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Naruto Manga Chapter 392 – Orochimaru’s 15 seconds of fame

8 March 2008 379 Comments


Post Author: Bob

Wow, quite a few surprises in this chapter, most of all Orochimaru’s sudden return. Even though it lasted less than a minute, we at least know the creepy snake dude was still thriving inside Sasuke… eww that sounds gross. No wonder Sasuke’s so moody all the time, not only does he have to put on black lipstick just to power up to cursed seal 2, he also needs to keep a naked pale-skinned man inside him all the time, that would make anybody grouchy I guess, LOL.

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Before we start going through the highlights of this chapter, first take a look at the cover for it. That’s right, it’s Tobi (or Madara) and the background looks very much like a street you’d find in Konoha. I think Kishi might be foreshadowing something with this picture. My interpretation is that it’s implying that Tobi/Madara intends to bring the upcoming battles to Konoha itself. This would bring Tsunade into the fight and then we would have had all three Sanins involved in the Akatsuki story arc. But on the other hand, it could just be trying to show a link between Madara or Tobi to Konoha.

Okay, back to the battle itself. Susanoo is a third ability which was awoken when Itachi received his Mangekyou Sharingan (this proves that Mangekyou abilities aren‘t limited to one for each eye). This one is a summon, and it’s helluva powerful. The skeletal frame which first appeared now begins to flesh out and armour materializes out of mystical flames. The final product is a warrior, draped in flames and with multiple arms. He is wielding three objects, a shield, a sword and a gourd.

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Sasuke is totally screwed at this point. The thunderclouds have already cleared and he has no chakra left to generate another attack. His left eye then suddenly transforms into Orochimaru’s snake-like pupils and the familiar voice of the palely snake dude calls out to him. Naruto had it easy, all he needed to do is talk with a giant fox to lend him more power. Sasuke, on the other hand, has to get it from a perverted boy-lover who likes showing off his snake.

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Sasuke is at his limit and can no longer hold Orochimaru back. Instead of his demonic wing, the heads of several white snakes emerge out from his back and quickly grow into a massive creature. Itachi recognizes it as Orochimaru’s hydra technique – a creature with eight snake heads and covered in spiky scales. Whether this is evidence of Orochimaru’s link with the Eight-Tails bijuu, I don’t know, but you should read up on Yamata no Orochi in this post about the tailed beasts by J-sama and scrubby.

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The snakes charge at Itachi and his Susanoo, but they are easily sliced and diced into snake meat. I heard that hydras were supposed to grow two more heads when one is cut off, but the only head that is emerges is Orochimaru’s slime-covered noggin. This was a really gross but funny scene really. The snake barfs out Orchimaru’s half naked body and then Orochimaru himself vomits out his Kusangi sword. Even Zetsu comments that all this regurgitation is just too disgusting.

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Orochimaru is confident that he can now just take over Sasuke’s body and easily defeat Itachi. But Itachi completely ignores his ramblings and shoves Susanoo’s sword through his chest. Orochimaru tells Itachi that a little cut like this won’t stop him, but then realizes that the sword is more than it appears. The sword is called the sword of Totsuka or Sakegari‘s Katana, a spirit blade that has no physical form. It has the ability to seal anyone it cuts and place him into an eternal genjutsu. It is the ultimate counter to the Kusanagi sword and that is why Orochimaru had been searching for it all his life, never realizing Itachi was the one who possessed it.

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The remains or Orochimaru and his hydra are sucked into Susanoo’s gourd and sealed away. Sasuke returns to his normal form, stripped of even his cursed seal level 2 form; it doesn’t appear he has anymore tricks left. Itachi tells Sasuke that it is over.

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  • the 2nd hokage said:

    1st….

  • the 2nd hokage said:

    Yes im genin i think we need to clear the rumor up that orochimaru is a jinchiriki

  • the 2nd hokage said:

    So that means the same thing that is happening to sasuke is happening to kabuto…

  • sharigan master said:

    im number 3

  • sharigan master said:

    it looks like itatchi may have won unless one of the members of konoha appear

  • Anbu_Quazzie said:

    Haha, Bob I like the name “15 seconds of fame”. That’s pretty much it I mean Orochimaru died (maybe) as soon as he came out.

    Actually I’m thinkin he’ll make yet another apperance if not in this battle, then through Kabuto the same way he did from Sasuke.

  • Tensai-teki said:

    whoa im surprised that i got here so early.im only the 7th comment.this chapter is really interesting.it reminds me of a movie when you know the good guy(sasuke) will win in the end but the tables are constantly going back and forth with the villian(itachi).i know OR atleast hope(after jiraiyas death) that the good guy will win.most people wish that it will hurry and come to and end.as long as i have a good idea of who will win,i dont care how long as it takes.as long as the storyline progresses and i see new jutsu,im happy.maybe… just maybe the number one hyper active nuckle head ninja(naruto)will come save the day.”looks like i came just in time”

  • Tensai-teki said:

    OMG OMG OMG IM A CHUNIN… FINALLY.thanks bob and team shanarro

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    Funny title and I am wondering if Oro is in Sasuke then what is in Kabuto? Or maybe he has been split into two parts.

  • FirelordSokka said:

    I think Sasuke held Orochimaru’s essence or spirit, and Kabuto is “growing” Orochimaru’s physical form. Though what I wonder … being that Kabuto has Orochimaru’s physical form, would he be able to use his powers as well?

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    And one more thing did Sasuke turn into oro or just the snake?

  • ssj sasuke said:

    this chapter seems to leave sasuke in distress, but personally, i think that this chapter might have played out the only way it could for sasuke to prevail in the end. This whole time, kishimoto has followed ancient asian mythology, like with the origins of the names jaraiya, tsunade, amaterasu, and many other things. well the legend goes that susano defeats and kills the 8 headed snake orochi. up until now, i believed sasuke was suppose to represent that orochi because he absorbed orochimaru. but now, kishimoto still follows the myth, while leaving sasuke alive and rid of orochimaru, so even though sasuke appears to be in distress, this chapter might have been his salvation.
    another thought i had was about tobi being on the cover. the last time we heard tobi talking, besides for his current fight with the kanoha ninja, he was talking about sasuke’s fight with diedara, and how the sharingan is stronger in him than itachi. maybe this is some kind of foreshadowing… just a thought

  • Anbu_Quazzie said:

    I’ve been haveing some thoughts about how this battle could tie into what Kishi said is going to happen to Kakashi. I’m thinkin that Sasuke will lose this battle. He may lose but for some odd reason he only takes one eye (maybe what happened to Obito will happen to Sasuke in that only half his body is there, seemingly like the other half is dead). kakashi and team will eventually find Sasuke and Kakashi will indeed give Sasuke his sharingan hoping that it will ehlp Sasuke acheive the EMS, in hope in defeating a bigger enemy (most likely Madara). Well, either that or Sasuke just wins the fight, but the odds seem to be exactly on the opposite side of Sasuke.

    I know, it’s kind of a ramdom though, but it came to me so why not share it…

  • Anbu_Quazzie said:

    I know this is completely off topic but the other thing I wanted to comment on is that Tobi’s name is noticably similar to the third’s name, saruTOBI. Coincidence?….hmmm, just something to think about…

  • Nandou said:

    Hilarious as always bob
    Great chapter, this is getting really exciting

  • Sharingansasuke said:

    i luv the name 15 seconds of fame & wat waz tht sword tht itachi’s susanoo had it waz awesum its affects were so cool

  • tiat872 said:

    Always look forward to your comments Bob and appreciate the comedy. I never saw it coming ie. orochimaru’s ressurection though brief :) I must add though that Orochimaru was quite perceptive in that he knew Itachi’s ability and that he would prove to be quite an opponent for sasuke so when sasuke consumed him his return was imminent. Now we know that Orochimaru is not dead I wish there was a way for ‘pervy sage’ to be resurrected as well :) what can i say I luv pervy sage. I tell you one thing you never know whats going to happen next and i luv it!!!!

  • eighthHokage said:

    Funny blog,as always,Bob.Again “great” Orochimaru is complete powerless against Itachi(Its so said to see what Kishi do with legendary sannin).It seems that we will never get rid of orochimaru.He is so annoing.And that pic with him came out from snake mouth was a really gross but funny as well.My question is WHY Itachi seal Orochi in some kind of bottle if he isnt jinchiriki? Only to place him into an eternal genjutsu-I dont think so.
    Nice and quite surprising chapter.Kishi is a genius and we cant foresee what will happen in next chapter but what is almost surely thing-this fight will not end in next ch.

  • Iruka said:

    What is going to happen to Sasuke?He no longer has any chakra, or orichi hiding in him. Will Itachi snatch sasuke’s eyes or is there some hidden agenda for Sasuke by Madara. Anouther question can Sasuke activate his cursed seal again since orichi in in eternal gejutsu. Where will Kubuto fit into this? So many unanswered questions. When will this fight end? t

  • Wadadli said:

    i feel rather sorry for orochimaru, i really hope this fight ends soon and i just wanna see narutos reaction to when he finds out jiraiya is dead and he learns who his father is, good job bob , very humorous as well

  • ssj sasuke said:

    a few other things ive been pondering, one, maybe orochimaru was the 8 tailed demon, and this whole fight was itachi’s way to obtain it from sasuke. if so, he probably planned it when he heard sasuke beat orochimaru. or maybe itachi is actually good, explaining his conversation with naruto in the woods. maybe asking him to step off for a little while he fights sasuke, and maybe he promised that he would convince sasuke to return to kanoha. once again, im just thinking out loud here

  • FirelordSokka said:

    I like one of Anbu_Quazzie’s theories; about Kakashi giving his eye to Sasuke. It seems very plausible and one that I wouldn’t totally dismiss.

    I don’t believe that Orochimaru is a bijuu or the fabled eight tail demon. I believe he’s just a pest. lol. While the eight tail demon is a snake, I think that if Akatsuki hasn’t already gotten it, I think Kabuto will somehow end up with it.

  • tiat872 said:

    It seems sasuke has run out of juice. The akatsuki members are quite formidable and I always thought the itachiv.sasuke battle would lean towards itachi. The theme of Naruto has always been about friendship and bonds. I am of the opinion that sasuke will lose this battle and recognize that he cannot defeat madara and itachi on his own and he needs his allies of konoha. Mind you I dont know the true potential of his posse Hebi but then you can never tell the turn this story will take

  • johnson said:

    i just want this fight too end very soon. in the end, sasuke will win.

  • nine@tailed@girl said:

    thanks bob, great blog and work, as usual. it was surprising and a bit scary seeing oro pop out like that but hilarious cause he only got 15 mins of fame :lol: love the “here’s jonny” part :lol: . i really hope that sasuke doesn’t lose his eyes or kishi is really gonna have a lot of very angry fangirls (including me) on his case.

  • ygt said:

    for the voting thing What would you rather have sealed inside you? why would anybody pick orochimaru

  • Siskin said:

    ok, so Itachi doesn’t have a kusinagi sword… it is kind of irritating that this new sword suddenly appeared… I liked it being tied in with the 7 swordsmen of the mist because that sillhouette hasn’t been resolved yet.

    and my theories about the kusinage swords are in chatper 391 discussion here
    http://www.narutohurricane.com/narutoblog/2008/03/01/naruto-manga-chapter-391-say-hello-to-susan/#more-1873
    but… I think it could still apply just that Itachi doesn’t have a kusinagi sword from the belly of the snake and that perhaps there’s a sword for every head of Yamata no orochi… so perhaps there’s 8 swords.

    And this snake seems to have the 8 tails … along with eight heads although it’s performance was a bit disappointing.

    I think Tobi is actually in Konoha (remember he was in the valley of the end not too long ago?) and the Konoha ninja are fighting an illusion… and Tobi isn’t really there… or maybe there are two tobi…. how crazy would that be? one is madara and the other is Obito? That would really throw people for a loop.

  • WhiteFangofkonaha said:

    Ok im now confused with orchimaru randomly jumping in battles heres johnny XD

  • narutofan said:

    maybe sasuke will finally emerge with ms since hes out of options. desperation always seems to make characters evolve beyond their limits to save the day. also i always thought that you had to have to ms users to be able to accomplish the ems.

  • Bob (author) said:

    Alright the last poll was a bit of a joke poll :D
    Though I’m concerned about the 7% of you that voted for Orochimaru….
    Anyways, new poll added. Enjoy.

  • rj said:

    it seems that my prediction was true, that orochimaru suppressed by sasuke at first will show up and take over sasuke in his weakened state…yet came to the scene not that long, pity to him…
    My mind now is cleared, because kishi showed itachi’s giftedness…it seems that in the previous chapter his moves were plain and seems not planned…all along, i realized, his plan was to drain sasuke’s chakra, and let orochimaru to get out of his shell…
    itachi on the hand, maybe has goal in his mind…
    yes its true, that stength from hatred fuels haste, sasuke is strong yet his strength, is not enough to bring down itachi’s prowess and power brought by his experience and calmness…

  • NSS7 said:

    next capter is called “MY EYE” so it could mean sasuke going to loose his eye (doesnt sound like thats going to happen) or sasuke have develope a new MS at the last moment and fight off susanoo :)

  • rj said:

    even if sasuke develops his MS, theres no way he can use it, mangekyu sharingan drains lot of chakra and can stress his body…in the plight of their fight now, sasuke already is weak due to constraint in chakra…the most probable thing will happen is itachi get the eye of sasuke, and reveal something about the true reason of his goal, and what really this goal…what we see in the previous chapter was a gengutsu, all along seems its true, but simply an illusion

  • rj said:

    it can be true that sasuke will develop his MS, but that will only come coherent to the plans of itachi…we will just wish kishi will not make this happen so itachi cant gain his EMS

  • PRINCEUCHIHA said:

    itahci’s a real uchiha unlike somebody( not saying any names)……sasuke!

  • Siskin said:

    Orochimaru being/having the 8 tails was strangly settling (although this random new sword is a little bothersome…)… I feel like it explains a bit of his weird connection with Naruto… they were both in the same boat trying to fight Akatsuki and even though he called the 9 tails a Rat or whatever in referencing him still being alive… I think Orochimaru realized his special connection with naruto.

    Plus, it also makes sense about Orochimaru’s family being dead when he was young…

    ALSO, it puts a completely different spin on the 3rd and his battle… I mean… think about it… here the third probably played a role/ or considered maybe it was the 8 tails that was affecting Orochimaru and that’s why he held back because he still had hope for that star student.

    It explains Orochimaru leaving Akatsuki… besides the fact that he tried to steal Itachi’s body.

    It explains why Itachi lured Sasuke out… not just for his eyes as he would like us to believe but to finally catch orochimaru. Remember Akatsuki was having trouble finding him so Sasuke played an important role in delivering him.

    This allows Akatsuki to fulfill their plans after they seal the 8 tails and then finding Naruto will be no problem.

