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Naruto Manga chapter 385 – Secret of the Mangekyou

19 January 2008 294 Comments


Post Author: Bob

An incredible chapter that is full of revelations about the secrets of the Uchiha clan! Surprisingly, Sasuke’s question to Itachi is not about why he killed the entire clan, but who the third surviving Uchiha was. As powerful as his brother is, Sasuke knows that Itachi by himself could not have single-handedly overwhelmed the entire Uchiha military police; he must have had an accomplice, and the third Sharingan user must be that person.

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As many of the regulars have already predicted, the third Sharingan user is indeed Madara Uchiha. He was one of Konoha’s founding fathers and, according to Itachi, was the first person to awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan. Itachi calls Madara his teacher and accomplice, and also claims that he is immortal. By gaining the powers of the Mangekyou, Madara was able to tame the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox, Kyuubi. This was what Sasuke had read on the tablets in the secret meeting room.

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The true purpose of the Sharingan involves obtaining the Mangekyou and being able to tame the most powerful tailed-beast. But such power comes at a high price: from the day the Mangekyou is activated, the user’s eyes slowly begin to go blind – the process is quickened the more the Mangekyou is used. Despite this drawback, Madara used this power to control Kyuubi like it was his personal pet. Jiraiya’s prediction was right, it is now certain that Madara was the one responsible for the attack on Konoha by Kyuubi at the beginning of the Naruto series. Madara’s true motivation behind this act is still unclear at this point – but Minato temporarily stopped his plans when he sealed Kyuubi into his own son, Naruto. But now it seems Madara is back to finish what he started.

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Not surprisingly, Sasuke didn’t really manage to stab Itachi through the chest – it was yet another genjutsu. However, Sasuke claims to be able to see through all of Itachi’s genjutsus, and proves it by launching an attack on the real Itachi with a Chidori blade that just misses his head. Itachi notices that Sasuke still hasn’t achieved the Mangekyou Sharingan, and activates his own to see just how confident Sasuke is about his abilities. As Zetsu observes from hiding, the battle is now being fought purely with genjutsu. Can Sasuke defeat Itachi without his own Mangekyou Sharingan or does he have a trump card up his sleeve?

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294 Comments »

  • DanC1110 said:

    First! Ha!

  • DanC1110 said:

    If Madara really did help Itachi with the Uchiha massacre, then he might have had Obito’s body a lot earlier than we suspected.

  • sasuke rulz said:

    ha second

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    It’s possible that the thrid survivor is Tobi, but that isn’t exactly true. . . He kinda’ got smashed. Could it be Shisui, since there wasn’t any physical evidence of his death? The problem is that it could be anybody, because of the Uchiha’s constant use of Genjutsu! Anybody can fake their death with a Sharingan. /-_-\

  • DanC1110 said:

    Ahh. So there’s a FINAL secret to the Sharingan that only Madara has discovered. That must be the reason he formed Akatsuki. It must have something to do with controlling the other Bijuu as well.

  • Gohosku said:

    thats what i want to know.. what this final secret is. i mean the uchiha clan was madara’s clan he formed it even. But he was willing to destroy it for his plan.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    That could mean that the fight between the First Hokage and Madara was over control of the kyuubi, since they both could handle the spazzy bastard! Huzzah! Things become even more complex! @o@;;

  • scrubby said:

    Well this chapter puts to rest all who was thinking that Sasuke was really fighting Itachi in real time. But it was just like i thought this encounter between Sasuke and Itachi is a time that Itachi can teach him about the true plans of Madara and himself which he is not finished yet. And as u can see Itachi really haven’t any offenive move to try to kill Sasuke and that’s because Madara needs him to live and help them in some kinda way,so i guess we have to hang on until next week to hear more about Madara’s plans.

  • Siskin said:

    I hope Kishi doesn’t cut away to another battle next week. I really hope he doesn’t cover the Kisame snake gang battle… argg….

    Sasuke must have been expecting the MS so he must be ready…
    and I guess that kinda goes to show that Itachi was just a manipulative jerk from the beginning…

  • Gohosku said:

    lol i totally agree.. i have zero desire to see how the kisame/suigetsu fight ends, at least not right now.

    i wonder how kakashi is gunna fall into the picture, cause they dont mention him as being a ms user

  • xxirishman25xx said:

    that is so cool

  • nine tail hokage said:

    i think to get the mankyo shariganis to kill older brother.because shisu was like a older brother to itachi.so sasuke has to kill itachi

  • Siskin said:

    Or… maybe with the revelation that Itachi isn’t who Sasuke thought he was… kinda makes Sasuke have to kill his image of his brother… which will result in releasing the MS. (kinda like the Sharingan appeared during Sasuke’s battle with Haku)

    Did you notice how he wanted to believe that it was all a lie… but now Itachi has confirmed it for him and he’s going to be able to get it.
    That’s my guess but I was wrong about Itachi really getting stabbed in the last chapter.

    And I think it has been confirmed that there are 8 tomoes behind the chair. Kishimoto makes it a point to even draw it behind Sasuke’s head when he’s back there.

  • pain said:

    what is the strongest doujutsu then? ms or rinengan

  • pain said:

    i like this fight and all but after this fight i want to see wat pain does to team 7, since tobi is alredy fighting them i want to see how pain will help cause pain is awesome!!

