underworld. Amaterasu was born when Izanagi washed out his LEFT eye, Tsukuyomi was born from the washing of the RIGHT eye, and Susano from the washing of the nose.

    i don’t think the absence of Sasuke’s cursed seal is a coincidence.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    Those are really good theories sobojo. That is very plausible that his left eye is eternal sharingan, but (and this applies to tobi’s eye as well,) the EMS looks like the hosts MS as displayed by madara in chapter 386. however it might be able to revert. And i think it would royally suck for Sasuke to always only have one EMS, even if it would help him, it would just suck for him to never have the full thing.

    Also, after reading chapter 386 again, and noticing the familiar lines under Madara’s eyes, then looking at tobi, they both appear to have a similar wrinkle under the eye, and tobi just has another one. Maybe as a sign of aging, or battle, or a side effect of EMS. Either way, i am now more swayed toward Tobi being Madara.

  • krazelicens said:

    if Susano, Amaterasu, and Tsukuyomi were all techniques of the MS and came from Izanagi, could that mean Izanagi is another one of MS’s techniques, and maybe the strongest?

  • ssj sasuke said:

    Maybe it is the secret technique only obtainable from EMS

  • mart1 said:

    I think Tobis space/time jutsu is Izanagi and remember kakashi’s MS sharingan did a technique that wasn’t anyone of Itachis three so Tobi’s technique is probaly a more advanced form of kakashi’s

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    no i think its the ability to control the nine tailed foxs it would actually make the most sense beacuse the Izanagi is meant to be the strongest technique of all three, (im assuming) so what could be more poweful than that really.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    yes but, sasuke has already displayed the ability to control the kyuubi to some degree without the MS or EMS, while he was with Naruto in his head

  • sobojo_uchiha said:

    i think the kyuubi just respects or fears the sharingan because the uchiha blood is probably demon blood. the ‘konoha tengu’ is an actual japanese mythical creature that was known to carry staffs or flutes made to exercise demons. and yes i understand the irony of a demon exercising another demon but that’s just how i understand it. MY only question is how did the other 8 tailed demons come into play if madara summoned or asked the kyuubi for help. there are a lot of unanswered questions still but i know tobi needs naruto’s kyuubi chakra and sasuke’s strength for whatever he’s planning.

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    thats true he was only able to surpress it though, not actually control the kyuubi, so im still going to stick with my theory, also wat will sauke gai when he is able to use MS it seems that if you get it you get like some reaally cool powers

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    Also may i add because the sharingan is able to copy things and see into people’s mind and things like that. it further supports my theory on that zetsu must be a surbodinate to tobi or some sort of experiment of his. therefore that is why he may be able to get this so called recording from zetsu’s head i think. but then again its just a theory

  • Ryeno said:

    the ‘konoha tengu’ is an actual japanese mythical creature that was known to carry staffs or flutes made to exercise demons. SoBoJo It’s funny that you say that because we had a post about the manga covers showing the future. sasuke was playing a flute in one of the covers.

    The lines under madara eyes, i think it just an uchiha trait because itachi and his father had them.

  • punk2 said:

    OK that was a good chapter. Was Naruto crying? :’(

  • mart1 said:

    it’s not just a theory zetsu is his subbordinate and also in the “clues from the past” blog saskue is playing a flute in one of the pictures mabey its a tengu reference

  • mart1 said:

    oh I didn’t see your post Ryeno

  • DanC1110 said:

    I find it interesting that Itachi and Madara have similar taste in nail polish (page 6)

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    great job Bob :D (like you do all the time)
    But i get no connection to Tobi and Madara .. I only get connection to tobi and obito
    1. Tobi doesnt have EMS.
    2. he have a eye patch.
    3. He got same hair as obito
    4. and he got same sharingan as kakashi.

    but now i got a connection to Madara in my head
    he maybe just have a eye patch so hide his EMS on his left eye ? .. its like zetsu , half side is madara and the other is obito or just a retarded living haha .. ^^

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    and naruto , whats up with him? .. i suggests that he should go and train so he can have a chance against the akatsukis , because now when its just the 9th eye left of their dragon seal statue, they will be after him so GO GOGOGOGOGOG get grown up and get more powerful naruto ffs! sorry for the F-words haha :P

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    I know that ztsu is his surbordinate, that just means someone below you really but yeah im talking about zetsu could’ve been an experiment of madara you never really know.