    Kishi did a good job at combining the frog, snake, snail (rock paper scissors) with the bijuu mythology.

    Bob,
    you never mentioned Itachi’s comment about the real battle beginning when Orochimaru appeared. Is that because you didn’t think it was significant or is it because you’ve believed Itachi was good all along so it didn’t come as a shock to you?

    The covers of the last two manga have been troubling… a picture of Naruto without his hood on looking at the sky and a picture of Tobi in Konoha.

    Perhaps the swirly one eyed masks are part of the Akatsuki outfit and only Tobi and Madara wear them?

    I can’t wait for next week!

  • Iruka said:

    Sisken you bring up a lot of good points. Orochi a bijuu very possibe. If I am not mistaken, the cursed seal draws power/chakra from orochi. If that is the case then orochi would have to have a huge chakra reserve. So huge that orochi would have to be a bijuu. There is know way he could survive when people are contintly drawing up chakra, he would be always weak. Wonder if orochi in Sasuke is the 8 tails.

  • Chaos said:

    Um….so….who’s the jinchuuriki now? Sasuke or Orochimaru? …. Losing an eye, would be the worst case scenario for Sasuke because Kishi isn’t gonna kill off Sasuke.

  • Chaos said:

    BUT i think Iruka(or Siskin) might be onto something….if Orochimaru is sealed inside Sasuke, than Sasuke could draw out Orochimaru’s Chakra….and be able to counter Susano’o.

  • eighthHokage said:

    Nice Siskin,you bring up very interesting thoughts.You can easily write a blog about- 7 swordsmen of the mist(as you said-that sillhouette hasn’t been resolved yet).But it seems that you are lazy:-)
    I love idea that Tobi is just an illusion and the real Tobi is in Konoha.

  • eli987 said:

    Great name Bob ”15 seconds of fame” . That picture of Orochimaru is so gross. And I agree with NTG about fangirls :lol:
    Very interesting teories Siskin!

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    Great blog Bob ! ..
    I love how Orochimaru acts , He is me in the real world .. atleast almost ^^
    But i dont think this fight will end in a few chapters …

  • Pleasure and Pein said:

    i have to agree with fire lord sokka, there wont be 2 oro’s now, sasuke absorbed him, and kabuto took pieces of his flesh and DNA and added it to his own cellular structure…the akatsuki already have the 8 tails i believe!

  • nine tailed hokage said:

    this im preding that sasuke is taking overby orchimaru.and thats how he the same plac as naruto in shippuden movie 2,so that means that naruto is totally bessed my the nine talied fox

  • nine tailed hokage said:

    i ment pressed

  • prinston said:

    Now that orochimaru is seal inside a sword, what will happen to sasuke?

    Please let him win kishimoto.

  • Anbu_Quazzie said:

    “My Eye” is the title for the next chapter right…Well I’m thinkin it has nothing to do with Itachi or Sasuke but rather Tobi’s eye, I mean he only has ONE eye do kinda makes sence. Either that or like NSS7 and I have said, it reffers to Sasuke losing an eye.

  • Anbu_Quazzie said:

    And if you look at the first picture at the top of the page with Tobi, doesn’t the background seem like it’s Konoha. He probably is in Konoha.

    Actually it kinda looks like a run-down town, maybe it’s the Uchiha clan’s section of Konoha (hence the beat up buildings in the back).

  • silver_uchiha said:

    HELLO – Great blog Bob! “15 seconds of fame” Love it.
    Anbu_Quazzie – Yea I expect the next chapter will be about Madara.

  • scrubby said:

    Well great blog as always Bob.
    Well i got like you guy theories about Orochi the bijuu being in Orochimaru all this time ,and i never wanted to believe it but i have to now because that’s the sitaution right now, but call me crazy i don’t think the Eight taled beast Orochi is captured by Itachi’s Sasano techique. If that was the case then Gaara extaction shouldn’t took 4 days to complete he could’ve just use that technique. But i think Sasuke durring the upcoming time skip is going to train with Orochimaru to use his chakra like Naruto uses the Kyuubi’s. Because the finail battle will be the 8 tails vs the 9 tails.

  • silver_uchiha said:

    I may be once more wrong. BUT after this chapter I have gain new hope in Itachi. May be is just becouse seal horrible Oroshimaru…
    Anyway for long I expected that Itachi will be one of the goods at the end. Wanted to belive that he is just following orders given by his father to protect Sasuke from Madara, and save the village from that evil.
    Who know? IS JUST A DESIRE

  • NarutoElitNin said:

    The thing with orochimaru suked

  • silver_uchiha said:

    Hello – Just traing to see if new avatar work

  • ssj sasuke said:

    idk if anyone posted this already, didnt read all the comments, but i dont believe “my eyes” means sasuke’s eyes will be removed, but maybe they will evolve in some way. maybe some sourt of MS, like kakashi’s. i am almost certain kakashi didn’t obtain his from killing his best friend (who ever that might be) so there must be other means to obtain it. maybe under extreme circumstance (similar to how a saiyan becomes a super saiyan in dbz) which is the circumstance sasuke is faced with now.

  • prinston said:

    remember on chapter 386 when madara took his brother eye?
    Itachi never said anything about madara own brother loosing his eye sight.
    What if the mangekyou sharingan has a good source of power?
    and can sasuke really released it on itachi?

  • Sothe said:

    Orochimaru better be gone, hes annoying. and kabuto, just as annoying. Come on this fight needs 2 end! no more transoformation or eye techniques….and sasukes eye cant evolve! it needs loads of chakra to do the techniques.

  • Toshi said:

    New to this site, blah, blah, blah…

    Anyways, this chapter was quite epic, despite recent comments of it being complete bull, and Kishi fooling us into reading this lame excuse of a chapter.

    Personally, I loved this chapter. Only problem that occurred, which everyone has constantly argued about, is Orochimaru finally appearing! Yet gone in the stab of things. Sad, yes, but maybe Kishi has something planned for this sudden appearance of Orochimaru? Or maybe he felt the need to rid of this sinister snake? Who knows until next week…

    From the looks of it, Sasuke has lost this battle. Everyone now knows that he’s completely out of chakra, reason for Orochimaru’s appearance, and no other tricks up his sleeve. Only way I can see this outcome turning back around on Sasuke’s behalf is someone jumping in. Zetsu? Nah…he’s a spectator and mainly there to devour whoever loses.

    Hmm…Zetsu…does anyone have any clue on how he knows so much on the Uchiha’s and the such? He’s like Kishi in disguise!

    The Mangekyou Sharingan can only be obtained by killing your closest friend, as stated by Itachi. Kakashi obtaiend his through extensive training; go figure, since everyone else decided to train during those two years or whatever for the final battle against Orochimaru and to capture Sasuke. He probably believed himself to be weaker than Sasuke and Orochimaru, Naruto’s speculation as well, so training was the only way out of an endless abyss.

    I think I missed a few pointers…Oh, the next chapter’s title, “My Eye?” It could mean so many different things, ya. Itachi, Sasuke, Kakashi, or Tobi’s eye. Only way to know is to wait and eat ramen…

  • krazelicens said:

    I think I agree with ssj sasuke. It is quite possible the ways the Ms is obtained can be different. I find it hard to believe that Kakashi would kill his best friend to obtain power. And Itachi told Sasuke, the the only way to get MS was to kill his best friend, and Sasuke told him that he would find a different way to obtain MS, and perhaps he has in the upcoming chapter. We’re just going to need to wait.

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    What I don’t understand is why Itachi’s mangekyou has 3 abilities and Kakashi’s just one maybe he has something else but is holding back I hope so that would be cool.

  • Siskin said:

    Kakashio114,
    I think the reason Kakashi only has one is because each move is unique to the eye… like the right eye is Amaterasu and the left eye is Tsukuyomi (or maybe it’s the other way around). And Itachi said that when you unlock both you get the bonus track of Susanoo. So there’s no way Kakashi will be able to do any of those unless he’s able to obtain another sharingan eye.

    About the MS and sasuke unlocking it. Part of me thinks Kakashi actually killed obito and took his sharingan… or Kakashi purposely let obito get hit by the rocks or something… eh… ANyway… Madara’s brother developed the MS after him so his eyes weren’t nearly as bad as Madara’s. And that’s why madara took his eyes.

    Toshi,
    There was a theory about Zetsu being around at the beginning of Konoha because trees can grow very old and also because the 1st hokage’s clan was from the forest. SO, in theory he also came from the forest clan and that’s why he’s been with Madara for so long and knows a lot about the sharingan. But that’s just a theory… who knows… maybe Zetsu likes to read in his off time.

  • Toshi said:

    Kakashi isn’t an Uchiha, remember? He can’t access the Uchiha’s hidden abilities of the Mangekyou Sharingan, I presume. How he came upon Susano’o or whatever is out of my league of discussion.

  • Toshi said:

    Siskin
    Responded right after yours, blah.
    That makes more sense than what I thought of. Don’t ask about what it was though. But yeah, both of your theories on Kakashi and Zetsu seems sound and logical.

    I admit defeat, haha.

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    But don’t forget a non-uchiha cannot have a transplanted eyes so maybe Kakashi’s mother is an uchiha.

  • arex said:

    So Oh really like the theories about Tobi being the focus of the next chapter. For him to fully release the power of his Sharingan he would need both eyes.
    If he only has one, that means he needs to get the other one back to obtain the full power of the eyes. And if this whole Obito=Tobi thing is right. That means Kakashi is due to have a battle with an old friend he thought was gone. I don’t think Kakashi would ever have killed Obito on purpose. But I do like the idea that he might have no idea what happened and came to the conclusion that Kakashi stole the eye from him.
    Kinda like the whole Kikyo vengeance theme in Inuyasha. But if the battle between the two results in the death of one of the two, not only will the winner have access to two Sharingan eyes, but I think might also have the effect of changing their eyes into the Mangekyo.

  • Siskin said:

    I think Itachi said that Kakashi’s body wasn’t made to handle the stresses put on it by the one sharingan. This is also the reason why Orochimaru didn’t pluck out sasuke’s eyes because he was hoping to gain his body and a better controll of the sharingan.

    Also, about the EMS (eternal MS) and Kakashi’s inability to turn of his sharingan… I believe there is a connection. The EMS doesn’t allow you to turn of the MS.
    Kakashi also showed Itachi that you can force your plucked eyes into the next level, which may be why Itachi is pursuing Sasuke, but I really believe he was after Sasuke to catch Orochimaru. That’s why he makes the comment about the real battel beginning now.

  • prinston said:

    In the Kakashi gaiden, Obito had push kakashi out of the way before the rocks hit them .Then knowing that a medical ninja could not heal him from a big fatal blow he knew he was going to die. Obito then told Rin to give his sharingan eye to kakashi knowing that he was going to die. So it quite clear that that maybe kakashi obtain the mangekyou sharingan by 2 1/2 years of training.

  • 7th Hokage Naruto said:

    I’ts good to be here it’s my first time heheheh! : ) I like it here. It’s very comfortable world that i’d would like to live in… harharhar… Go sasuke! merge with orochi to pump ur power like a supersaiyan fusion!

  • FirelordSokka said:

    I believe that with time and more training, Kakashi will learn more about his MS and the techniques that go along with it. Just like any other technique, practice makes perfect … and discoveries are also made during training.

    I also believe there is more than one way to unlock MS. Kinda like someone said earlier, out of desperation, the Sharigan probably goes into overdrive, kinda like turning SSJ. Wasn’t there a light and a dark version of MS?

    As for the “My eye” chapter, I don’t think it’s about what everyone thinks it’s about. I think, that whoever it involves, their eye will be damaged, and therefore useless. What’s my reasoning for this? Simple … just to throw a wrench into everyone’s thinking and keep everyone guessing as to what’s gonna happen. lol.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    What do you suppose happens if sasuke, by a strike of luck, manages to pluck itachi’s eyes out. Since he doesn’t have the mangekyou sharingan already, he can’t have the EMS, so what would he get out of the transaction if anything? just wondering-

  • Nameless said:

    What I’m wondering is how Itachi is going to infuse Sasuke’s eyes into his own eye socket if he doesn’t know any medical ninjutsu, which I believe you need.

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    yes bob and ygt im also worried about the prople who would choose to have orochimaru inside of them.boy i tell you… sometimes i just wonder

  • scrubby said:

    Welcome “7 hokage” i hope u enjoy the best Naruto blog site ever thxs to Bob and many others here.
    And the thought that Itachi is really after Orochimaru who is the 8 tailed beast Orochi might be right but how is Akatsuki going to get it out of Sasuke without killing him and Itachi plans of getting Sasuke eyes when he attain MS so he can gain EMS that might be a question that we might discover later i guess.

  • scrubby said:

    But i do think the scene is going to switch over to “konoha team too many shinobi’s” vs “Tobi” aka Madara next week.

  • krazelicens said:

    Didn’t Itatchi use a sword that Orochimaru has been looking for that can seal who it strikes within it? If so, there would be no need for Itatchi and the rest of the Akatsuki to capture and kill Sasuke in order to get the 8 tailed beast Orochimaru.

  • scrubby said:

    If that’s so why wasn’t the sword used on others who demon had to be extracted?

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    hey good idea princeton.if there is another or good source of obtaining the MS,then maybe kakashi isnt going blind.maybe if you dont kill your best friend then the eye maintains its light.BUT as kakashi has already asked itachi how bad his eyesight has become.then it means that kakashi is loosing his eyesight OR since no one from the uchiha clan lives in konoha any more,that Tsunade allowed kakashi to read the uchiha clans secrets.she obviously knows or is involved in something because do you all remember when kakashi returneed from the sand when trying to rescue gaara.Tsunade congratulated him and said that it would take some time for him to master that new sharingan.do all ninja report to the hokage on the new techniques that they learned ?

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    hey siskin i really like your comments and im not bashing you but.i thought that madara and his younger borther where of equal strenght and through traing both brothers awakeded the MS(who was first…im not sure).im not sure because of the age difference,meaning madara took conrtol of the clan because he is older ya know.i dont think he was that better.his brother also looks alot like sasuke.

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    kakashi0114 WHY can a non uchiha have a transplanted eye ?are you talking about MS or EMS ??

  • ssj sasuke said:

    they’re probably suppose to, to seek approval, but i doubt they all do

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    ok i finally read all the comments.in an interview kishi said that he didnt want team hebi to all have fights but the higher ups recommended it.we all know that suigetsu is fighting kisame or maybe it wont happen.maybe kisame will come to itachis aid and the fight never happens.but im curious as to who will karin and jugo will fight

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    seek approval for what ssj sasuke ?