  • J said:

    And you all know what this chapter really means, don’t you?
    Zetsu’s gonna take over the world, YAY!

  • Dragons said:

    Haha! Even though zetsu hsnt done much he has to be one of the strongest because he was madara/tobi’s boss before tobi joined the akatsuki.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    I dunno’. Zetsu doesn’t seem to have the ability to make serious decisions. How can somebody take over the world if they’re constantly bickering with themself? o_O I just think he’s gonna’ have some horribly grotesque ability to eat people in a creative fashion. xP Blegh.

  • Dragons said:

    hey nine-tailed hokage, thats a good theory and all but i think that sasuke has no chance of beating itachi without the help of the mangekyou

  • Dragons said:

    thats a good point nef.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    What I want to know is when Itachi was prompted to become an evil brother and when? Or could he have just been trained too hard and eventually snapped?

  • J said:

    Don’t underestimate Zetsu! If Kishimoto’s making him so misterious, then he has to be extremly important. Just look at TOM, Itachi & Pain – the more mysterious they are, the stronger they are. So Zetsu has to be very strong.

  • J said:

    Also, Zetsu is a plant & plants can grow very old, so it’s possible Madara & Zetsu go way back.

  • sharingan leader said:

    this chapter is very interesting,zetsu maybe might be even more powerful that itachi, who knows

  • Sothe said:

    Zetsu has been to quiet, i rele wanna see him in action…is he just a spy…surely to be in the biggest criminal oragnisation he has to be awesome…theres not been any akatsuki members that havent nearly kicked everyones ass so far……he should come in soon i think

  • Nameless said:

    Maybe Tobi is in fact Madara, a reincarnated Madara. Perhaps he planned all along to pass his sharingan on to Kakashi for some ultimate purpose. Just a thought.

  • jimmy shoes said:

    perhaps sometime in the future, tobi and kakashi will have a massive fight, tobi gets the upper hand and knocks kakashi out then steals his sharingan and gets someone to transplant it into him and then his original eye becomes a MS eye like the stolen one, seems that the MS is stronger than the normal sharingan…time can only tell

  • jimmy shoes said:

    i don’t think this will be the only fight between itatchi and sasuke, i think itatchi will give him a good beating and tell him to come to him when he gets the MS.

    sasuke is to impatient

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    I think the strongest eye is the rinnegan but the Sharingan is unique among the three doujutsus in that it can be developed beyond its initial use. So i think that the sharingan is the strongest once fully developed out of the 3.

    Also, I noticed that we only see one of Madara’s eyes in every portrayal of him. Be it the statue at the Valley of the End or in this last chapter (his left eye), or as Tobi/Madara where we only see his right eye. Just a thought.

  • Brando said:

    Does any1 here thinking about the seal that Madara made to seal up his is demon father and thats the reason he need the 3rd MS eye.

    Or he can only control 3 tail beast at any giving time so he need 3 MS the make his goals?????????

    not sure give me some insight on this

  • jimmy shoes said:

    hmmm i wonder why madara sent the kyuubi loose on the leaf village.

    perhaps he didnt want anyone to interfere with his grand plan. OR he wanted to re-make the leaf village in his own way maybe???

  • than2x said:

    Yeah.. Sharingan is quite powerful. Rinnegan can’t counter Sharingan’s MS. That’s why it is TOBI/OBITO/MADARA the one giving orders. And PAIN was only a powerful sub.. I also think SASUKE was ready for his brother’s MS. This will be a very good reason for us to wait till the next chapter.

  • Bob said:

    I think Sasuke definitely has something to counter the Mangekyou. He has been very precise in his moves up to this showdown with Itachi, Sasuke wouldn’t rush into it without knowing he can beat Itachi’s Mangekyou.

  • sharingan leader said:

    ahh bob, am i an author im noticing changes.?

  • sharingan leader said:

    also remember bob, remember when itachi was fighting kakashi, itachi told him,”only a person with a kekei genkia and a sharingan can stop the MS.

  • Those Eyes!!!! said:

    I think Sasuke does not want to relie on the MS cuz of the goingblind thing

  • Ikamuzu Oturan said:

    um………. i want to see zetsu just let loose on someone. i think him battling would be sweet. maybe when he goes Nucking Futz, he’ll split into two ppl. Oh crud that would be so awesome. cant wait!

  • Nandou said:

    I think there is no sense in calling tobi TOM anymore, even if he is madara in obito’s body or something like that, he calls himself madara and everybody calls him madara too, so…

  • NSS7 said:

    wow so does that mean the mongekyou sharingan has greater ability then the nine tailed fox, now its the fight between the brothers, each with different abilities, sasuke with his curse mark (can destroy his body) and itachi with the all powerful mongekyou sharingan ( can make him blind) but sasuke also have a sharingan that is keyer then itachi through

  • NSS7 said:

    and yesssssss bob is back into doing manga blogs

  • Uzumaruto said:

    Does it mean that besides Pein there’s another superior than the Kyubi’s power?……. it’s getting better and it seems the fight soon will be really interesting i can’t wait to see this ’till the end.