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    I just posted a comment it didnt even come up it was so long how annoying is that

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    ok , here i have the evidence for Madara not losing to the 1th or maybe he did after this but , EMS is fucking overpowerd!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6EbdJ2nXzY

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    and one more thing , say hello to madaras little brother , check this theory !!! IT MIGHT BE TRUE; because every clue is kinda right ^^

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoJNGsdWubk&feature=related

  • white shinobi said:

    the ficht against tyhe hokage’s madara activated his ems but madara can’t turn his ems of so i think it’s a fake

  • white shinobi said:

    and abaut the other link i agree with that one eye thing but i don’t agree on the obito is madara’s brother because:
    1 madara is over 100 years old
    2 obito gave his eye to kakashi in kakashi gaiden

  • xGutsAndGloryx said:

    I think its Madara has taken over Obito’s Body. I think now that Naruto has seen how much Sasuke has progressed and has fought with several Akatuski Members. He will focus more on training. Naruto with this new training method Kakashi taught him should progress a long ways in a short period of time.

  • sobojo_uchiha said:

    in the fight between the first and madara keep in mind that Shodaime had a nasty darkness jutsu (that he used against the 3rd in the orochimaru fight) that could be a great counter against madara’s eye technique’s along with his suiton jutsu…though i have a hard time believing the power of the sharingon could be blinded by anything other than itself. i think the way kishi would have had it go down would be very similar to sasuke’s and naruto’s fight in the same area…because the 1st survived the battle and madara definitely isn’t completely dead one way or another.

    thinking about it…the 1st’s powers that he could use on the kyuubi’s chakra is actually a kind of sealing technique that suppresses an opponents’ chakra. maybe it’s possible that he could seal away part of madara’s power…and since madara controlled the kyuubi maybe that’s how the 1st can suppress it. eh, just a thought.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    lol white shinobi, it didnt mean that obito was madaras brother :P ..
    one thing about naruto , he just have the a jutsu that is powerful enough to kill a akatsuki , but he’s not so smart to get away from one attack of a akatsuki member , to be like sasuke , he needs to get faster, and smarter .. and he just have ONE powerful jutsu , i think kakashi and yamato should learn him some more jutsus hehe

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    maybe tobi is the guy from the chuunin exams? you know when naruto and the gang is going to do like math ? a writing test .. the guy who own that test , he got a eye patch on his left eye dont he ? .. and that guys right side looks like tobis right side hehe .. but thats just bullshit , what the fuck am i talking about ? :P

  • Sorinax said:

    about the fight between madara and shodaime. i don’t think thatthat is real. i think some fan of madara just sketched up some drawings. that doesn’t proofs anything.
    that drawing wasn’t made by kishi to take it for real.
    it isn’t even a good drawing.

  • Siskin said:

    Sojobo,
    Welcome, and i like your reasoning behing Tobi being Obito, Shisui or perhaps Madara’s brother.

    I’m really not sure what to make of it. All I know is that Sasuke is going to kill Madara for sure.

    So… Tobi will tell Sasuke a story about how evil itachi was on his quest for power and how he was going to use Sasuke. Of course he isn’t going to tell him what really happened unless he wants to fight half dead Sasuke. And if Tobi was so powerful and wanted another set of eyes he would have taken Itachi’s….

    I’m babling. The only thing that is apparent is that from the knowing 10 fingers of Akatsuki there are only about half that are aware of what is really going on (pein, konan, sasori, itachi, Kakuzu, Tobi/Madara, zetsu and Orochimaru?). Thus, Akatsuki made a plan that after Orochimaru left only a few people would know the real leader in order to protect Madara.

    OHOH… wait… did anyone notice the tails to Sasuke’s one eyed sharingan were slightly elongated? a page or so before that showed Kakashi going MS and the processes for almost no reason except it showed how searious he was I guess. But I think that could have a link to Sasuke’s eye going MS because why else show that?

  • KakashiDaSixKage said:

    This chapter was awesome. I’m lovin my weekly diet of cliffhangers. Damn it I want more. SHOW ME THE MONEY SHOT. I would of thought Shino would of bugged Tobi for sure. Damn another fail mission for Naruto and the crew. LOL Team Hebi HELP Naruto find Sasuke

  • mart1 said:

    Snorinax is right, but its interesting fan fiction

  • Grand_Hokage said:

    yeah i like that theory of team hebi heping naruto to find sasuke, but i think there may be a chance that sasuke could return to the village himself

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    I wonder how will Sasuke do without his curse mark forms

  • ssj sasuke said:

    I think if Sasuke has some sort of progressed sharingan now, whether it be in only the left or both, it is Kishi’s way of Sasuke maintaining or even advancing in power, and still be rid of that curse mark.

    Almost as a balancing out if you will. And of course, if his sharingan is now different, he will eventually train it and become awesomely powerful.

    The only think I am pondering, is what type of sharingan it might be now. People have suggested that because of Itachi’s blood, Sasuke has EMS, but is that possible without first obtaining the MS. I don’t know, but I think it is more likely something else.

    It is true that Tobi could have triggered Sasuke’s left eye to change, but I think its more likely to be a natural reaction.