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    イタチ スゴイ デス ト サスケ ト イタチ i hope we get some early spoilers.it killing me!! 
    ああ わたし の エイ
    aa watashi no ai
    ah my eye (ai=eye in katakana)
    just using every opportunity to pracice

  • ssj sasuke said:

    i was responding to when you asked if they report to the hokage with the new jutsus they learned. i meant that the hokage probably has to approve of the new jutsu, whether or not it should be allowed in the village. For example, if someone invented the
    “impure world ressurection jutsu” they would be required to show it to the hokage before he would be allowed to use it, which would obviously be forbiddened by the hokage. i don’t actually know if they have to report to the hokage i just said they probably do

  • ssj sasuke said:

    sweet, just been upgraded!

  • Tensai-teki said:

    that does make sense.for all the wii owners on here.super smash bros brawl just came out and its awesome!im a chuunin so ill celebrate by getting a new avatar tomorrow.there were some interesting things that happened but not enough to have comment spamming like before.so if anything comes to me ill post.ttyl
    じゃ またね 

  • konohas new white fang said:

    up until now, we’ve only seen one of madara’s eyes in the manga. if madara is tobi, why would he wear a mask with one eye hole? maybe has one eye. think about it, madara plucks out one eye from his brother. i doubt his brother just stayed idle waiting for madara to take the next eye. what if an equivalent exchange occured? madara took one eye and his brother took one of madara’s eye.

    and it turns out that there are two tobis, this might explain why.

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    Hey Tensaki I said only a uchiha can have a transplanted eye because Itachi said it while explaining the ems to Sasuke

  • shatterstar said:

    …orochimaru’s hydra technic is cool but itachi’s astral swords just reap that stuff…

    …orochimaru’s head is 8 not tails is he a bijuo????

  • FirelordSokka said:

    I have a question … why is everyone referring to Orochimaru as the 8 tailed demon? He’s not a bijuu, nor is he jinchuuriki. I’m sure there’s probably another reason why people wanted him sealed for eternity. Remember the 3rd Hokage tried it too …

  • FirelordSokka said:

    I had the same thought as Konohas New White Fang when the whole “eye plucking” occurred, but think about this … If you were Madara, seeking power at any cost to be ruler of all, would you share that with your brother? I think he’d probably tease him with it then squish it or destroy it.

  • 7th Hokage Naruto said:

    Pity on Orochimaru! He must have deal a great way to get on sasuke body to help him defeat itachi and his monster girlfriend. Wait is it a he, a she or an it? lol. anyways. It’s pretty scary enemy. Scrubby, Thanks for welcoming me here! Yea I enjoyed here very much. There’s a lot of stuff I don’t know very much that now I know. Naruto world is like an enigma. The more mysteries, secrets, and controvorsies the more i craved for it. lol!

  • Sothe said:

    i l9ike the idea that ‘my eye’ ould be about kakashi and a few of the leaf ninja are gunna storm in and kick itachis butt, thatd be nice

  • Sothe said:

    sorry bout the spelling, i cant type with a broken finger and thumb

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    Orochimaru maybe got the 8tailed beast inside him ? .. And can control it like a pet , because when Orochimaru wants to, he’s really strong.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I believe that Madara has only one eye and in many pictures one of his eyes is covered from his hair{maybe his is just an emo or something} and if Bob is right {i believe he is} about Tobi and the battle in konoha then the battle with Naruto’s team will end and we won’t learn about Tobi’s true idenity.But maybe we ‘ll learn something from the konoha battle.So Naruto’s team may save Sasuke.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    If Orochimaru had the 8tailed inside him then Akatsuki should have tried to catch him and not kill him and now that he is dead{if he is dead} their plan of capturing the beasts has failed and if they wanted to capture him then why Itachi ”killed” him in the battle with Sasuke?

  • guruku said:

    Let me hopefully shine some light into the mysterious reasons why Akatsuki didn’t catch Orochi for the tailed beast (that is IF Orochi DOES have the 8 tails inside him).

    Akatsuki’s had a multi-tiered plan. To it’s new members they promised them things such as power and riches (Kakuzu). They revealed to their members that they were going to each become owners of a bijuu for power, and become the ones to control wars. They will be hired as mercenaries and such, and thus the riches will come. Soon, they will conquer the world by having both power and money.

    1. After telling them all this the stupid ones will believe it and follow the Akatsuki blindly. (although I personally believe there’s a bigger plan than what we see on the surface).

    2. There was no need to Capture Orochimaru if he was believed to be on Akatsuki’s team. They could simply betray him AFTER to take the Bijuu out of him (if they chose too). Thus, he was no threat at the time and why waste valuable resources to kill someone with so much chakra (if he does have the 8 tails inside of him).

    Here is where the flaw came about:

    1. Hate to say this but Orochimaru is an incredibly smart freak of nature. He might have found out about the true intentions of Akatsuki, and escaped (with the stupid ring).

    2. There seems to be more akatsuki members than available bijuu’s. So not everyone is going to become more powerful by getting a Bijuu. (Im not 100 percent sure if they said they were each going to be given a bijuu or not)

    Also, let us not forget that the Sword that Itachi summoned was a Genjutsu Sealing Sword, it means that the beast is in a Genjutsu and not DEAD. The Snake will most likely still have it’s chakra ability and etc. for them to seal into another ninja (or the statue for that matter).

    ANyways, I agree with Siskin’s comment (#36)
    It’s probably the best analysis of what the freak is going on with all this snake vomits… Anyways, lets hope to see a new advancement of cliffhangers soon!

  • guruku said:

    Anyways, I don’t know if my previous comment made much sense.
    I was attempting to counter issues regarding people asking how Itachi could Kill Orochi and still be following Akatsuki’s plans.
    And also Akatsuki MAY have known Orochi had the eight tails inside him all along while having him on their side with a false sense of security knowing the Akatsuki’s intentions were to give people Bijuu powers with intent of conquering the world.

    In other note: I think the “goals of akatsuki” is a facade to be told to its members and at the last minute there will be some sort of MAJOR back-stabbing going on in the future. Possibly by Madara, or Pein, or… who?

  • konohas new white fang said:

    this might be a bit of a stretch but what if kakashi obtained his MS by trying to copy Itachi’s MS? it might be possible to use the sharingan in copying MS but it might take a lot of training to completely possess it like how sasuke had to train a lot for his body to get used to lee’s hyperspeed techniques and taijutsu

  • Siskin said:

    White Fang,
    I think the only problem with that theory about Kakashi copying the MS is that blood line abilities are not supposed to be copyable. Whether that applies to the MS or not is another question… And a lot of people have called Kakashi’s MS an incomplete version of Amaterasu… but… who knows?

  • I.O. said:

    so much for being one of the three sannins. they treated him like crap. and do you know what……..IT WAS HILARIOUS!!!!! i love the “I WILL KILL YOU!!” facial expression on Oro’s face (i decided to shorten his long ass name cause i’m lazy, deal with it.) but my all time favoritest look (yes i said favoritest) would have to be Itachi’s. i was just floored by the “not this a-hole again” look that he gave. and then to top it off, Zetsu’s “whats with that guy and things coming out of his mouth comment”………i could not stop laughing with this chapter. i love it. I hate this arc, but i love this chapter.

  • Sothe said:

    haha! that made me laugh IO you got the names for the faces completely right!! This chapter was funny, oro thought he was so hardcore and he just got eaten basically…unluckyy!

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    http://naruto-xx.blogspot.com/ like it said they’re probably fake but the pictures seem disturbing.how does saauke know about the rinnengan ? orochimaru maybe.or its a bunch of bs ??? g2g back to skool.ttyl

  • Chaos said:

    well…..Kyio-Sharingan huh? with 4 tomoes? a Sharingan that rivals Rinnegan……man, that would be awesome, but it’s probably just one of the scripts…..though it looks great, it kinda’ messes up some theories going around…..probably it’ll turn out to be fake….but the idea isn’t bad…

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    When i finish the reading of the last the chapter i felt{i still fell} sorry for Orochimaru.The whole thing, oh kishi is the man.Orochi came out from the hydras mouth with a winners look like yeah i’m back baby and i’m gonna f**** kill you and take Sasuke’s body and ….. {Itachi:Oh shut it!} and then bang. and orochi was f***** up.

  • Chaos said:

    but if that’s true it would make Sasuke even stronger…..to strong for the Sannin…..well what’s left of’em :P …..or Kage’s…..this way Sasuke would become too powerful (yes, I know Sasuke is powerful mostly because of his Cursed seal), Naruto couldn’t catch up with him anytime soon…..BUT as i said before the concept of this new Sharingan isn’t at all bad….

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    ed SORRY

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    ssj sasuke, i think you’re right … Because i really think that Orochimaru got the 8tailed beast inside himself, and because the Orochimaru is smart and hide himself every time… omg, My theory is .. and starts with Sasori and Kabuto, Akatsuki knew Orochimaru had the 8tailed beast inside him. Then Sasori made a spy on Orochimaru (Kabuto) so when they needed the 8tailed beast they knew were it was but .. Sasori is dead, and Kabuto doesnt have that mindcontrol from Sasori in his head anymore.. So now Itachi heard Sasuke beat Orochimaru and heard that Orochimaru died (Orochimaru doenst die when he fails to take over a body) and Itachi knew that because Orochimaru tried to do on Itachi and Orochimaru never died so .. He got a plan and now he has completed it , he catched Orochimaru and hes not after Sasuke’s eyes yet, because Itachi want EMS (Eternal/Permament Mangekyou) to obtain EMS you need to take your brothers eyes (WITH MANGEKYOU) and Sasuke doesnt have MS yet so .. Itachi will leave him and take Orochimaru in the genjutsu to Akatsuki and then they will seal it. . Thats my thought. And about Kabuto, he have just planted some of Orochimarus DNA in his DNA , he will just gain Orochimarus powers and such like that, REAL Orochimaru will never be inside Kabuto . Or maybe Orochimaru founds a way to escape from the eternal genjutsu Itachi put him in and then he goes into Kabuto body and minds .. who knows? Just Kishi .. But i think Sasuke will team up with Naruto again and fight Akatsuki, because Naruto will go after Nagato (Pein when he finds out that Pein killed Jiraiya .. and Sasuke wants to kill Itachi and Madara . Sasuke and Naruto as a team nowadays will be hard to win over , .. Thats just my theory by now .. ^^,

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Well, Chaos i dont think that Sasuke is more powerful than Naruto because of his curse seal.Also Naruto has some forms of the 9tailed beast who are as strong as Sasuke’s curse seal.Sasuke has got many powerful jutsus.He can summon Manta , he has the sharingan , he’s faster than Naruto , he has evoled his chidori , he’s new jutsu kirin and the snake tricks of orochimaru and maybe some tricks that we don’t know yet.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I agree with you Anaujiram and don’t forget the upcoming Naruto Shippuuden movie.It seems like Sasuke and Naruto are fighting side by side.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Yeah i’m a Genin !THANKS EVERYONE!

  • Mart said:

    orochimaru-not a biju!!! Itachi’s sword just put him in an eternal sleep, he did not extract him, however if you want to compare orochimaru to a biju then his soul is forever sealed in saskue but with a seal so tight nothing escapes.
    Anbu do tell the hokage their skills so kakashi might-good idea tensai
    kakashi=not an uchiha as clearly stated by Itachi
    as for his eye techniques-each person probably developes their own techniques not just amat.,susanno, and tsk.; but they are probably similar because of them all being eye techniques; just take a look at kakashi’s MS jutsu, its a comniation of the aiming of Amatesru and the dimension capabilities of Tsk.. I make no prediction on what “my eye” means and can someone explain whats up with the seven swordsmen cause ppl keep mentioning them and all I kno is that zabuza and those other two belong to their group and the water guy on team hebi wants to be one of them.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I really need to thank you people.I like everything here.In my country we don’t even watch Naruto.Believe it.Here we don’t know what Naruto is{except me and a few others i think}.You are really great.Sorry if i’m just wasting your time with that post.Thank God you ‘re real.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Now that orochi is k.o Akatsuki has got an easier work{if he’s got the 8tailed}.

  • Mart said:

    I think the post is fake and saskue is much more powerfull than naruto because hes got lots of jutsu and is smart. Naruto is fairly weak because he isnt good at the most basic stuff and his jutsus are all sacrifical. If you think about it all he’s got is a massive chakra and even so he still has less than alot of ppl

  • krazelicens said:

    i agree with mart. not only does Sauske have more justsus and is smarter, he has a more range of attacks, where Naruto is more hand to hand and up close And Naruto also has been depending on the 9 tails chakra. thats why, i think it was either Yamato or Kakashi, told Naruto he has to start using his own chakra and not the nine tails. Thats where his true strength lies.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Between Sasuke and Naruto……… Sasuke is the man.But Naruto is the hero.Well i like him sometimes because !sometimes! he is funny and dummy.

  • prinston said:

    Even though that orochimaru is seal inside Itachi sword, I’m just wondering, is sasuke free of orochimaru?

  • Sharingan Master said:

    4 the last time Oro is not a jinchurrii(dont know if that is the correct spelling) or a biiju. his real form is a snake of course and if he was a jinchurrii he wouldve used the power on Itachi a long time ago and if he was a biiju the Akatsuki wouldve known already. How else would they know all the other jinchurrii locations and the biiju. Its common sense.

  • FirelordSokka said:

    I think Naruto is matched evenly with Sasuke. If he continues training with multiple shadow clones like he has been, he’ll surpass Sasuke in no time.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I can’t wait for the next chapter.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    FirelordSokka i think i agree.But not exactly in no time.

  • prinston said:

    Tobi\Madara said that the only way that to gain the full power of is Sharingan he will need all of the tailed-beasted in that statue.
    So what if his other Sharingan eye is had been seal when trying to summon the nine-tailed fox.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Naruto needs to develop more powerful jutsus.His rasengan {oodama etc.} needs time and even with his clone help it isn’t like Sasuke’s new form of chidori.

  • FirelordSokka said:

    Yes … someone else believes that Orochimaru is NOT a Bijuu or Jinchuuriki! Wooohooo!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    To perform a summoning jutsu you don’t need sacrifice a member of your body.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    need to

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I want to ask something.I dont believe that Itachi is completly blind but if he is blind how he’s gonna take Sasuke’s eyes if he cant even see where Sasuke is{ahahahahaaahaaha}?I know its silly.

  • krazelicens said:

    maybe Itatchi will uses his other senses. Don’t your other senses get better if one gets worst, like if you loose your sight, your hearing gets better. I think Itachi can use hearing to hear Sasukes movements. And if he gets a hold of Sasuke he can find his eyes and pluck them. He also still has Susano behind him.

  • Iruka said:

    people a ninja’s strength is not mesured by the amount of jutsus but by his actions and beliefs. Sasuke has more jutsus then Naruto but that does not mean Sasuke is stronger then naruto.Anyway Sasuke when ever there is trouble seems to activate his curse seal. He relies on it to much. NAruto finally realized that he to rellies to much on the kyuubi for help and he decided to no longer use the kyuubi’s help. Naruto jutsus are suited for him. He has a huge chakra reserve and the the shadow clone and the rasengan are perfect for naruto. Naruto and Sasuke are equal in strength.