  • haruto said:

    i hope sasuke and naruto team up again 2 defeat madara and the rest of them but not b4 testing there skills on each other obv. and it would be cool if naruto did a kind of DBZ thing and traind in a kind of time capsule so he could learn more jutsu and learn “THAT JUTSU”. jst a thot

  • haruto said:

    i cant resize my avatar sum1 help me out plz

  • haruto said:

    its cool. got it

  • haruto said:

    i just read the first hokage and madara blog and from this chapter it sounds to me like some1 wants to let the demon sojobo free. again jst a thot

  • MWUHAHAHA said:

    i can’t wait for next week
    XD!!!!!!
    P.S. DoES ANYoNE PLAY FLYFF.

  • naruto kyuubi said:

    we don’t have seen zetsu in action but i think he wil be pretty strong (all the akatsuki are strong) and i think he can split himself just like sakon/ukon but then much stronger

  • The WekZ said:

    The last Uchiha Survivor must Madara Right.
    The Stupid Bastard Uchiha Holy Fuck!!!!!!!!
    All the Uchiha clan members are SHIT, FUCK, AND FUCKING BITCH!!!!!!

  • eli987 said:

    so madara summon nine tailed fox 15 years ago because he wanted to “destroy the world”. but he didn’t succeed and now he wants to try agen by collecting al tailed beasts. but to control them he need MS. By the way does madara have MS i mean we only saw normal sharingan?

  • Ikamuzu Oturan said:

    50!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    who’s yo daddy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    0_0

    now that we got that that’s taken cared of……on to the blog. just to raise so ??’s:

    1. if Uchiha’s are so damn powerful……….why not be “hokage”??? or are all of them to damn evil??

    2. is it a possibility that it is because of the Sharingan that Uchiha Madara is able to live forever??? i mean, the genjutsu IS a world of its own. what if he was able to create a world in genjutsu??

    3. no one really states that Pein is the leader. what if akatsuki is Madara’s doing??

    4. what if trying to awake that Ugly ass statue is actually Madara’s doing?? i mean, if his MS can control the most powerful deamon (Kyuubi that is), then why not have confidence to think that you can control that Ugly ass statue??

    and last, but never the least……

    5. why is the “Uchiha Clan” the main focus of this here “NARUTO” ????? makes no damn sense to me. i mean, “Naruto” has totally neglected its main character. but i guess we could all use a break from the yelling and screaming for a while.

    just some thoughts!!!

    *WARNING* THESE ARE JUST OPINIONS, NOT FACTS.

    and yeah, how come Naruto always comes off as hella defenseless?? i mean he trains do damn hard, and so friggen much, and yet gets his butt kicked a whole 2 episodes before he starts to show some progress!! i mean crap ……………… will he ever just beat the crap outta someone without getting his butt wooped first???

    [inhale] *sigh* [exhale] *ahhhh*

  • J said:

    Ikamuzu, that’s called ‘being the underdog’ – it adds to the drama of story. It’s like Naruto’s signature style.

  • NSS7 said:

    naruto isnt really that stronger……no i mean hes stronge but somebody like kakashi should teach him more tai jutsu speed and other jutsu that could help him but theirs no time to train naruto that long

  • Not the Toad Sage!!! said:

    I thought Madara was the one to seal away sojobo, so why free him???
    What if the capture of the tailed beasts is a plan really started by the sojobo, who is probably possessing and using Madaras body to fool the remaining Uchiha clan???

    Just a Thought!

  • NSS7 said:

    maybe its true
    the other thing im kinda puzzled about is the statue that akatski use to extract demon chakra, everytime a demon gets extracted, a new eye appears, how about the statue becomes alive after all nine demon gets extracted. JUST a thought

  • Not the Toad Sage!!! said:

    To rehash on an old subject,
    If the following mangas wrap up all the loose ends of Naruto, there basically will not be any material left to continue the story will there???
    I ask this because, Naruto, as a character,at this point, basically SUCKS!!! I would like to know that he actually develops into some kind of genius ninja at some point and time!!!!!!!

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Yes. Naruto’s kinda’ lacking in streingth right now, but that just leads right back to the “under dog” theme that Wonderful-J brought up earlier. ^_^ Unlike Sasuke, Sakura, Neji and other crazy fast learning ninja, Naruto is taking more time. To be honest, it just makes him more realistic and people tend to not like that in Anime. XD

  • NSS7 said:

    the thing is naruto still rushes in attacking his enemy and letting his anger take over him

  • pain said:

    nobody answered my f’in questions damnt!!

  • sharingan leader said:

    hey j, what is your avatar? its like a light of somesort.

  • J said:

    It’s Zetsu! With a lightbulb! He just got an idea…

  • NSS7 said:

    sharingan leader, J avatar is a action figure of zetsu and flash light behind him

    Not the Toad Sage!!! , what do you mean by naruto sucks is that he lack the genius as a ninja, but i do believe he will become hokage after the 5th is dead or by the time he is 25 years old

  • NSS7 said:

    man my avatar makes me laugh everytime i look at it !!!!!!

  • NSS7 said:

    im really bored !!!!!!

  • haruto said:

    ok so we r saying naruto suks. ok a get the point that he should have way more jutsu and be like lightning considering who his father is but even now who in konoha could beat naruto even without him going all 4 tails phyico beast.