    And because we only saw his eye for an instant, rather than a clip of it, like it may be in an anime, what we saw might have been one instant/clip of the transformation process to some other kind of eye pattern. Much like when Itachi’s tomoes elongated then meshed together to become the MS eye pattern.

    I don’t think Sasuke has the standard MS, that much is sure, because Kishi would never have Sasuke going blind, and his brother is dead, so that would mean no EMS. So if in fact his (possibly) new eye is a Mangekyou, it will be EMS.

  • FirelordSokka said:

    I’m really debating about having the new Zetsu System installed in my car. My ride be pimpin’ then. lol.

    One thing Bob said that stands out at me … why was Sasuke’s left eye the only one activated with Sharingan? Can the eyes be controlled individually? Does each eye posses a certain power? But when combined become even greater?

    think … think … think …

  • DarkLurker_4thLegacy said:

    thats something we are all pondering sokka.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    A few concerns I’d like to address in addition to my last comment:

    First, I now believe one of the points (although there will probably be another one later) for Kishi illustrating Kakashi’s transformation to the MS, in two slides, one of them showing how the tomoes stretch to mesh into the MS pattern. This (I believe) is a reminder, so when we saw the instant from Sasuke’s left sharingan with the stretched tomoe tales, it would click.

    Also, on page 9, and this might be of no significance, but there are words at the beginning of the page that say “So this is Amaterasu… I’ve never seen it before,” but in contrast to the rest of the dialogue, it is not in a dialogue bubble, and is in black font, like when somebody has a thought in their head. The last person to talk on page 8 is Naruto, but he has seen it before, and even if he hasn’t he isn’t smart enough for it to click for him that it was Amaterasu so fast.

    I think that whoever thought this was with, or from the perspective of the Konoha group. Most likely it was Kakashi, but what if it was Tobi, Zetsu, or somebody else that is observing, or following the group. I know its farfetched, and somewhat a stretch, but it is a possibility.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    yeah , if itachi is dead, sasuke have MS .. :P

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    oh wait , dont care about that last comment , .. know i got it , i think Sasuke got MS when he first beated naruto , Sasuke maybe thought he died, and that feelings gave him MS .. but then again naruto showed up again, but eh i dont know .. but what happens if a uhicha kill his brother? your eyes must upgrade or something :P

  • KWEST28 said:

    I just gotta acouple questions to throw out there.

    1) If pain is capable of giving six of his body the “Rinnegan” I’m under the impression “Mandara Uchiha” might also have that ability or just have Pein cast a jutsu of somewhat.

    2) If Madara took his brothers eye would he inherited his brothers personalities also. That may explain why it seems he has two sides to him.

    3) I don’t know about yah but the leader of Anbu Root Danzou looks like tobi somewhat right. He hides in the shadow’s and very secretive, I don’t know about yah but thats danzou formerly known as Mandara uchiha…

    Your guests are better than minds…

  • mart1 said:

    To Sokka- yes, close one eye and foucus on a distant object or close object one eye is better at each but combined they do both

  • mizuki said:

    well to kwest, think of orochimaru. when he used his body possesion techneqe, did he gain the personality of the body he possesed? i think he only gained the physique. and about sasuke getting the ms, that is kind of an odd guess. i mean the whole point of sasuke gaining power in the first place is so that he can get stronger then itachi differently then he did, aka the MS. it would be dumb if sasuke got the ms. once again, the requirements to get the Ms is to kill your closest friend. now itachi isnt sasuke’s closest friend now is he? he’d only get MS if he killed naruto, which we know he did not.

  • hyuuga_neji said:

    alright great job bob! sick ass chapter. cliffhanger cant wait til friday!

    got a couple of questions:
    if indeed tobi is obito why didnt obito say anything to kakashi during his fight with the konoha ninja?
    why didnt tobi reconize kakashi sharingan?

    just a question that ive been pondering about!

    kishi you have quite the gift.

  • NarutoElitNin said:

    With this manga chapter a new big chapter in the naruto world will start whit new misterys new jutsus

  • KakashiDaSixKage said:

    Hyuuga I think why Tobi didn’t show no emotion to Kakashi, is because he didn’t want to show him is true identity. Atleast not to him. Tobi like playing games and he know how Kakashi acts. Kakashi is going to beat his brain in trying to figure out who this sharingan user is. Kishi going to drop another Obito/Kakashi flashback on us.

  • Chaos said:

    @ Hyuuga_Neji….why would( if Tobi is Obito….which i have serious trouble believing) Tobi show his emotions to Kakashi?

    I doubt that after 15 years or how many has passed since Obito was crushed by those boulders in the Kakashi & Obito arc….Obito is just gonna say: ” Oh hey Kakashi, how ya’ doing? How’s the family? What have you been doing with my Sharingan lately?”