  • Iruka said:

    Shattersar downsize your avatar way to big

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Iruka (#16 Hockey Dude) you ‘re right but i still don’t like Naruto { Go Go Sasuke-kun}.

  • krazelicens said:

    ah, I didn’t think of Sasukes cursed mark. I completely forgot about it. Now that I think of it, Sasuke does rely on it in most of his fights.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I think that you may find it interesting.It’s Naruto’s music.Do you know that each character has his own music?{well not everyone}

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?
    v=TIPJb129vX0&feature=related{for naruto}

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-lIPggt3Cw&feature=related { for naruto shippuuden} There are lots of soundtracks.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    What do you think about the next chapter?I mean do you think he ‘ll end the fight between the Uchiha brothers?If he don’t , at least i want to know what happens with Tobi!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I hope that Sasuke wont lose his eyes!I just cant imagine what ‘ll happen next if he loses them.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Well if someone dont interupt the fight maybe Akatsuki call them back to help with the battle with konoha.{if Bob (Toilet-kun) is right about the picture with Tobi in Konoha}.{i believe he is}.Sorry about my orthography , if i have any mistakes.I feel sleepy.{its the difference between the hour}{I’m in Greece}.

  • Sharingansasuke said:

    dude i thk tht return waz way 2 quick but at leest we no tht orochimaru isnt cumin bak

  • Sharingansasuke said:

    i hope tobi is in konoha i reely wanna see a big battle between the shinobi of the leaf vs akatsuki

  • Sharingansasuke said:

    i agree tht kraceliens is rite
    sasuke relies on his curse seal 2 much
    he should rely more on his own strength

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I just cant wait for the next chapter!Kishi give it to us.I’ll give an eye to Itachi in the worst case.{as SEPHIROTH13 i’m a Hyuuga it maybe interesting haha}!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I agree about Sasuke too.I also want to see a fight like that too Sharingansasuke.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I ‘ve got a question?If Tobi is Madara{he is}then how Itachi didn’t notice that a sharingan user is in Akatsuki.Maybe its silly but i just dont get it.But maybe he knows and that’s why he told to Sasuke that he has a plan about Madara.But maybe Madara isn’t so weak as Itachi believes.I think that he ‘ll be the one who ‘ll kill Tsunade if he dont then maybe Pain.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Great avatar Sharingansasuke!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Thats the right one about naruto’s music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0Benvwa56M&feature=related.If it its not working just write Naruto Soundtrack and select the one with naruto’s image{he shows his hand}

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I also want to know if Zetsu will appear now that Sasuke ”is” defeated.If he dont it means that he wasn’t sent by Akatsuki.

  • H said:

    siskin,
    While I agree with your statement that Kekkei Genkai cannot be copied, Kakashi is also a weird/special case. Although he is not (at least from what we know) an Uchiha clan member, he has Obito’s eye and therefore, in a weird way, has Uchiha blood and DNA inside him. I mean it also kinda explains how he developed the Sharingan eye, because Obita only had two tomes I believe. Intense training can take you only so far; because of that eye transplant with Obito, Kakashi has inherited perhaps a very limited bloodline ability. Once again tho, I agree siskin, who knows? :)

  • krazelicens said:

    Zetzu was never sent by the Akasuki(I think). After he saw the fight with Pein and Jirya, he said there is another battle he wants to see. At the time, I thought we was talking about Naruto and Tobi, but then it went to Sasuke and Itachi. I guess he just knows everything thats going on, and chose the Sasuke Itachi fight, because he knew it would be an epic battle.

  • prinston said:

    sharingansasuke pleased can you help me get a avatar

  • FirelordSokka said:

    Forgive if this is the wrong place … but I gotta say this …

    At one time there was a debate whether Tobi and Obito were the same person, maybe it’s still going on, but I think this is more reasonable than Tobi being Madara.

    I say this because, most Immortals, do not age physically or age REALLY slow. So how Madara looked during his battle with the First Hokage, would be more or less how he looks now. Which I believe is a grown adult. Tobi, or Obito, on the other hand, was a student, same age and likeness as Kakashi and Rin. A bit inexperienced, but nonetheless very capable.

    One more thing, have ever seen Tobi’s eyes? His would tell us definitely who it is. Madara has EMS which would mean his eyes are stuck on MS. If it’s Sharingan, it’s Obito, who has yet to discover MS … or so we think …

    Just my two cents …

  • prinston said:

    O.K Sasuke know Fire Ball, Phoneix Flower, Dragon Flame, Chidori, Chidori Nagashi ,Chidori Sword, Chidori Sebon, Snake Summoning, Hidden Shadow Snake , Sharingan, Genjutsu, Cursed Mark level 1, Cursed Mark level 2, Kirin and his weapon is the Chokuto Sword.

    Naruto has the Shadow Clone, Muti-Shadow Clone, Rasengan, Wind Style Rasengan, Oodama Rasengan, Rasen Shuriken, Toad Summoning, Nine-Tailed Fox Charka and Nine-tailed fox tails(1,2,3 and 4)

    Even though Sasuke and Naruto might be genins they are really Jouins (because they did not take part in the Chunin and been training with one of the sannins).

    One day they will fight as equals again.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    i will be very upset, and i think sasuke will too, if naruto and the rest of the kanoha enters the fight, like some people are predicting, or zetsu. even if they end up saving his life, and especially if sasuke turns the tides and they save itachi, sasuke has been waiting his WHOLE LIFE for this fight. NO INTRUDERS. even if they saved him, he would only get more pissed off and would no way return with them. he’d probably just run off and train like a MOFO. no matter what the circumstances are, i am a firm believer that sasuke will prevail at the end of this fight, unless we find out itachi is good somehow, which would totally boggle sasuke’s brain…

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    hey on this site, on the side of the cover it says ‘what lies behind madara’s mask”.then maybe if this is true then the whole “my eye” thing will be related to tobi,madara instead of sasuke.and his eye or the origins of this presons eye heritage lies in konoha.just a thought.

  • Mart said:

    Naruto would be better than saskue if he used his toad summoning jutsu to a better degree or if he learned any combat ninjutsu that didn’t compleatly kill him

  • Drangonkillamaterialz said:

    Yeah i agree with you mane…Naruto has alot of potential N i know Sasuke and all them can see that! maybe thats why Sasuke wanted to leave to see if he gets stronger..N yea he has but Naruto always fights back thinking about his friends and stuff which gives him hope N all that bullshit! N is why is going to become the best Hokage!!!!

  • i.o. said:

    ssj sasuke……..that avatar is hot. too big…….but hot. that would suck if Naruto ends up coming in the middle. but what would suck most is if naruto kills itachi. cause then there will be no hope for the NARUSASU friendship. sad………………

  • Siskin said:

    HEY SPOILERS!!!… YOU have to tkae a look at the bottom of this page…
    http://forum.onemanga.com/showthread.php?t=9935
    it looks like the real deal.

  • guruku said:

    OMG AVATAR OVERLOAD!

    SSJ YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT OFF!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Siskin you ‘re right.If the spoilers are true we ‘ve got an irony.I mean when Itachi tries to take Sasuke’s eye and because he is weak he hits his forhead.He used to do that to Sasuke when he was little.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    And if Susano attacks Zetsu it may has double meaning.1 Itachi wanted Zetsu to leave because he is good and he didn’t want him to inform Akatsuki.2 He thought that someone was just watching them.{if the spoilers are real}!

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    oh my god .. Siskin that chapter is fake .. Itachi did just fight Sasuke because he knew Orochimaru was in him and Orochimaru has an 8tailed beast inside him, and Sasuke cant do snake jutsus, just because Orochimaru were in him (Sasuke), Sasuke could summon manta and do every snake jutsu.. And it doesnt matter if Itachi takes Sasukes eyes now , because he will not obtain EMS by taking a pair of normal Sharingan eyes, the eyes you need to make EMS is MS sharingan, when Sasuke have MS Itachi will go after him and try to take them .. or am i wrong? maybe .. But Madara have 2 EMS eyes, not one Sharingan or 1 EMS .. and i found the chapter 393 but its maybe fake, but it looks more true than Siskins chapter..

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    here http://www.naruto-xx.blogspot.com/

    Manga 393 starts off with Sasuke’s memory of Kakashi-sensei saying: “The moment you start relying on the powers of Orochimaru, that is when you will stop growing”.

    Sasuke then remembers how Naruto begun surpassing him in everything, and the hatred he felt towards his own brother.

    Itachi approaches Sasuke who is on the floor unable to move because Orochimaru was forced out of him. Itachi grabs Sasuke by the hair, lifts his head, extends his hand and says: “Silly little brother. I always get what I want. You were never opponent to measure my container – and neither were Dad or the other Uchiha” and plucks out one of Sasuke’s eye.

    Sasuke screams, and falls into a trance remembering the death of his parents. Time and space stops, and Itachi lets go of Sasuke. Sasuke’s body starts levitating, and Itachi wonders if he is in a genjutsu. Sasuke is placed on his feet, Itachi looks at Sasuke’s face and jumps back while asking: “That is not possible – … what? … wh…” and finally, Itachi is tied by snakes to a cross.

    When Sasuke looks up, Itachi sees the hole where one of Sasuke’s eyes used to be, but does not understand what is in place of his other eye. He asks Sasuke: “What manner of Jutsu is this?”

    Sasuke takes two steps forward, and says “This is Kiyo-Sharingan” – his Sharingan is black, with 4 dots on it and surrounded by fire. Sasuke gets closer to Itachi, and plucks out one Itachi’s eyes.

    The Jutsu is broken when Itachi struggles to free himself. Itachi asks how Sasuke got this new Sharingan. Sasuke says that in order to awaken the Kiyo’Sharingan, a Mangekyu User has to touch the Sharingan of his victim – and in twisted revenge, Kiyo rises to avenge itself by transforming the Sharingan into Kiyo’Sharingan, which rivals the Rin’negan, and is the closest to the Demonic Sharingan blood.

    Itachi tries to run, but Sasuke hits Itachi with Amaterasu. Then Sasuke says: “Now I will make my vision complete”.

    Next: “Blind Fury”

  • Chaos said:

    “I ‘ve got a question?If Tobi is Madara{he is}then how Itachi didn’t notice that a sharingan user is in Akatsuki.Maybe its silly but i just dont get it.”

    Sephiroth13 … um ….. Itachi knows about Tobi’s identity, he was there when he gave orders to Pein……..Itachi learned from Madara himself what to do to obtain the Mangekyou Sharingan……..and it’s Tobi/Madara who brought Itachi to The Akatsuki.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    whoa whoa whoa. thought i resized that when i changed my avatar b4 i went to bed, woke up and saw that monsterous thing. MY BAD DEFFINATELY. but i just changed it back so it should change in a sec. my bad again lol

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    Tobi is Obito ! cant you guys understand? , why should Madara go around with a mask with one hole ? .. if he did a “take over body” like orochimaru can do, if he did that on Obito he wouldnt use the mask and shit or would he ? ..
    and yes MADARA brought Itachi into Akatsuki because madara needs 4 mangekyou users to help him with a secret thing .. and its not to summon the 9tailed beast or control it .. its unseal his father and defeat him or something ..

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    haha and i forgot where i read every old manga about Madara and his brother and Father.. And about Nagato (Pein) ..And about Kakashi/Rin/Obito.. damnit my memory sucks , but i still remember almost everything ..

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    And by the way, my avatar is slow to change -.- !!

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbwDVDAGsww

    im pretty sure these are the correct spoilers.i believe its showing the pictures our of order.because in the beginning sasuke is standing over itachi

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Anaujiram the post of yours about what happens in 393 is the same with the one that is in the site that Siskin posted.But the site that Siskin posted has some very fake spoilers thats all.I’m just saying this because i saw it too.

  • Sothe said:

    i dont think there real. they wernet very professional to say the least, tommorow should bring some confirmed spoilers.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Anaujiram you said that Madara needs 4 MS users.Well, Iatchi , Madara, maybe Sasuke and the fourth?

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Sothe I hope so.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    kiyo-sharingan. i love it. not so sure its true, but i love it none the less. if those spoilers were true, then would the eye sasuke pulled out of itachi become kiyo once it enters sasukes eye socket. or for that matter, when a sharingan is plucked and transplanted from one uchiha to another, does it retain the same properties it had from the previous user, or will it become like the person’s who now has it?

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I think that it does retain the same properties from his previous user and adds them to the person who has it.{if the spoiler is true}

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    Cool spoilers but under it is says fake but the kiyo sharingan sounds cool if its real.

  • prinston said:

    The Kiyo Sharingan might be the sharingan when saw then gentsu when itachi tried to steal sasuke other eye.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Yeah and {if it is real} i didn’t expect that Sasuke had come this far.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Thanks Bob and Team Shannaro!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I can’t wait for the next chapter!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Well,if a battle is about to begin in Konoha I dont think that Tobi will be alone.But it ‘ll be interesting if he kills Tunade.And then maybe Kakashi will be the next Hokage.

  • arex said:

    personally, to me, this whole kiyo sharingan sounds like a fake to me
    but then again with the last chapter I thought the Orochimaru one that turned out to be real was the fake one
    It does take chakra to use the Sharingan, and it took Sasuke using up all his chakra for Orochimaru to break free.
    I’m just wondering what could have triggered a change in Sasuke’s Sharingan so abruptly. Maybe the death of his mentor?
    Personally, though, I think spoiler with Itachi collapsing is more believable. Though it is extremely reminiscent of the Kimimaro death sequence, I fell it would be a more poignant to end this battle.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    None of us knows if the spoilers are true or not.????PLEASE if anyone knows something , please tell us!!!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I think Kishi prepared something good for us or at least i want to believe it.I want to see what ‘ll happen with Tobi and Tsunade and Konoha and Naruto.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    And i really want to know if the spoiler about Zetsu is true.

  • Tee said:

    i wonder if the byakugan have stronger eye techniques like the sharingan or a second form like the mangekyou sharingan.

  • krazelicens said:

    I don’t think the byakugan gets stronger eye forms like the sharnigan, but I do think new jutsus suited to the byakugan evolve.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    not to take the focus off this battle, cause that is deffinately what im most interested in right now, but i wonder what is going on with gaara right now. we havnt heard from him since he lost his bijuu, and im sure he is training like crazy to get his sand control back

  • krazelicens said:

    can he get is sand control back? i thought he was only able to control it because of his bijuu.

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7LJg98P7QE

    hey guys these pics are much better and i have never known this person to post fake stuff.and it has a spoiler script

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    sephiroth13 what country are you from.i remember you mentioning your country ?

  • Prinston said:

    If Sasuke defeat Itachi and his partner Suigetsu defeat Kisame and Naruto team defeat Tobi, what will happen if the team ’s ever come face to face ?