  • Ikamuzu Oturan said:

    i aint sayin Naruto sucks……..i just wanna see him woop someone’s butt for once without breakin a sweat. like……………….Steven Segul in all his movies…………..just one fight (i really dont care who with) where Naruto just hits a dude like 3, maybe 4, times and its over!! but in a cool way. i dont know, i just want naruto to be cooler than Sasuke for once thats all.

  • SoulCatalyst said:

    the genjutsu wars betwen brothers, just a thought, who says sasuke doesnt have the mangekyou sharingan, maybe for everyone the conditions to unlock it are different

  • NSS7 said:

    sasuke could develope his own mongekyou sharingan like kakashi did

  • Nameless said:

    Naruto is already almost like a genius. Think about it, he was able to do something not even the Fourth (before he died at least) or Kakashi was able to do and developed the RasenShuriken. And he did it in a short amount of time. Sure you might say he “cheated” because he relied on his Kage Bunshins. But if you classify Sasuke, who got to where he is mostly by relying on his sharingan, a genius, then isn’t Naruto also one?

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Naruto using his kagebunshins to create a jutsu is actually a sign of a deeper talent: Multitasking! ^_^ It’s one thing to control six body’s with the Rinnegan, but to control a myriad of clones without any enabling ability is totally different! And wouldn’t you say there are different kinds of geniuses?

  • haruto said:

    i think naruto is and sasuke also rely’s on the curse mark aswell just as naruto rely’s on the kyuubi when things get tough.

  • haruto said:

    i tryed to post a blog do u think it will get posted?

  • sharingan leader said:

    well, maybe what is it about? bob has to look at it first.

  • NSS7 said:

    yeah naruto is a geniuse but mostly naruto only got stronge jutsu

  • NSS7 said:

    all his attacks are short range thats why he didnt stand a chance against deidara

  • sharingan leader said:

    but no genjutsu moves

  • sharingan leader said:

    so he has a weakness for everybody in the whole story.

  • NSS7 said:

    thats what i mean, kakashi or some other powerful sensai should teach him long range attack, genjutsu and more tai jutsu speed

  • Mart said:

    1. I think that the Ms can be used to control the kyubi like saskue controled manda with genjutsu and that Madra used the kyubiis chakra to help him become immortal
    2. I think that because of the raniengans power pein can have multiple bodies through a combination of clone/reanimation/body posesion jutsu. I add the reanimation part because jariya recognizes all of peins bodies as people he has defeated (hence his “attonement”)
    3.All of the kick ass jutsu hurt the user. EX MS, wind rasengan, curse seal, Deidras bombs, the deamon cloak, reincarnation and Tsunades regeneration jutsu

  • NSS7 said:

    where madara by the ways, its so confusing is he tobi or is he hiding smwhere

  • haruto said:

    its about naruto’s jutsu’s. what i think he should learn and some made up jutsu,s that would be cool 4 him.

  • elerium said:

    hi all, really an interesting chapter. But as Nandou said – lets agree on one thing —– Obito IS dead. And thats it! He has a chance to have his name mentioned in the manga only through Kakashi-sensei’s eye. Lets end the TOM theory. It’s just TM – Tobi\Madara.

  • NSS7 said:

    “Mart” the third part you mention, yea those are kick ass jutsu and the 6 pein is like a robot, pein is strange, look like he doesnt have any emotion except to take over the world

  • Naruto Shippuuden said:

    I can’t wait for the next comic of Naruto, it’s going to be pretty awsome. Sasuke reminds me of someone from a differnt anime called the Prince of Tennis. You guys should read the comic of Prince of Tennis it’s a very great anime if you want to read it go to “One Manga.com” there’s other anime comics also.

    ( This is the person that reminds me of Sasuke )

    http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj195/JAKEJAKEJAKE_2008/prof_shiten_hitouji.jpg

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    ;D Elerium, we call him TOM because Tobi could be a totally different person, but it’s still Obito’s body. Why not honor the poor kid that got smashed by a giant rock? ^_^

  • elerium said:

    Nef, im well aware of that. But now we know that Madara really is Madara. I was patiently waiting for at least a smallest hint that Madara used Obitos body, but even this chapter didn’t give anything. Thats why i’m saying – this theory is less likely than the one saying Tsunade is a male shinobi. So officially from now on i will never use TOM abbreviation! Peace ;].

  • NSS7 said:

    “Naruto Shippuuden” i think ill only like it if im into tennis, i dont really like that show and i cant stand watching 1 episode

  • NSS7 said:

    tobi is like three people in one body

  • Elliey-sama said:

    Im Guessing Itachi still holds alot of hidden abilities in his persona but i don’t think he had any help annihilating his entire clan i think he did that himself either way its kind of creepy to imagine Madara been the main villain of the series like Naraku lol but doesn’t show it until later on and i even guessing only someone like Madara would know how to use the Sharingan to 100% that i wouldn’t be surprise if Madara created Orochimaru with his Sharingan lol as well as Taming the Kyuubi’s power or maybe any Tailed Spirit Beast power its both surprising and scary.

    And im probably guessing Tobi can either be Obito brought to life from the dead by Madara himself and put him under a spell or is a creation of Madara himself and acts as his seeing eye dog lol either way theres still so much to know lol.