    And…..the actual theory was that Madara possessed Obito’s body(whom is clinically dead…i suppose…) …

    so your qustion actually was….Why would Madara show any emotions to Kakashi…..? and Madara and Kakashi never actually met in person…..so no emotions there…

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    I really hope that Naruto learns the “Thunder God Teleportation” Jutsu that the 4th got called the “YEllow Flash” because. And I hope that we get to see MA and PA Toad make their way to Tsunadi, that will be a really intense conversation.

  • NarutoElitNin said:

    isnt the server problem finished yet i see that it still isnt working

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    man im finally back,ive been having server problem issues for a while now.what was the cause? ill have to read over the comments later.but has anyone seen any spoilers yet? the one i saw it said it was confirmed.and that TOM was talking about how good itachi was.im wondering if this is true or is he just playing mind games?. i know this question makes me sound like a newbie.but how does everyone know the name of the 4th hokages jutsu? he used it against the rock ninja to rescue kakashi,and agaist other rock nin when the konoha nin threw the kunai? so how do we know the name? im just curious. thanks

  • waynebradyili said:

    Great summ. Bob. I just can’t understand why there are people who are saying they KNOW what is going to happen with the manga, but no one will truly know until the next chapter is published, right?
    Have there been any theories on what Akatsuki is trying to do with the tailed beasts?

  • waynebradyili said:

    Oh, and the theory that Shisui could be Tobi is entirely farfetched. One thing gets in the way of him being Tobi…..the fact that Itachi has/had MS b/c he KILLED Shisui.

  • mart1 said:

    Pein stated that they would form an ultimate technique that anyone could use and thus cause massive destruction leading to eventual peace among the survivors

  • mart1 said:

    This could just be company propoganda though, Also the Bijju (tailed beast) would probably be used only to supply the chakra. Some people on this site theorized that the tailed beast would be sealed in loyal akatsuki members however there are 10 rings/fingers for the statue they use and only nine bijju. I think that the beast will be used to summon a live version of their statue

  • jkjensen said:

    I’m somewhat convinced that Tobi is Uchiha Madara’s brother. What else would you make of the fact that every image of Uchiha Madara with EMS only show his left eye? When Madara took out his brother’s eye, what was shown was Madara taking out his brother’s left eye. I think it was somehow implied in the manga that EMS couldn’t be turned off, and if you could, why would you if you have mastered it well enough like madara did to conveniently keep it on 24/7?

    Now we all know the fact that Tobi, as shown, only has regular shringan (in other words, he could turn off MS) in his RIGHT eye, the eye remaining in Uchiha Madara’s brother. Somebody came up with a theory of how Tobi really came about to be the leader/member of akatsuki and I will detail it here along with my own theories. We were told in the manga that Zetsu somewhat takes care or whatever of Tobi(sorry I dont know how to put it). I also believe Grand Hokage’s theory of Zetsu being an experiment of Tobi, maybe just maybe, MADARA is IN ZETSU.

    I believe that b4 sasori’s death, he really wasn’t a member of akatsuki although he might already be controlling things at the background with AT MOST three people (Zetsu and Pein, and maybe That paper girl; BUT NOT ITACHI)I will go into why Itachi really doesn’t know the real Tobi later.

    Tobi only became a formal member of akatsuki when he took sasori’s ring. When Tobi was with Pein after Deidara died, his exact words were “My power, Uchiha Madara’s power” (which I believe we should interpret along the lines of: Madara took my eye, my power, which gave him his EMS)
    It was at this time that he showed he’s true power that Pein maybe like yielded to him or not, and the same time that Itachi thought Tobi was Madara because of some similarities.

    Itachi claims he worked under MAdara, and he mentioned that Tobi (who he thought was really Madara) was a shadow of his former self. But this is only because Tobi isn’t Madara.

    Where Madara is, what happened to him, I don’t really know.

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    Well 2morrow we will finally see just who Tobi is

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Spoilers(Images)

    http://saiyanisland.com/397/?
    a=view&id=&image=6

    Sasuke got Mangenkyu and performed amateratsu on Tobi.

    http://saiyanisland.com/397/?a=view&id=&image=7

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    It has another photos but i believe that they are the best.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    New confirmed spoilers in the forum, just posted them. Check it out.

  • shatterstar said:

    madara nids him as his new body! just like orochimaru wanted! if madara really posse EMS its very easy for him to copy orochimaru’s soul transfer jutsu! as we know tobi is amdara! but his body looks like obito it seems he had transfered his soult to obito’s body!

    …wats out for episode 397 where itachi is a real hero!

  • shatterstar said:

    …by the way uchija itachi transferred all his eye techniques on his little brother before he died! remember itachi intentionally touch sasuke’s forhead before he fall dead! he also had putted a jutsu to activate amaterasu when he sees madara!

  • mizuki said:

    wow… sasuke has ms! i was completely wrong…
    this is awesome.

  • mizuki said:

    but.. how did he transfer it by just touching his forehead?

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