  • ssj sasuke said:

    im not sure if gaara can still use his sand control but when naruto left, and shook gaara’s hand, there was some sand twirling around their hands. thought that was foreshadowing

  • naruto abarai said:

    hey everyone do you think itachi will get sasuke with his mergey sword sorry if i’m repeating comments

  • ssj sasuke said:

    Tensai, i just saw that video you posted the link to. If that is true than i am happy for sasuke, but i also wonder what he’ll do now? I bet he will go after madara, which might make him encounter the kanoha ninja. Can’t wait to see

  • Prinston said:

    Even though that Garra has the Shukaku release from his body he still has his ability to control sand. Maybe he was born with that ability. Now that he the kazekage he needs to start training to so he can equal thee the power of that of the shukaku.

  • krazelicens said:

    i do remember that. that could be some foreshadowing. it’d be great if gaara had trained a lot and got control of his sand again.

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    has anyone thought of the relatoinship of the process of sealing a bijuu into a jinchuuriki.i mean gaara said that he killed his mother,BUT how did narutos mother die i wonder.she seemed healthy in jiraiyas flashbacks and seemed like a descent ninja from the whirlpool village.i was just thinking this lately as i reflect on jiraiyas last thoughts.im not sure but i could have sworn that chiyo-baasan said the the controlling of the iron sand was once a power of those who had the nibi shukaku sealed inside of them.if this is so i wonder why gaara never used it ?also some good pointe you guys.i wonder if gaara will be able to fight now that his bijuu has been removed.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    i am pretty sure he is going to come back into the scene later as the story porgresses. he’ll probably end up fighting an akatsuki member while helping the kanoha ninja. he’ll probably still have some sand control, but i bet we’ll see some improvements in his other jutsus and taijutsus that he has had to improve on since losing his bijuu.

  • krazelicens said:

    i don’t think Gaara was able to use iron sand. I think that Chiyo-Baasan said that either the first or second Kazekages was the only ones that could use the iron sand, and one of those Kazakages is the one that Sasori killed and turned in to one of his puppets, and used on Sakura and Chiyo in the fight.

  • krazelicens said:

    oh and the Naruto’s mother thing. Didn’t Gaara kill his mother at birth because his father sealed Shukaku while his mother was still pregnant? Since the 9 tailed fox was sealed in Naruto at birth, maybe his mother tried stopping the 4th from sealing the 9 tails within Naruto and died trying. That is, if she is dead.

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    yeah i do believe that gaara will help fight in the end against akatsuki
    hey do you all want to know one of the meanings of kirin

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7LJg98P7QE

    very good website.ive learned all of my hiragana and katakana exclusively throught this site.this is the web resources that i use.i also use rosetta stone which is great.and some good books.its amazing that there are so many ways to say the same thing

  • ssj sasuke said:

    you learned from youtube?

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    no mybad that is the wrong link.i guess it was still in my ram memory.give me a sec

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    http://www.thejapanesepage.com/node/778
    its a

    じゃがりこ みんなさん がめばって 

    if you are interested in learning the language i would say go for i.yes it is a difficult language but if you are interested and make it fun then the difficulty level will go down.just do it in sprts instead of an all day affair.i use it while looking at raw manga and listening to anime.i feel like this site gave me a good head start before i got my rosetta stone software becasue i already knew all of the hiragana and katakana.kanji is a whole nother beast.but even thought there are arguably about 50-80,000 depenging on your source.you onnly need the essential 1,945 or roughly 2,000 that are used in everyday japan to be fluent.dont get me wrong im in the upper beginner level with only a few months under my belt but with years of listening lol.it like even though i can sound the words out i still do not know its meaning in hiragana.i want to learn alot of words in hiragana before i move onto katakana.katakana is mostly used for english or non japanese words so they arent too bad.like to sey eye in katakana.like sasukes eye is about to be taken by itachi.eye = ai or in katakana アイ.once you get the pronouniation down everything falls into place.i know a few kanji,even though learning it is fun and im always eager to learn something new.i want to do it right and not get a head of my self.i found a really good kanji book on the site.but until i learn a lot of words in hiragana and katakana i will not move on to kani.i know 4 kanji.how to write big,small,tree, and wood.

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    I hope Gaara still has his control over sand though.

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    And hopefully his insomnia is gone lol

  • rj said:

    if that spoiler ive read is true, why then madara, seems take it easy on his brother?…if kiyo sharingan is true, it will still hold that user must have enough chakra to let it function…and if this kind of sharingan will have its twisted revenge, the user must be stressed and exhausted, how then will it be possible?
    if kiyo sharingan is the rival of rinnegan then it must be powerful, and its more than amaterasu, how did the jutsu of itachi used against him?
    this is my view about this spoiler, its…..FAKE!!!

  • rj said:

    My opinion regarding the next chapter is that, itachis true nature isnt that bad, i know his concern…its his brother…maybe there is another reason why he didnt kill sasuke…we know that kishi will not allow sasuke to perish and defeated…looking through the condition of sasuke, i doubt he has still valuable moves. And with the given scenario, itachi has the control of the winning fate. the only way to reconcile this, is to think that itachi has still brotherly heart to sasuke…that he has no plan to kill sasuke…that he has another plans to let sasuke live

  • Siskin said:

    krazelicens,
    I believe the 3rd Kazekage was the one to use the Iron sand and that’s the kage that Sasori made into a pupet and that’s why he was able to use the iron sand.

    The Iron sand was said to have originated from Shikaku and somehow the 3rd hokage got the ability to use it and Shikaku never seemed to use it after that? something like that… Garaa definitely never used the iron sand. I think it was a secret stolen with the 3rd Kazekage.

    And you have to go to the bottom of the page to see the stuff I was talking about. So, in essence it wasn’t fake if you went past the fake stuff. But it seems as though some other people posted the spoilers as well.

  • Siskin said:

    I agree with you rj about Itachi not being that bad.
    did you notice

    *spoiler!!!!!!!!

    that itachi taps Sasuke on the head. The kid that was reading it thought he missed his eye.. but if you look back in the manga it’s Itachi’s way of showing Sasuke he cares… The real battle was to lure out Orochimaru and that’s why he says “the real battle starts now” in chapter 392 after Orochimaru appears. And some spoilers say that Itachi attempts to attack Zetsu although that may or may not be true.

  • Shino Aburame said:

    First of all, Siskin I thoroughly enjoy your avatar.
    I believe i wrote a blog on something possibly living in Sasuke and it turns out that i was right, only i thought that it might be Kyuubi’s light side, but hey it is still a tailed beast right? Haha. Orochimaru got pwned!!!

  • Shadow Myst said:

    long time no talk, so this was a decent chapter in my opinion….we learned that Orochimaru is still popping up, and most likely won’t be seen inside of Sasuke again, but I could be wrong. Also, Sasuke still has his cursed seal, it was given to him by Orochimaru, however it is from (I’m thinking) Jugo’s genetics that cause the cursed seal to take affect. I expect good things to come from the next chapter, I see the end of the Sasuke battle, and then we will either see the Suigetsu and Kisame battle, or (because it hasn’t been shown for awhile) the Naruto Tobi battle. As long as Sasuke doesn’t die, I won’t be disappointed with the series, even if I am disappointed, I still want to see what happens to Naruto at the end of this, would make it interesting if he lost his friend he has been fighting for (Sasuke, I’d be upset, but what would Naruto do?).

  • Shadow Myst said:

    ….and I am still a newbie….lol, so depressing, I need to get on more

  • Shadow Myst said:

    Well just read a SPOILER…………………..it is most likely not true, but the pics are from a manga, and it looks authentic…………………….so if you don’t want to know about the SPOILER do not read the rest of this post, and if you comment about this post, make sure you write SPOILER at the top of the comment so we don’t ruin everything for someone else. It appears from the images, and from what had occurred Itatchi, weakened from the battle and the use of high lvl jutsu’s, collapses on the ground only after instead of taking Sasuke’s eye he flicks his forehead (same as back when Sasuke and Itatchi were loving brothers, well in Sasuke’s mind). Which leaves Sasuke still awake, and alive, on another “spoiler” I read about it said something about a white snake escaping after Susanoo, however, I read this in an alternate spoiler, which leads me to believe that 5 with the pics and the same vague outlook on the chapter without detail are correct. While the “detailed” one, is most likely only partially true.

  • Shadow Myst said:

    so how many comments exactly is needed to no longer be a newbie???

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    first of all that youtube video about chapter 393 sucks, here is a better version of it .. http://www.naruto-xx.blogspot.com/

    and Itachi didnt fight Sasuke because he wanted Sasukes eyes, he wanted Orochimaru, but as we see (a snake escaped) .. Orochimaru found a way out from the eternal genjutsu so Itachi failed his mission because his eyes were to weak from the beginning in this fight ..AS I SAY FOR THE 3394 MILLION TIME, Itachi needs to wait til Sasuke got MS (MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN) if he wants to get EMS (ETERNAL/PERMAMENT SHARINGAN) .. have you got it ? ..Or maybe he just need his brother normal sharingan eyes, but damnit .. chapter 393 sucks, i wanted Sasuke to have the KIYO-SHARINGAN and i have heard KIYO-SHARINGAN before .. black, 4 dots and surrounded by fire. And KIYO-Sharingan is closest to the true Demonic Sharingan blood.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    by the way, It’s Madaras Eye on my avatar :D

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Tensai-Teki I’m from Greece.I believe that Itachi is good too.Maybe Madara forced him to kill his clan or maybe Madara did it.And Itachi made up the whole thing because he was feeling guilty for helping Madara and he didn’t want to kill Sasuke.Even if he was bad he coulden’t prodict what will happen to his brother.I mean if Sasuke survives.And he couldn’t prodict that Sasuke won’t be killed{just a theory}.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Oh by the way Siskin i love your avatar.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    If the spoilers anaujiram posted were correct, then it appears Sasuke has his victory. Not quite as glorious as the one with the Kiyo-Sharingan, but his victory none the less. And im not so sure itachi didn’t take sasuke’s eyes and instead flicked his forehead because he was a good guy, but because he just didn’t have enough left in him to remove both eyes, and transplant them into himself. i mean he was weezing out blood from every hole in his body lol, and on the verge of death. but who knows, there’s a bunch of questions raised once again in this chapter, (if the spoilers are true lol)

  • ssj sasuke said:

    something just dawned upon me. It is about sasuke and his 2 senseis. First look at the three teams of “orochimaru, jaraiya, tsunade,” “kakashi, obito, rin,” then “sasuke, naruto, sakura.” Each team relates to eachother just in a different generation. Each has the talented prodigy that is given the most attention from their sensei, then the knuckle head that struggles to keep up, and finally the medical female, who usually ignores the knuckle head who likes her, and is head-over-heels for the prodigy. In the oldest team, oro-jaraiya-tsunade, the talented student the worst case scenario happens, where he flees the village and is a S-Ranked criminal, next is Kakashi-Obito-Rin, where in the talented students case, things turn out for the better. He has become one of, if not the most, talented ninja in the village at this point and is highly regarded among the village. This brings us to the newest, and most focused on generation. Sasuke, the talent of his team, is the experimental if you will. I think his trials between his two sensei’s and the events that occur in the story lead him toward the path of one sensei and some events lead him toward the path of the other. I think we will have to wait until the end of the manga to see whose path he ultimately walks.

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    anajiram you beat me to the punch.i was going to post the same thing.but it’d be really silly of me to do so since you have already done so.why is itachis eye still bleeding.is if from amaterasu still or from susanoo.itachi got cut with a shuriken,had his tsukiyomi broken and,and got hit with kirin(which he blocked).he used amaterasu twice and used tsukiuomi on top of his already diminishing eye sight.if those spoilers are true then why is itachi on the ground ? how much damage did those attacks do ?is he just out of chakra like neji was against naruto ? but based on our commentator zetsu that susanoo is accompanied by a fairly high risk ? what risk ? is it more dangerous than tsukiyomi and amaterasu ? i would say so since he has only used it twice ! i wonder what kind of role did orochimaru play in this ?i mean how did he break out and did it have an effect on itachi kind of like when sasuke broke out of tsukiyomi ?

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I believe that orochimaru managed to break out because Itachi is weak.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Well, now the question is where orochimaru will go?Is he weak?I think he’ll search for Kabuto but I think that Kabuto won’t be so helpful and he may try to kill orochimaru.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Now he don’t need orochimaru anymore.Maybe I’m wrong but thats what I believe.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    doesn’t

  • Chaos said:

    Sephiroth…..no…..man, Orochimaru is in a deep Genjutsu (like a commatose state) . He isn’t going nowhere……for now >:) .

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    If the thing about the white snake is true then who or what is that snake?

  • Chaos said:

    ….and Kabuto….idk, i don’t think he likes Orochimaru that much. I think he’s been under Oro’s service all these years, because he , just like Sasuke and Orochimaru, wants to know and master more jutsu’s. I don’t know what purpose he has …. (until a few months ago I thought it was only to pursue Orochimaru like a brainwashed minion)…..but the plot thickens…….

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I hope he won’t escape int the next chapter.Enough.I WANT OROCHIMARU DEAD!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Yeah you ‘re right.I would like to know what Kabuto’s next move will be.WHAT IF HE KILLS TSUNADE?

  • Chaos said:

    Anaujiram, thnx for the spoiler, i kinda forgot to search for spoilers, don’t really have teh time :P

    Susanoo is supposed to be one of “the three sacred treasures”…..hmmm maybe this helps………… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Regalia_of_Japan

    Now….Itachi just suddenly collapses… Next chapter ” sasuke’s victory” …. :| :| :| …… ok now i deserve an explanation

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    If a war starts at Konoha who are its defenders?I mean who can stand against Akatsuki members.I think they will be Shikamaru and his team and team Gai and maybe Kakashi’s team will return.{No.Please team Kakashi save Sasuke}

  • Chaos said:

    Well if that spoiler might actually be true…..END of the Road for you, Itachi, i guess it wasn’t your destiny after all to obtain EMS ( i sound like Neji again) …. at first i thought this battle closed so sudden ….. the beginning was promising , the first part was kinda boring, but still, it introduced us to a new dimension of the Uchiha’s power….. then Sasuke and Itachi just showed off , but it showed us how much powerful they are, then Johnny appeared ( i mean Orochimaru :P ) …. Oro got sealed….. and in the script Sasuke throws a couple of kunai’s and Itachi faints(or dies) ’cause he lacked enough power to defeat his brother …. oh well, probably the next chapter tells us why Itachi collapsed…. and well Madara’s reaction.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I hope you are right Chaos.Too many questions.Kishi please give us the next chapter!

  • Chaos said:

    I can’t wait to see Madara’s……Tobi’s….. reaction …..