  • the nine tailed rinnegan said:

    but accoridng to Masashi kishimots interview he said that soemthing big is going to happen to kakeshi sensei and mind u guys that he is in the middle of a fight with tobi

  • Bob said:

    @haruto
    thanks for the blog submission, but it needs some serious spell checker work so I can’t approve it yet. If you didn’t save a copy of your post, I can send you back a copy.

    Man, I feel like such an English teacher, hahaha.

  • sharingan leader said:

    also bob where do you get your hilarious avatars?

  • Bob said:

    I made it myself, all hail the master-avatar-maker!

  • sharingan leader said:

    OMG cool OH no my new avatar didnt show up.

  • NSS7 said:

    bob thats one hilarious avatar, so what you think about mine

  • sharingan leader said:

    what about mine?

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    Mart, that third part about all the best jutsus being detrimental to the user is a good observation. The soul sealing jutsu is also on that list, the one that the 4th and 3rd used (for the kyuubi and against orochimaru).

  • ANBU LEADER P said:

    i knew madara was alive. madara is tobi

  • Ikamuzu Oturan said:

    98…………………

  • Ikamuzu Oturan said:

    99……………………

  • Ikamuzu Oturan said:

    100!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    yeay!!! (okay, so what if i cheated.) so yeah, about the whole “TOM” issue……….everyone can call him whatever: OBITO, TOM, MADARA, hell call him MONKEY FOR CRYIN OUT LOUD……………….. all that matters is that we know that madara is back, but who ever said that he was in the form of Madara??? hell, he could be a girl (*winks to Orochimaru the sick bastard*)

    i just care that Naruto will be cooler than Sasuke ANYDAY. because unlike that back stabbing, good for nothing, revengeaholic AHOLE OF A PERSON…………*breath*………………Naruto will always defend what matters most to him. he will always denfend his friends. and that, TO ME, is cooler than ANY jutsu in all the Naruworlds of all the Naruverse.

  • Those Eyes said:

    i do not think he is going to kill him jus some how Itachi is going to get away wat about the fight with the 2 waterboyz outside . now thoses 2 r out for sum real fun.

  • tiat872 said:

    The question is. If Naruto learns the secret to controlling the kyuubi’s chakra, will he be able to prevent Madara from controlling him when he is possessed by the nine tails power? Because only then will Naruto be able to defeat Madara, Pein.

  • NSS7 said:

    “tiat872″, the only way naruto can controll the kyuubi power is if he got a sharingan, thats how madara was able to control the nine tails power and become imortal

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    “but accoridng to Masashi kishimots interview he said that soemthing big is going to happen to kakeshi sensei and mind u guys that he is in the middle of a fight with tobi”

    Wow i didn’t know anything was going to happen to Kakashi. What if MAdara could actually control other sharingan users…wouldn’t that mean he could also control Kakashi since he has one. The only other thing i could think of is that Kakashi dies, but that’s not too fun.

    The other thing is, why do they need THREE Mangekyo users there’s definetly a secret there but i also believe the three dots of the sharingan may come into play as well…anyhow im very anxious to see what happens to Kakashi

  • NSS7 said:

    yea and that will be kakashi finally see that madara have took his old comrades body but in the end kakashi might get kill for holding back because when he see obito body he will feel all sad and doesnt want to fight back

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    Yeah but i don’t think that he will die i mean he is with 7 other shinobi that are pretty stonrg so….

  • Not the Toad Sage!!! said:

    Ya know….just thinking,
    did we forget about orochimaru and kabuto????
    I mean they were kinda swept under the rug,
    is kabuto fully possessed by orochimaru, or is it possible that orochimaru fooled sasuke into thinking he actually defeated him???

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    In my opinion I don’t think Orochimaru is actually dead cause Orochimaru is supposed to be a saanin so he wouldn’t die without a good/bloody fight. As for Kabuto, wasn’t he replacing his body parts with orochimaru’s or somethin like that…yeah so kabuto is doin some freaky expiriment of his own to brgin back Orochi i think

  • Not the Toad Sage!!! said:

    secondly, I guess you can say Itachi might actually be stronger than Pein, I mean if the sharigan is not actually a human ocular jutsu,
    but a demonic ocular jutsu, wouldn’t that mean that pein might actually be outclassed???

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    Well I don’t really know if you can compare them unless they actually fought cause Pein seems almost invincible wil=th 6 bodies (well 5 now) but Itachi has the sharingan which, as you said, is a demon ocular justu…but who knows, i don’t really think that has too much to do with the story

  • Not the Toad Sage!!! said:

    Thirdly,
    I hope to see Hinata in action soon, she looks like she might have developed some kick ass moves!!!
    God, I hope they do not downplay her too,
    she looks like she could be fierce!!

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    Yay uhhh…no…i don’t really think so, maybe she’ll throw a punch here or there but i don’t think they are trying to focus on her too much

  • NSS7 said:

    madara and itachi is the strongest

  • NSS7 said:

    all the uchiha in the series are mostly the strongest ones

  • NSS7 said:

    wait have anyone seen a longer version of the second naruto shippuden movie. can someone tell me where to find it ??????????

  • haruto said:

    bob could u send it please, i forgot 2 save it.