    The anime adaptation of this fight will probably satisfy those of you that thought this fight was boring.

    and….Sephiroth….man, why would there be a war in Konoha now….but yep it’ll be Shikamaru & CO. ,team Gai, Tsunade, some other Chunins and Jounin’s … and of course the Kazekage (an his family) and some sand nin’s will step on in and help, ’cause Naruto’s team, and Chyio saved Gaara’s butt…and i guest both the villages have an alliance or sumthin’

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Look where Tobi’s face is and the background.Its a theory.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Basicly its not my theory.It’s Bob’s(Toilet-kun).Am i right Bob (Toilet-kun)?

  • Sothe said:

    Seph kabuto will NEVER kill tsuande, id like 2 bet shes been learning alot of konoho jutsu, and she spends alot of time reading, plus i mean. shes tsuande….shes amazing! ^^

  • arex said:

    That three sacred treasures thing, I’ve been playing with that theory myself. There was the Kusanagi no Tsurugi(the sword), some mirror, and a necklace which closely resembles the one worn by the founder of Ninjutsu(refer to the Jiraiya teaching Pein chapters) It shows a shadow with a necklace representing a flashback to the first guy with the Rinnegan.
    If that were that case it would seem Naruto is reflecting Harry Potter even more so. Orochi=Voldemort, Three Deathly Hallows=Three Sacred Objects, Jiraiya/Third Hokage=Dumbledore, Harry, Ron, Hermione/Naruto, Sasuke, Sakura.
    Lots of connections can be made. The whole villain connection is the strongest.
    And if the Uchiha hold the Kusanagi, and the Rinnegan holds the necklace, it would only make sense that the third eye technique holds the mirror, meaning that the Byakugan would have that.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    Seph damnit , Tobi is fighting Kakashi and Naruto he’s not in Konoha and by the way, it’s not Konoha in the background its the town there Pein hides ..
    And Arex i think you are right about the theory about the sacred treasures..And if Madara is Tobi as you all think, it’s just Madaras SOUL inside Tobi BODY .. because Tsunade and Orochimaru can make a dont get older technique and Madara is an immortal so he maybe got a technique that gives him eternal life, because he lived long before Kakashi, he lived when the first hokage and second hokage lived, and he beated the cap out of them too, like 1 punch broke the first hokages armor.. thats strong guys, plus his eternal mangekyou and hes the first with Sharingan, and his father is the Tengu demon and his mother is a girl from hyuuga, so Madara isnt someone you should try to play with .. :D

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    damnit, give me the rank: (Missing NIN!)
    mohahah plz ? ^^

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    and by the way, why dont we all start to talk about Nagato (Pein) who his real identity is? :P
    Because none of the body that fights Jirayia is Peins real body .. just some bodies he found, and one of the bodies is from his friend Yahiko.. damnit i dont understand how Pein could kill his best friend Yahiko, Pein saved Yahikos life from a Jounin or something when they were childs (ninja academy ranked) ..

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    Wait if there was a kiyo sharingan Madara/Tobi would know about it.

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    Though its sounds cool If it is real I hope this ends it.

  • krazelicens said:

    Kubuto almost killed Tsunade. It was the whole confrontation decision with Orohimaru. But, at that that time, she was less motivated and wanted her brother and boyfriend to come back from the dead. I think after she saw that her brother and boyfriend were just like Naruto, she knew she had to become the Hokage. And with that motivation she turned the tides of the battle, and is now more capable to beat Kabuto with out even trying. And I also think she’s been learning a lot of new justsus.

  • krazelicens said:

    Maybe be Nagato(Pein) killed his best friend to obtain form of the rinnegan, it could just the same way to get MS.
    Oh, and was it ever mentioned why Nagato changed is name to Pein?

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    lol krazelicens Pein already had Rinnegan when he killed Yahiko .. dude read the old manga :P
    and read my last comment 1 more time “Pein saved Yahiko” . when your academy ranked you shouldnt be able to kill a jounin but Pein(nagato) did , that mean the Rinnegan is way to powerful. not even Madara has a chance i think, but madara is much stronger than anyone in Konoha is now .. Pein and Madara on same side , guys watch out damnit.. DAMNIT i forgot like half of everything i was reading before, but now i forgot the site -.-

    FFS damn my memory really fucking suck :(
    but everyone can just fuck off because “naruto will be the greatest shinobi/ninja ever” and he is the Destined child not Pein(Nagato) , so as we know , NARUTO WILL PWN THEM ALL!!!!!!!
    I can’t imagine that but he will do ..

  • krazelicens said:

    whoops! i did read that manga. i just misread what you posted. my bad.

  • krazelicens said:

    I think when read “i dont understand how Pein could kill his best friend Yahiko” is what i misunderstood.

  • Chaos said:

    “damnit i dont understand how Pein could kill his best friend Yahiko, Pein saved Yahikos life from a Jounin or something when they were childs (ninja academy ranked) ..”

    um….. i think i posted this on a blog about a month or two….Power corrupts even the noblest of souls ( well, some of them remain good even if they have power, but…..)
    So Pein, just like Itachi, in front of an even more powerful power/technique/jutsu/whateva’ ….that he could unlock steps up for the oportunity. Each villain has his own goal … Pein’s goal was to become “the God of Amegakure”

    ….feel free to contradict…..we’re here to discuss what’s more plausible :D

  • krazelicens said:

    So Pein did kill Yahiko, even though he saved him when they were children?

  • Chaos said:

    well, i think Yahiko’s body is in “the Six Paths of Pein”…. i think….i didn’t pay 2 much attention there. And “the 6 Paths of Pein” is one of the best techniques in the Naruto world. AND in case your wondering he might’ve killed Yahiko because he has a special ability to control weather…..especially rain, which makes it impossible for the enemy to infiltrate Amegakure by stealth…..

  • Chaos said:

    Yahiko was a sworn protector of Amegakure, he would’ve protected his village with his life……and what if he sacrificed his body to Nagato, so that Nagato would eventually be an unstoppable Hero (god) of the Amegakure….so that he could protect Amegakure even better, we don’t know yet how Yahiko died (sacrificed oir slaughter)….but to me Yahiko sounds like the kind of person to reach his goals even in death….and in Yahiko’s case it was a noble case gone wrong…..’cause Pein got the taste of power and couldn’t get enough of it. >:)

  • krazelicens said:

    That makes sense. If Pein did kill his best friend just so he was able to use his ability, he must be power hungry.

  • krazelicens said:

    It would be a crazy twist when we find out the real reason Pein has Yahiko’s body as that he sacrificed himself, so that Pein could use his powers to help protect the village.
    And I agree with Chaos, Yahiko’s death would all be in vain if Pein just decided to use his powers for evil right then and there.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I think the sacrifice is a possibility.And the fact that Konan is still with Pein makes the slaughtter less possible don’t you think?But maybe both of them are just hungry for power and they are maniacs.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    If there was a kiyo sharingan Madara/Tobi would know about it.I agree with you Kakashio114.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Anaujiram^ I really think that you deserve the rank you want but you have to wait a bit and keep up the good work.I’m sure in no time the rank will be yours.And the theory about Tobi it isn’t mine.It’s Bob’s and particularly he has two.1About the Konoha war.2A link between Tobi and Madara.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Creepy avatar krazelicens.I like it.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Well, i ll say something but please don’t hit me.Tobi’s hair don’t look like Madara’s.They look like Obito’s.But maybe Madara changed his haircut.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    when Pein was small he was a good person but now, he want everyone in the world to feel the pain he have felt… Like everyone around him died and such like that, And he wanted to protect Konan and Yahiko by his life he told Jirayia but now ? Yahiko is dead, i think Pein freaked out and wanted his incredible power.. but to kill Konan? her ability really sucks against shinobis who can use fire. and i think Pein already know that so, he took the people who had some incredible powers and came up with his “6 paths of PAIN” , His Rinnegan can control all chakra types because each path of Rinnegan controls one chakra type , but he came up with a idea to have 6 different bodies who each have a special chakra type, i mean each of his bodies SUPER techniques is like a bloodline. Yahiko was borned to use RAIN techniques, thats something you can learn just by that, but the bodies can do pretty many and powerful techniques, but the real Pein i think he can PWN his bodies in 1 second. And i wonder who his real identity is , LET ME KNOW KISHI DAMNIT!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I want to know Tobi’s identety.But i need to see it in one of Kishi’s chapters to believe.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I hope that we ‘ll get some answers from the next chapter.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I want to see the battle with Tobi.It must be interesting.If it happens.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    ehm , yeah to know Madaras identity would be cool but PEIN REAL IDENTITY / BODY would be much coooooleR ! ;D

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    and btw Seph, why are you higher rank than me ? I joined some days before you and it seems i know alot more than you ^^

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    but you comment more than me i see , I know Kishi is already done with this Naruto Story or almost, so why doesnt someone upload the rest of the chapters? like 1 chapter each day, ! come on do it guys :P

  • Sharingansasuke said:

    i dont like th fact tht sasuke uses his curse mark in evry battle i meen a big battle i understand but cum on!!

  • Sharingansasuke said:

    y is it tht evr1 has a trump card tht they r forced 2 use in evry battle next comment i clearify

  • Sharingansasuke said:

    Naruto-Fox powers
    Sasuke-Curse Mark,different Chidoris
    Neji-Byakugan
    Itachi-Amaterasu
    Lee-8 gates
    Sakura-Super Human Strength
    Kakashi-Sharingan, Rakari
    Guy-8 gates
    Kiba-Dog transformation
    Akamaru-Kiba Transformation

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    yeah he’s kind of a n00b that Sasuke.
    yeye i want Sasuke to leave the fucking narutoworld, I want Pein and Madara to become the KING / RULER of all !!!!!!!! :D MOHAHA i’m evil ^^

  • Sharingansasuke said:

    Itachi-Sharingan also
    Tsunade-Super Human Strength
    Orochimaru-Kusunagi blade,Manda summon
    Jaraiya-Frog summoning
    Naruto-Gamabunta Summoning
    Kabuto-chakra scalpel
    Gaara-1 tail transformation

  • krazelicens said:

    the most likely reason Sasuke uses cursed mark, is that it gives him more power, and all he cares about is having a lot of power, and winning. Also, killing Itachi. And yes, i also agree he should only use it in big battles.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    sharingan sasuke, your just listing what they are good at. they use it because most of the battles they are in, have high steaks. usually life or death. in the past fights sasuke was in, he needed to win at all costs, (orochimaru, diedara, itachi,) if my life was on the line and i had the cursed seal, i’d use it too. when he fights, and he knows he doesn’t need it, like with naruto , yamato and all them in the renunion episode, he didn’t use it. they just use that stuff, because Naruto is filled with plenty of intricate characters that we only get to see a limited amount of fights for each, therefore, most fights we see them in are very serious ones where they need their big jutsus

  • Mart said:

    for the pein body mystery you should examine the clue kishi gave us just before jariya died (not random nubers) the one where all of those nija were jariya’s past opponents also pein can master all/any jutsu as jariya stated.

    Also I want to post a blog how do I do so?

  • ssj sasuke said:

    say hypathetically that sasuke did defeat itachi in their battle, and in the future he beats madara. at this point i believe no one ninja in kanoha can defeat him, therefore making him the strongest ninja. with his ambitions of revenge aside, and if Tsunade were to somehow perish, do you think he would make for a good hokage. the position is suppose to go to the strongest ninja in the village, and if sasuke did return after his revenge, that would be him. he is deffinately smart enough, strong enough, and is for sure a better candidate than naruto at this point. he is level headed, and with his revenge over, would probably make room in his heart to rekindle those ties he once cut and learn to love his companions and the people again. so do you think he’d make a good hokage?

  • Shadow Myst said:

    I just don’t want to be a damn newbie anymore!!!! Anyhow, I am still sticking to my original thoughts on what the final battle will look like. Sasuke will be fighting Tobi and we’ll be seeing some very high lvl jutsu’s, Naruto will be fighting Pein and because of Shadow Clone Naruto can make it a one on one with all of them. Then of course, after Naruto and Sasuke defeat Tobi and Pein, they will most likely fight each other to see who is better, and of course, Naruto will come out on top because he grew stronger through bonds with friends and Sasuke will lose cause he only had bonds with hatred. Which will most likely also lead into a Kyuubi and Orochimaru Hydra battle of Giant Monsters (Kinda like the Gaara fight, given this is all my opinion and what I see going down in my head, plus this is how most animes similar to this one play out), and then over come their power’s to have a one on one battle to the end with nothing but themselves and enough power to only use their favorite moves. So over all, everyone can come up with anything for an ending, we’ll just have to wait, but the build up is what makes the end interesting.

  • Shadow Myst said:

    SSJ Sasuke, that is a very good point and question there, however I would have to disagree with you. Given, yes, Sasuke would be a perfect candidate for Hokage on those lvls, but I am sure by the time Naruto and Sasuke meet again, Naruto will be learning the move Sasuke uses that was used by Naturo’s father, body flicker. This will, of course not give Naruto the upper hand on Sasuke, since he uses this already, but it will bring Naruto closer to that lvl. I don’t believe that Sasuke would make a good Hokage mainly because he has no compassion. This is something he never really showed, he is colder, constantly, he only showed compassion toward Naruto because he considered him his closest friend. Naruto’s personality, and ability to push himself for a win will make him the over all better candidate. This is just my opinion, and I am sure I messed something up in there, so feel free to jump on me, lol.

  • Shadow Myst said:

    So how do I know how many comments I have made and how many more I will need to go in order to not be a newbie, seriously I hate that word!!!

  • ssj sasuke said:

    your takin this rank thing too seriously man. in all honesty, nobody cares about your rank when considering what you have to say, or at least i don’t. it just proves how long you’ve been part of this site and how often you voice your opinion. don’t worry about it, and it’ll change eventually anyways.

    -and i don’t think there is a way to tell how many comments you have.

  • krazelicens said:

    Shadow Myst, I too was a newbie just earlier today, and i just opened an account yesterday. I don’t think I made a lot comments.

  • ssj sasuke said:

    ahahahha lmao

  • krazelicens said:

    what’s so funny?

  • Mart said:

    your taking the rank thing way to seriously and if it matters that much submit a blog to bob and if it’s good enough he’ll post it and allow you to chose your name Ex. his is currently (Toilet-kun) where yours says newbie

  • ssj sasuke said:

    what you said was basically a slap in the face. i know you didnt mean it to be, but idk it was just funny. ahaha

  • Shadow Myst said:

    omg, how did you seriously just sign up yesterday, when I have been here for awhile and already a rookie, now I seriously feel worthless, lol. Anyhow, back to the naruto subject, what day in April is the Naruto Movie 4 going to be on DVD so I can finally see it. Every time I tried to get it so far everything was fake, and yes I use bittorrent, I’ve been looking for the bootleg video camera in the theater but NO one puts that up either.

  • krazelicens said:

    my correction 3 days. but i still havent been on long.