  • haruto said:

    you no how he said somthing happens to kakashi, well wat if he does get killed but b4 he dies he gives his eye 2 naruto to help him control kyuubi. that would b awsome.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    All I’ve seen for the 2nd Shippuden movie is teaser trailers with Naruto and Sasuke running around in shadowy fog.

    Also, I think the only way for Naruto to defeat Madara/Pein/Sasuke or anybody really is to not rely on his Kyuubi chakra. I mean its pretty clear that while it gives him more strength and abilities, all of the main villains have the means to nutralize it and even use it against him.

    I just had a thought, let me know what ya’ll think. The only Naruto and the Kyuubi are gonna be able to take all of these enemies out is if they completely team up. What i mean to say is that the Uchihas can control the Kyuubi like he is a pet but they can’t control Naruto. So what Naruto and the Kyuubi need to do is have the Kyuubi chakra go past whatever tails they need and the kyuubi allow Naruto to still have conciousness that way the Sharingan can’t control them.

  • NSS7 said:

    maybe but kakashi doesnt have the blood, if he could he would have surpress naruto chakra when naruto was going 2 tail on deidara

  • haruto said:

    yer but remember kakashi doesn’t no that the sharingans full power is to control the kyuubi.

  • NSS7 said:

    i dont get it, he said something going to happen to kakashi but what, maybe madara will take over kakashi body or something or another kashi gaiden would happen

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    Another Kakashi Gaiden would be awesome. Or a series about Kakashi’s whole generation of Leaf Ninja.

  • NSS7 said:

    no im saying a kashi gaiden in the future because kakashi sometimes say he still can read the future with his eyes, but how about he can and a future kakashi gaiden happens

  • NSS7 said:

    i meant cant read the future with his eyes

  • The Village Hidden in Genjutsu said:

    if madara is in obitos body then he only has one sharingan eye…he’s probably gonna pull off some DBZ fusion with kakashi to get the other eye and there you have the 3 sharingan users
    1>TOM+kakashi
    2>Itachi */_\*
    3>Sasuke

    my other theory: Naruto is gonna make a demon-like cloak out of his own chakra and not the kyuubi’s. That way he technically go kyuubi without being controlled by the sharingan

    then he’s gonna summon a toad that even j-sama couldnt summon because he never had enough chakra

  • doujutsu_shinobi12 said:

    Hey jus joined btw…I couldn’t sit out on a discussion like this….I honestly don’t think Sasuke will be able to kill Itachi….and if he somehow does find a way to pull it off then i b kinda upset…I wanna kno what Itachi was wantin to speak to Narut0 bout before he was interrupted. I don’t think the MS is stronger than the Rinnengan…c’mon the Rinnengan was what helped create all the modern jutsu and the other doujutsu techniques…Finally they don’t list Kakashi as being an MS user bcuz nobody outside of team 7 knos…and if they do they’re dead…all of them Itachi, Madara, and Sasuke are completely clueless as to Kakashi’s full power…now if only he had the bloodline along wit the eye…and in what manner did he achieve the MS w/o killin anyone

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    Good point doujutsu_shinobi12 and i think kakashi will use that to his advantage…the fact that no one knows he has it.

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    and i can’t get my avatar to work for some reason, anyone know why by any chance?

  • haruto said:

    u are forgeting deirdra saw kakashi use it. he could have easyly told the other members.

  • than2x said:

    Rinnegan.. no thats not it.. Look im not an Uchiha but if you just in case.. facing the nine-tailed demon Kyuubi then you have Rinnegan.. for sure..you’ll be a dog food.. Think about Sharingan, even at weaker state.. still.. Kyuubi recognized it and acknowledged. Like what happened between Sasuke and Kyuubi inside Naruto’s tought.

  • Kinguzumaki said:

    first of all who did kakashi kill to get the Mangekyo?I think madara may have some kind of orichimoru jutsu to inhabit others body.thats probably where orichimoru got it from cause didnt he use to partners with tobi/madara before he quit the akatsuki.which would make sense cause in 383 tobi stated he couldnt be killed……

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    No Tobi and Orochimaru were never partners at any time cause Orochimaru left way before Tobi even joined…and Kakashi didn’t have to kill anyone to get the Mangekyou cause he’s not an Uchiha so he found his own way…which may mean Sasuke found his own way to obtain it as well…

  • Bob said:

    Oh man, don’t even mention the possibility of Kakashi dying. He’s the coolest ninja there is without even trying. And you just can’t kill off the cool guy ’cause he’s irreplaceable. Also, who’s gonna feed his dogs if Kakashi bites the dust?

  • Kinguzumaki said:

    well theres my theory but anyones who doesnt know go to naruto-arean.com to play your number one naruto online game!

  • Kinguzumaki said:

    wait…. what if madara plan to take tobis body the whole time because he was blind from his frequent use of the Mangekyou and so he can eventually seal it from kakashi so he will have brand new eyes with the mangekyou then he can have control over the tailed beast!