  • shatterstar said:

    ….is the 7 shinobi shordsmen of the mist wield a kusanagi blade???

  • Shadow Myst said:

    that just makes me sad…..lol

  • Shadow Myst said:

    off subject, this new South Park is hilarious!!!!

  • ssj sasuke said:

    ahaha im watching it too

  • Shadow Myst said:

    Finally a rookie!!!!!!!

  • arex said:

    Bah, the rank thing seems pretty pointless. I’ve been around for 2-3 weeks now, you don’t see me that complaining that people who joined after I did have passed me. It’s kinda irksome, but seriously, what’s more annoying is people who post little bits after little bits after little bits(like 4+ times). I just annoys the heck out of me that a bunch of little 1-2 sentence blurbs allow you to progress faster than long thought out theories and ideas paced throughout the blog(s).
    But anywhoo, back to something completely relevant to Naruto. I’m glad someone liked one of my ideas finally, I guess I’m just a loser like that because I thrive on feedback and active discussion of ideas that pertain to something I suggest. I really believe the three sacred objects will play a role…why else would Kishi have highlighted the only the eyes and necklace of the first Rinnegan user otherwise? Or even if it isn’t the three sacred objects, we know that necklace needs to have some significance. Typically clues become glaringly obvious once they become relevant to the story line.
    In reflection on how the whole plot of Shippuuden has sequenced so far. I have to say that there is no way the Tobi that Naruto is facing right now could be the real one or at least it won’t be the final battle. Currently he is traveling with Team Kurenai. So far in each one of the Shippuuden arcs, Naruto has traveled with one of the the rookie nine teams, I doubt that the final battle would conclude with just Team KuraNaru. I feel that they will return to Konoha once again before the final conclusion. Or most likely, the final battle will be fought in Konoha itself.

  • rj said:

    I read the spoiler, seems kiyo sharingan most likely true, but its entirely false that sasuke can use it to defeat itachi…all jutsu need chakra to activate even if its a clan ability…and sharingan even in its simple function can weaken the body of the user…kiyo sharingan is a high level form of sharingan that can rival even the ability of rinnegan…this only proves that using it draws lot of chakra…sasuke in his state now has the possibility to develop this kind of sharingan, but its a suicide, when he will use it…

    Orochimaru was sealed…if you analyzed the manga, he is not concern about the damage brought by the sword of susano, he thought it is just a normal injury, only to find out that this sword was the sword he long to find all through his life…its too late for him to dodge, and think of way out since sword ability is to seal the opponent in an eternal genjutsu…so really the spoiler is undeniably false

    regarding itachi losing power and collapses, for me its not true, why? itachi in his way of conversing, he already planned his actions beforehand, the same way sasuke did before their fight, to prepare and plan out…all actions taken are in accordance to drawing of chakra…yet seems that sasuke’s jutsus used drawn lot of chakra, thats why it was depleted earlier…i dont think itachi has plan of killing sasuke…
    there is another spoiler wherein susano turns to zetsu and attack him…theres a possibility for this…this maybe because itachi all along enters akatsuki organization to know their plans and this time he gathered enough information to all its members…this just a prediction anyway

  • arex said:

    ok what is this thing about comments awaiting moderation? have i been flagged or something?

    twice I’ve posted and this little blurb beneath it says “Your comment awaiting moderation”

    Anyone else get that?

  • arex said:

    Further evidence to support my theory is that the mirror(Yata no kagami) is eight sided, which would tie in with the 8 trigrams of the Byakugan. The mirror also reflects back the inner soul of a person which is one of the abilities Byakugan users seem to have the ability to see.
    On to the Rinnegan and the Jewel/Necklace (Yasakani no magatama). The necklace worn by the first Rinnegan user closely represents the style of this legendary necklace. What’s more is that the necklace on the silhouette has six beads, and I immediately think about the Six paths of Pain/Pein. What’s more, the beads represent Hitodama, or “human spirits”, which might explain why Pein can control those six bodies. Then again there’s always the six chakra types too.
    And the connections between the Kusanagi and Sharingan seem the most glaringly obvious, so I won’t even go into detail there.

  • top ramen said:

    can this soap opera of a fight please end?

    we got it uchiha is strong… i want a new fight/story

    this is getting boring

    and i think naruto will die in the end it all

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Uchihas Uchihas and Uchihas.Enough.Sure it was an interesting battle and we wanted to know more about Itachi but thats enough.There are other things that we want to learn.Pein’s true identity/body.What is happening in the battle between Naruto’s team and Tobi.Kishi we got it you love the Uchiha clan.But please show us something new!!!!!!!!!

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Anaujiram^ i think you must choose.Madara or Pein?I also like your idea{about the ruler/king}.I want Madara to be the king and spread the darkness.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Oh and by the way Madara’s mother was a Hyuuga right?

  • Genda02 said:

    Firstly, am I not reading the mangas properly or something? Why are people still banging on about Tobi being Obito? Doesn’t Pein say that it is actually Madara and Tobi himself?

    I also read that Sasuke loses one eye and then takes Itachi’s eye. Sasuke apparently awakens a new Sharingan called ‘Kiyo’ Sharingan. Kiyo Sharingan is activated when a MS user makes contact with a normal Sharingan users eye. This then causes the 3 dot Sharingan to form into four dots with a flame in the middle.

    Going by someone elses predictions (can’t remember whose) tied in with what Kishi has said in the manga I have thought of this;

    If Tobi is infact Madara’s brother, he may also be the mastermind behind the whole operation. Reason being, if this Kiyo Sharingan is to be true it is more powerful than MS AND, it could be the third and final secret of the Uchiha Clan that Itachi mentioned Madara had discovered. Madara’s brother may have gained/achieved it, but Madara discovered it when he nabbed one of his eyes!

    Only an idea ^_^ ya-tah! lol

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Tobi is not Madara’s brother.

  • Genda02 said:

    Yes, thanks for clearing that up SEPHIROTH13. it was an idea…. :-|

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    Ok … WHAT THE FUCK GUYS? you dont listen to me ? -.-

    I have already talked about Itachi’s plan, About Madara and his brother, MADARAS BROTHER IS DEAD AND HE IS NOT TOBI (OBITO) .. Because Madara killed his brother and took his eyes to achieve EMS .. UNDERSTAND?.. And yes seph, Madaras mother was a Hyuuga.. And yes i really think Kiyo-sharingan exist, because when i first was watching naruto and started to read the manga i find a spoiler site, and i was reading about something called Kiyo-Sharingan (black sharingan with 4 dots and surrounded by flames) .. If Kiyo-sharingan exist, Madara wont be able to get it , because he already got MS and EMS .. to achieve Kiyo you need to have the regular sharingan.. And Genda02, Itachi never takes a eye of Sasuke, Because Itachi needs to plant MS eyes into his extra eye holes.. Madaras brother had MS and Madara had it, then Madara killed him and stole his MS eyes and planted it to get EMS .. And Madara is like Devil himself, He’s the one who seeks power most here in this narutoworld. Itachi is a freak who tries to be the best but he will never get better than Madara, .. But now Pein and Madara is the rulers, because who can beat Pein now ? 1 on 1 ? .. no one can.. Who can beat Madara one on one ? , No one Can !! .. But that Kiyo-Sharingan theory i think its true, and if Sasuke have achieved it , he will be able to pwn the shit out of Madara.. And Pein will lose against Naruto’s Kyuubi because i tihnk Naruto will be able to control his 9 tailed cloak form .. And with 9tails , imagine the fucking freaking power guys :P

    Yeye understand about Madara and his brother, and Itachi’s Plan … Itachi’s plan is just to catch Orochimaru.. end of line ^^

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    haha sorry for using “FUCK FUCK FUCKING , and shit like that” in my comment , Sorry ! :)

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Yeah.I shouldn’t post that sorry.Its your idea.Sorry.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    ehm im just angry about noone listen , but wtf? its just my theory .. sorry guys ..
    but i found chapter 393 :P

    http://www.naruto-xx.blogspot.com/

    Susanoo absorbs the giant snakes, but a white snake escapes.
    Zetsu: What on earth is that jutsu of Itachi’s?
    Itachi keeps coughing.
    Zetsu: This so-called Susanoo is accompanied by a fairly high risk… but since Sasuke’s Sharingan has already been deactivated and Orochimaru’s power has also been removed from him, isn’t it Itachi’s victory then?
    Itachi: Your eyes are mine… I will take them now.

    “cough, cough” Itachi coughes out a lot of blood.
    Zetsu: Huh, what’s going on? Something doesn’t look right.
    Susanoo is vanishing.
    Grabbing this chance, Sasuke throws out a kunai.
    Susanoo blocks it with his remaining physical form.
    Itachi’s eyes keep bleeding, but he continues to advance. Itachi’s slowly approaching!
    Sasuke: Shit!
    He takes out a scroll and throws another kunai but it is blocked by Susanoo with his shield.

    Zetsu: That so-called Susanoo, his shield can bounce back all the attacks. It’s one of the three sacred treasures, the mirror Yamata no Kagami* that is claimed to be capable of bouncing back all the attacks. Together with Totsuka no Tsurugi that’s used in offense, they’re invincible.
    Itachi: My eyes…mine…
    Sasuke hurls out the sword fastened on his waist. Again, it’s blocked by Susanoo.

    *It should be Yata no Kagami, not sure if it’s the spoiler guy’s error though.

    “Guu” Sasuke can’t escape because Susanoo has transformed into a wall.
    Itachi extends his hand towards Sasuke’s eyes. Sasuke’s knees tremble.
    Itachi is mumbling something but it’s inaudible.
    Sasuke:!
    Itachi extends his fingers towards Sasuke’s eyes, but at this very moment he suddenly loses his consciousness. His fingers hit Sasuke’s forehead.
    Sasuke is petrified (figuratively ). Susanoo disappears. Itachi collapses. Zetsu sweats. (xD)Meanwhile, another white snake escapes.
    An abrupt ending for the fight to the death. Why? Next chapter, Sasuke’s victory.

    Picture Verification: Confirmed
    Script Verification: Confirmed
    Source: forums.narutofan / Manyou.uu1001
    Translation Credits: Yasha

  • Genda02 said:

    Apologies Anaujiram. I don’t have the time or effort to read through every single post to see if someone has previously posted that. Does the manga say he killed his brother and then took his eye or does it just say he took his eye?
    In the spoiler I think it does say that they both lose an eye?

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Yes, the spoiler says that they both lose an eye.I think Madara first took his brother’s eye and and then killed him.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    ehm Madara and his brother obtained MS , but then Madara found out that the more he use MS the more blind he gets, and he almost got blind.. But he found out that by killing his brother and take his eyes he will obtain his light (vision) again .. and by doing that he achieved the EMS (eternal/permament Mangekyou) and by having EMS you get alot more power than the normal MS .. but one thing, if you take your brother eyes to get EMS you dont get your brothers powers , everyone think that but its not true .. you just gain immortality and such like that, but as we know .. Madara is still son to the Tengu Demon and Son to A Hyuuga.. and with a Tengu demon as father and a Hyuuga as mother? dude thats some kind of incredible, .. But i think every uchiha is the same.. but Sharingan comes from byukugan. So maybe Madara isnt so much more powerful than Itachi and the other Uchihas but he have EMS so .. yeye i have forgotten almost everything i was reading .. -.-
    i wanna find that site again damnit !!

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    and by the way, Obito gave one of his sharingan eyes to kakashi as a gift because he was going to die by that rock accident .. So thats the reason why Obito (Tobi) just have one eye..but i cant figure it out how Kakashi just did some concentrate and obtained MS .. ? and his MS is kinda cool, i think Kakashis MS genjutsu is like Susannos eternal genjutsu , because Kakashi did his MS on deidara and Deidara lost his arm ^^
    that ms is kinda powerful, but what about Tobi, he just got one eye (the right one) ..And the right MS eye have the most powerful physical attack or was it the left side? i dont remember what we said about Itachis eyes .. But i dont know how Kakashi can obtain MS just by that, if Kakashi have it , Tobi (Obito) must have it to.. And i dont think Tobi killed Rin or Kakashi ? he “died” in a accident so what the hell is this? achieving MS just by that? :S … yeye we will all get our answers by time :D

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Thats why Itachi gone mad and killed his clan. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7g0miuT6BBk

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    Ehm Itachi and Sasuke loses an eye ? .. maybe maybe .. but yes Madara defeated his brother and took his eyes then killed him or killed him and then took it , but he anyhow took his eyes and Madaras brother is not alive so :P

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    dude , Itachi didnt have the power to kill his whole clan when that happend , I think Madara helped him , because kill every uchiha by himself? .. Madara must have helped him because they werent so weak as we think .. but one thing is clear, Itachi got help to kill them .. I think Madara helped him , because Madara is his teacher, and told Itachi about the secrets .. I think Madara heard about a child who could activate his sharingan when he was in the academy so he wanted that child to be his student and that child is Itachi :P

  • Naruto_Zarachi said:

    I dont think madari or the uchihas r related to the Hyugas. i think that it is a development that they get from having a non-responsive Rinnegan gene that eventualy through a surtain process and started responding in a way that is close to the way the gene became responsive. example is the Hyugas probly had a non-responsive Rinnegan gene and they had started to specialize in tiejutsu primaraly in chakra blocking tiejutsu. but the uchihas were all around good ok at everything so they developed to sharingan that helps them do a little better in all of the fighting fields.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    lol naruto_zarachi read the old mangas.. Madaras was the first with Sharingan , his mother were a Hyuuga and his father the Tengu Demon , enough of that ..

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    And why the fuck am i still a fucking freaking n00b Genin ? .. lol Im MADARA IM THE IMMORTAL im not the nOOb naruto ? :P hes still a genin hahahahahhahahaha what a nOOb :)

  • Naruto_Zarachi said:

    wat manga # is that

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    i forgot .. :/
    because i found a site and it was like this , but everything they talked about how everything started and shit , and it was there i started to know alot :P

    but if you search about it you will find it Zarashi..

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Anaujiram^ is right.

  • Genda02 said:

    THINK Madara helped him? He did, it even says in the manga….
    Anaujiram, I read the same thing about the Sharingan being a spawn of Demon blood and a Hyuuga woman. The Tengu Demon disguised himself as a humon to mate with this woman so he could create a container for himself with new powers. Madara soon found this out and tried to defeat his father but couldn’t. The best he could do was seek power from elsewhere (can’t quite remember where) and seal him in an alternate dimension. And only three MS users can free him…

  • Naruto_Zarachi said:

    hmmm i need to find this hidden manga and read it. i dont no how i could have missed 1.

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Maybe you must try to use the word f********.I’m kiding.

  • Naruto_Zarachi said:

    but u have to admit if madari didnt get his power from a demon and hyuga my therie was next in line.