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    well maybe that’s why he needs Ssuke and Itachi, because he needs a “fresh” set of eyes…oh and if there are only three uchihas left and we now know the third is Madara then doesn’t that make Tobi Madara, so can’t we just knock that question out of the way now…

  • NSS7 said:

    i agree, most uchiha are feared by others and also their are others after them as well

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    I must say, it’s not lookin too good for Naruto and the gang. I mean they have to stop Madara, (an immortal that was one of the founding fathers of Konaho), Pein (who has the strongest eye jutsu allowing him to have multiple bodies), Sasuke (who doesn’t really care if he kills any of his former comrades, and one of the strongest in the series), and the rest of Akatsuki (a bunch of S-ranked ninja). If you ask me, there’s no way to stop all of that.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    I like your “fresh set of eyes” idea, Quazzie. It makes sense that Itachi would keep Sasuke alive as a fall-back-one-up-mushroom person.
    Also, another thought: Records show that The First Hokage could control most of the Bijuu, but we now know that Madara had use of the Kyuubi (possibly at the cost of his own eye sight). If The First and Madara got into the equivelant of a summoning-pokemon-battle, Madara could have lost both his eye sight. It would explain how the First won.

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    True, but if Madara is supposedly blind then where is he right now, honestly the only explanation to that is that he has control over another sharingan user (Tobi), or Madara’s sight is slowly coming back (thus the only one eye showin)

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    But all signs point to Tobi being Obito, I mean he wears all those clothes and that is most likey because his body was crushed and he now has one ugly lookin body. And he wears an orange mask, and Obito had orange goggles. Also the hair style and the the fact that only his right eye is showing and that’s Obito’s only good eye.

  • Bob said:

    Another unexplained event was why Madara wanted to slaughter his entire clan. If he indeed needs to possess an Uchiha body such as Obito to remain immortal or to regain his Sharingan eyes, then wouldn’t wiping out his own clan drastically reduce his choices? There must have been another reason why the clan was wiped out, and Itachi’s “testing of his abilities” explanation can’t be the whole story.

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    Yeah I completely agree and also, why the Uchiha clan out of all of Konoha, maybe in order to gain control over the Kyuubi he needed to prove his strength. Also, if Madara was one of the founders of the leaf village and the first Uchiha, then why would he slaughter his entire clan after he worked so hard to start the elite clan

  • NSS7 said:

    maybe he was scared that another uchiha would take him out

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    It might not have necessarily been Madara that wanted the entire clan dead. For the sake of simplifying things, couldn’t Itachi have just wanted to be special? And Itachi gives the impression that he resented his clan for whatever their real purpose is. That easilly could have been his motive.

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    Yes but Madara wouldn’t let Itachi kill the clan he started just so Itachi could feel special

    “It might not have necessarily been Madara that wanted the entire clan dead.”

    That’s why I’m saying the Kyuubi may have required it even though it was against Madara or Itachi’s will.

  • XxXchid0riXxX said:

    I have an idea about why they killed the clan possibly considering to unlock the ms maybe since they said madara was the only one to master the FINAL sharingan power it required him to kill his whole clan…? And the reason he made it seem itachi did it alone was so he could make sasuke want to get the ms. But as for why he needs 3 ms users i am left dumbfounded… but then again they still havent found out about kakashi? Which makes me question even more about the sharingan considering his best friend is already dead (obito) and he still got the ms! *breaths*

  • XxXchid0riXxX said:

    my bad messed up in the beginning what i meant to say was mybe they killed the clan because just like how u need to kill ur best friend for ms maybe u needed to kill the whole sharingan clan for the final power!

  • Ikamuzu Oturan said:

    hello everyone!! welcome all new comers.

    0_0……….wowzers guys……….this is an intense discussion……………….I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

    so, where to begin, where to begin………..

    1.
    Q:Why would Madara kill the whole Uchiha clan if he work so hard to get it built up??
    A: easy!! Cause they were all threats!! anyone with a Sharigan can obtain MS status. so to ensure he had no treats……..KILL’EM ALL!!! i think Itachi was suppose to kill EVERYONE, but didnt kill Sasuke because 1, a part of him still loves Sasuke, and 2, he didnt find him a treat.

    2.
    Q: how can Naruto complete an impossible task list (i.e. kill madara, akatsuki, etc…….)?
    A:simple……………….BECAUSE HE’S MUTHA EFFIN NARUTO DAMMIT!!!!! its called an anime ppl. all Kishimoto has to do is WRITE IT, and it shall be DONE (come on Kishimoto, throw me a friggin bone here).

    3.
    Q:Will Kakashi die?
    A: HE BETTER NOT!!!!!!! you already killed one perv and got away with it, DO NOT KILL KAKASHI!!!!!

    4.
    Q:How can you kill Pein and Madara if they got the most powerful eyes?
    A:easy!!! POKE THAT S***!!!!! all it takes is two fingers!! just, POP, and bam, problem solved! (hahahahahaha……but seriously i dont know!)

    and last, but certainly not least

    5.
    Q:”madara and itachi is the strongest”
    A: O_O…………………….oh-hell-no!!!!!! dont you underestimate UZUMAKI NARUTO!!!! Neji and gaara know that……….all that talk about destiny and weakest person ever……..and look what happened to them. so in case you guys have forgotten, Naruto will always be #1, thats why its called “NARUTO”: not “UCHIHA” , not “SHARIGAN”, but “NARUTO”!!!!

    [crap that was alot of writing. i think i'm done.]

  • Kinguzumaki said:

    maybe theres some secret cause if u think about theres 3 pupels in the mastered sharingan eye and they left sasuke so there’s 3 uchihas left…..