  • Genda02 said:

    Sorry, I didn’t make that clear. When Madara was born, he soon found out that he was just his father’s container

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    Genda02 that was exactly what i was reading , tell me the site or the manga ? plz i forgot :P
    And yes Madara tried to beat his father when he found out that he was just a container , and he tried to get some power from the kyuubi but the kyuubi just gave him alittle, but Madara was no match for his father anyway, the Tengu Demon is way to strong .. and yes Madaras father got sealed in, and Madara needs 3 MS users to unseal him but first he wants to get strong enough to beat him and take his father powers.. am i right Genda02 ? :P

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    and fuck , my avatar is way to big .. -.-

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    thx m8 :D

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Anaujiram^ your avatar seems normal to me.

  • Genda02 said:

    I’ve just realised… this can’t be right because it doesn’t mention Madara’s brother? Well, it does mention the he obtained MS but doesn’t say how. But still, it doesn’t mention a brother AT ALL…. :-S

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    ehm, i found out that Madara and his brother were equal in everything and have equal powers, but then they found out about the MS and they obtained it, then Madara found out that MS made him blind and he killed his brother and took his eyes and achieved EMS .. understand ? :P

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    and byt the way Genda02 , Itachi revealed that Madara is his teacher and learned him everything about mangekyou .. but maybe Itachi killed his whole clan by using Susanoo because he said he had used it 1 time before this fight between sasuke and him .. because to kill a whole clan full of uchihas isnt easy, just because he had mangekyou it would be hard, .. but with susanoo he maybe did it but if he used Susanoo, Konoha and some other would have felt it and went to the Uchiha town and helped them .. ?

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    I’m just a little chuunin , damnit -.-

  • Genda02 said:

    Doesn’t it say that the 3rd hokage says that there is no way he could have done all the killings by himself though?

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    yes i think so .. Madara helped him because no way Itachi did it , because everyone was killed noone in konoha got to know it because the day after ..and with some MS abilities the whole town would be ash and Konoha would have got some information about it , so i think Madara killed everyone and Itachi killed his family and then waited for sasuke , thats my theory ^^

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    I don’t think that Itachi used Susano to kill his clan.He just got them of guard.And maybe Madara helped him.

  • Genda02 said:

    Cool.
    Well I’ve got to come off here and stop refreshing and posting and get back to work!

    ciao :)

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    Seph yeah Madara helped him , i think i have heard Itachi said it himself or something ..

    Haha okok, byebye Genda02 ^^,

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    and one thing , now when Sasuke left konoha to join Orochimaru and now hes way more powerful and such like that.. He’s ranked “missing nin” , he must have that rank now :P
    and little Naruto is still a genin hahaha omfg , a SUPER GENIN (:
    yeye Madara and Nagato (Pein) is my favourites ! and my idols xD haha (:

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Well I ‘ve said it before.I think Itachi was forced to kill his clan by Madara.And he left Sasuke alive because he couldn’t kill him and he was feeling guilty.Maybe Madara killed the clan and Itachi killed only his family.Its just my theory.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    dude Itachi didnt feel guilty, read that history about uchiha, its on that site Genda02 told us ..
    Itachi just left Sasuke because Itachi want Sasuke to obtain MS , its not about getting EMS for Itachi its getting 3 ms users,but now when he’s almost blind he will try to take Sasukes eyes when Sasuke have MS .. and then he will go and find another MS user .. but as we know , Madara got EMS, Itachi have MS, Kakashi have MS, Tobi have it .. If kakashi has MS tobi must have it too, and Sasuke might have the Kiyo.. so they are already 4 with MS .. but Tobi and Kakashi counts as 1 ms user ..thats my theory :P

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Itachi left Sasuke alive to take his eyes.But he couldn’t predict that Sasuke won’t be killed.It is too risky don’t you think?

  • arex said:

    i really like this whole Tengu demon father and Byakugan mother theory, but where in the manga does it state this as FACT?, not just a good basis for theorizing
    I trust a site like this to translate the manga correctly. But until I see some solid evidence that this whole theory, be it on this site or another credible site, I’m keeping it in the theory bin, along with Tobi=Obito.

  • arex said:

    Just a theory, and i’m willing to accept flames because I’ve already seen flaws myself.
    Itachi used Susanno first on Orochimaru to seal his hand back when Orochimaru tried to take his body the first time.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    Seph, Itachi knew that sasuke would be able to keep himself alive… and Arex, what are you talking about ? the theory about madara is true .. but Itachi used susanoo on Orochimaru to seal his hand ? LOL i say .. The third hokages sealed Orochimarus hand with the Death God technique.. you forgot? it happend when Orochimaru tried to destroy konoha .. and orochimaru killed the third but the third was trying to seal Orochimarus soul but he just sealed his arms .. reread the manga m8 :P

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    FUCKING AVATAR , CHANGE!!!!!!!!!

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    Hey for all of you newer members, I like the enthusiasm but can y’all not post spoilers here in the main blog comments so that people who do not want to see them don’t have to and won’t accidentally read them. Instead, I usually form a forum thread for spoilers and such, like whatever is found on the internet. So in the future please post spoilers in the forum section.

    Thanks.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    okok , didnt know that blog existed.. but ok i will next time dude :P

  • scrubby said:

    What’s up to all newcomers we have to remember to use small “AVATARS” on the blog site so just a warning make them smaller before Bob which is site Overlord will delete u. Just a warning to all who have large avatars.

  • scrubby said:

    Sorry, I meant before Bob come on the site and see you all with large avatars.

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    so i guess everyone including mysel who voted saying that orochimarus appearance was too short… will get to see more.im assuming as the white snake escapes so did orochimaru

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    hey scrubby does bob or someone else re size our gravatars ? i could swear that it was bigger(it met the requirements by not being more than half the width of the comment space).just an observation.i changed mines anywat today so it doesnt affect me

  • mizuki said:

    well, itachi’s done for…
    he’s shown his special move(susanoo) so he will now die. this is a pattern with kishimoto that has gone on since zabuza. after a character shows their “final” form or jutsu their done for. i dont expect him to break it now. you know whats ironic? in the beginning of this fight were complaining that this fight was too short, now their complaning that this fight is too long! i think thats funny.

  • scrubby said:

    Tensai- yours ok :)
    And to answer your question Bob doesn’t resize others avatar so u have to do it yourself.

  • WhiteFangofkonaha said:

    Mizuki u are right kishi has been doing that wtf kishi come on pplz will realize the pattern STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!

  • WhiteFangofkonaha said:

    testing 1 2 3 it should like where the whitefang went after he killed himself xD

  • Naruto_Zarachi said:

    I dont think itachi has truly shown his last trick if so he dam sure wouldnt tell sasuke that even though sasuke cant do shit either

  • WhiteFangofkonaha said:

    nvm kept old pic

  • ssj sasuke said:

    ok first off tensai and sephiroth, very nice new avatars i must say. second off, im thinkin susanoo is deff itachi’s last resort zarachi. what could out do it?

  • naruto abarai said:

    well has anyone tried naruto manga returns yet I hope so because it quite somewhat reliable

  • rj said:

    yeah seems the spoilers are very helpful in predicting whats next, and discussions here is but our own ideas and theories about what will happen next… so spoilers must not be banned here…
    yeah right, we just proceed to private forum when we discuss about spoilers, but we obviously can use them as basis of our discussions here…

    As what we should think, sasuke will prevail…there is no doubt about it…naruto world is a comical world, everything will happen we never expect.. common sense sasuke will loss the fight as what this chapter showed..no chakra, stressed out and no powerful jutsu left in his sleeves, yeah right!!but in this world common sense is simply a genjutsu, in short, an illusion…
    everything is all about writers thoughts, so whether you will agree with or not, sasuke’s victory…100%
    well, i want sasuke and naruto to fight again in their full potential with all powerful jutsus in their sleeves…
    we know naruto will win when this fight comes, but im looking forward how the writer express his thoughts
    long live naruto

  • arex said:

    where in the manga does it say the theory about madara is true? key word…manga, and don’t any of you guys give me links to sites that theorize, proof as in factual evidence, or at least give me the chapter arc this information occurred

    And on a second note Anaujiram, you come to the conclusion I’m a fool way too soon. I’ve read the arc about the third hokage being killed and sealing Orchi’s arms numerous times. I meant when he and Itachi faced off the first time and Itachi severed Orochi’s hand when Orochimaru tried to take over his body. The one with his Akatsuki ring still on it.

    I will admit wholeheartedly I’m a newb when it comes to Naruto. I just don’t like it when people assume I don’t even know the basics, that’s all.

  • Siskin said:

    Anaujiram,
    if you could abstain from using profanity, we have some younger viewers that come through the site and it would be nice if we could keep the blogging clean.
    Arex,
    I don’t think Anaujiram meant anything by the comment. I would suggest you read manga chapter 364 and the specific reference is on page 18. Pein confirms it in chapter 383 page 14 after the battle with Jiraiya. Thus, Tobi is thought to be Madara and Itachi talks about how Akatsuki was made to hide his existence from the world.

    Now, it could be that the mask all Akatsuki members normally wear but everyone hasn’t been putting on their uniform lately. THUS, Tobi is actually a separate character from Madara and Madara uses the fact that there’s another Sharingan user as a look alike to disguise himself. Either that or he’s just really crazy… but bring about a happy go lucky attitude in Akatsuki. anyway… that’s enough theory…

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Mizuki I agree with you.I hope that we’ll see something new in the next chapter.So Siskin Tobi is an Uchiha?I thought Itachi killed them all except Sasuke.But maybe Tobi knew what was going to happen and he left from the town.

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    hehe .. Seph did you forge about Rin,Kakashi and Tobi? :P

  • SEPHIROTH13 said:

    Do you mean Obito?There is a new post about chapter 393.

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    after the snakes get absorbed into the gourd itachi grabs his stomach and zetsu says his it carries some risk.

    after itachi says your eyes will now be mine.ill take them slowly.then his eyes get big,then itachi graps his chest with a babum sound as if hes having a heart attack(mayabe he has some kind of disease like kimimaro OR is entirely the side effects of susanoo ??)then he violently coughs up a load of blood.is itachi ready to kick the bucket ? i believe now he will tell the entire story of how he met madara,how they trained,how he became a member of akatsuki(i mean they showed how deidara became a member and he is a less important character than itachi),i hope that they go into detail of how the uchiha clan got murdered hopefully actually showing madara killing some members besides the shuriken being thrown by unknown people, and the sane killing being shown from the same perspective(sasuke).i really hope that kishi goes into greater detail of these aspects of the naruto verse.if he does i would be the happiest ninja ever.i mean he spent alot of chapters on the jiraiya – pain flashback so why not do the same thing for itachi ?? PLEASE…. PRETTY PLEASE WITH A CHERRY ON TOP !!

  • Anaujiram^ said:

    yes :P .. i know

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    is that the same sephiroth13 who was just a genin or newbie who is from greece ? DUDE YOU ARE ALREADY A CHUNIN LEADER ??well there is your props.i wish i had more time to comment like you.are you really on it at like 6 am.what kind of a time difference is there ??

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    yes u know what ? how did you put the face in ?

  • Wadadli said:

    Just a few stuff to add,

    madara ask the kyuubi to help him defeat his father, he just barely was able to beat him but he didnt have the power to kill him,

    itachi didnt use susanoo on the uchiha clan, reason i think this is because everything was in perfect order , doesnt it trap everything it hit in a genjutsu, so there would be nothing left, no houses, no bodies ,

    orochimarus hand was cut off by itachi, but orochimaru was able to keep the ring,

    what if akatsuki just wanted back the ring from orochimaru, cause the rings hold some special purpose other than fashion jewellery

  • arex said:

    thx siskin, and sorry anaujiram, i was just having a shitty day and probably took it more personally than it was meant to be, and it is true i haven’t finished all the chapters from the beginning of naruto shippuuden up to this point(though I have finished most of them), thus my acting stupid about the Uchiha and demon thing, sorry for being a surly jerk

    It is weird that Orochimaru held onto his old shriveled hand with the ring on it, I’m starting to think all the rings might be required to harness the power of the tailed beasts. However I’m guessing Kabuto has the ring now, as he was the one who stuck around and made use of whatever was left after Orochimaru was “slain”.

  • arex said:

    I hate to say it but i read both of those chapters you were talking about Siskin and don’t see anything pertaining to the Tengu demon and a Hyuga girl spawning the first Sharingan.
    I’ll just read through the remaining chapters to get caught up and hopefully will find out where the talk about the history of the Sharingan.

  • Siskin said:

    the tengu demon and hyuga girl was just a theory. It’s based on the reason why the sharingan is different from the byukugan and Kakashi saying the sharingan is an off shoot during the chunnin exam.

    The chapters I gave you only went to show that Madara Uchiha is still alive. Also, during the massacre of the uchiha clan, Itachi said that if Sasuke could awaken his MS, then he’d be the third one that could use it. So there are three (at least) surviving uchiha’s and then Kakashi has an uchiha eye.

    actually, I went and looked and I didn’t mention anything about tengu. You’ll find some good reading material if you google it. But it’s all theory.

  • Kakashi0114 said:

    If they r related I wonder why the byuakgan does nto have stages like the sharingan,

  • arex said:

    thanks siskin, I appreciate your help, though I never doubted that Madara was still alive in the first place, but luckily i needed to read those chapters closely anyway hehe, I read the research on the Tengu demon too actually, quite compelling and a very good theory, but still only a theory, and that’s all I really hoped to gain from my posts

    theories are not facts until proven so, so I guess all I’m saying is that it bothers me when they’re treated as fact

    recently I did some research on the significance of the Tomoe, it’s actually quite fascinating, it all ties into Shinto legend and the three plains of existence ruled by the three gods

  • Tensai-Teki said:

    are we setting our selves up for disappoinment by saying that madara has only one eye ? i mean just because he wears an eye patch dosnt necissarily mean he has one eye.look at zarachi kenpachi in BLEACH.i thought for sure he only had one eye until ichigo knocked it off in their fight.as far as the madara/tobi thing is concerned.they’er the same person going by two names,im sure madara only wants a few people(pain,itachi,zetsu)to know who he is.i can give an analogy of this.i was talking to my friend in high school(im in college)and he asked me about a boy named hines.im like hines… who is that.but then he was like i probably know him as jason.oh yeah i know who you are talking about.because they are on the football team a majority of peopole call him by his last name.as far as the obito thing im lost.all the tengu stuff is just theory,but they have mentioned in the chunin exams how the uchiha are descendants of the hyuuga.AND their is an un ignorable amount of tenju in the series(WAY TOO MUCH) im learning japanese and have 4 cousins that live there who come home to america 2 a year.besides me using web resources rosetta stone, im taking japanese at the university i atend.and we talk about the shinto(mythology)all the time.now that i think about it i wonder do the other akatsuki members know about the Rinnengan ? im sure they obviously see it but do they really know how powerful it is ?i wonder did orochimaru know about madara being involved ??

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