  • Kinguzumaki said:

    so many theroies….dam you masashi kishimoto..first you make me a addict then you make me think..dam you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Kinguzumaki said:

    but beside this topic jiriya died so who is gonna train naruto.i think that messsge left on pa toads back was some sing telling the legendary toad sage if he’s still alive to train naruto

  • Sorinax said:

    i really think that naruto’s father was(is) the greatest ninja because he had fought with the kyuubi without any of those sharingan eyes and sealed the demon. kakashi is, if you think a better ninja than the uchihas because he hasen’t got the bloodline ability, but there he was able to awake his MS, his only weakness is that he lacks in chakra. and finally naruto will be the greatest ninja ever because he has the infinite chakra of the kyuubi and he has got the potential to surpass his father.(we know that from kakashi, who is an inteligent shinobi)

  • naruto kyuubi said:

    nice blog

  • THE NINE BIJUUS said:

    HI

  • THE NINE BIJUUS said:

    The final secret of the Sharingan is either the ability to travel through time, turn immortal and invincible or the ability to copy kekkei genkais(bloodline limits)

  • Yamato-San said:

    If the Mangekyo Sharingan makes the user go blind, did Kakashi notice this because he’s going blind since he activated his version of the Mangekyo?

  • Ikamuzu Oturan said:

    most likely. it makes sense.

  • Siskin said:

    This goes way back to ShikamaruIsTheMan’s comment about old pictures of Madara. I’ve also been thinking maybe there’s something about the fact that he keeps the other eye covered. And now the covered eye is the one he used. Maybe he just had the MS in one eye like Kakashi and was saving the other eye for a rainy day …. There might be something to it though.

    Sasuke didn’t use the chidori on the real Itachi because there still in Genjutsu land because on the next page Zetsu says they haven’t moved.

    The coloring of the picture of Itachi’s MS at the end of the chapter appears in the same color as the flash backs which makes me wonder if it is a flash back and he isn’t really going to use it. But I’m kinda on the fence about that… I guess we’d have to wait until next week.

    Kakashi said last time that only a sharingan user could gaze into the MS. And since Sasuke has the blood line thing going for him maybe it wouldn’t effect him… that much.

    I hope we flash over to Konoha vs. Tobi battle really quick to see that Tobi kicked their butts… I wonder if Tobi will say something about Fighting Naruto’s Father… AND wouldn’t it be interesting because Obito was Minato’s student so it’s that teacher student battle thing again.

    And I’m sure Pein will show up eventually…

    Just don’t show me Kisame Kishimoto!!! That would be a waste of pages in the manga.

  • Newman said:

    Woa When Did Tobi Fight the fourth? He faught the first

  • tiat872 said:

    Ikamuzu. I luv how you put those theories and speculation to rest. LOL. It is what it is. We fans can only speculate and theorize. Kishimoto will reveal all in due course. Finally, Naruto is the Don. Anyways fans keep the theories coming. Its good for the imagination. :)

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    I think we can’t forget how Pein works when fighting. Just as he uses bodies that Jiriaya had faced before, and Jiriaya was by far one of his toughest opponents, so maybe Tobi/Madara is doing the same thing in anticipation to facing Kakashi, who would be the toughest opponent for him out of all the leaf ninja.

  • Siskin said:

    Tobi is madara. Madara unleashed the Kyuubi on Konoha and the 4th battled the kyuubi.

    Why do you think he was late? My guess is that he was battling Madara and Madara had to unleash the Kyuubi because the 4th was so awesome.

    Tobi is also thought to be Obito… think of the set up for Kakashi fighting Obito and also that Minato fought Obito during the Kyuubi Attack.

    That would fit into the student fighting the teacher theme that has reoccurred a few times. It would also make the battle between Kakashi and Tobi that much more emotional besides the fact that Tobi wants to capture Naruto for the Kyuubi. It just adds a whole extra dimension for why things are the way they are in the Naruverse.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    I think it is safe to say that whatever Itachi says, in terms of his beliefs, is the same ideas Madara/Tobi believes seeing as he is Itachi’s teacher and accomplice. So the whole thing about their motive for killing the whole clan can go back to the flashbacks we saw during the NAruto/Sasuke fight. That the clan was weak and pathetic and stuff.

    Also, i was thinking, maybe Tobi/Madara isn’t using Obito’s body but rather is Shisui, Itachi’s friend who “committed Suicide.” I was just rewatching the anime and it said he was known as “Shisui the Mirage,” now doesn’t that sound more like what Tobi does with not being able to be injured or whatever.

  • Siskin said:

    what if…
    tobi=madara=obito=shisui…
    naw… it’s either Shisui or Obito… Tobi can’t be both.

  • NSS7 said:

    its definitly obito because he only got one eye socket

  • Ninetails said:

    Remember Itachi’s words to Sasuke when he saw him after he slaughtered his clan. He wanted to measure the capacity of his ‘container’. Maybe his container is for madara and madara wanted to test his container. Also he said the only thing that would make sparing Sasuke’s life meaningful is if he were to master the mangekyou sharingan. Maybe to be a container you must possess the mangekyou sharingan. Just some thoughts peace

  • I.O. said:

    run in circles all you want ppl, but here are the facts:

    1. Genjutsu is key factor in the Uchiha battle.
    2. No garuntee (although quite obvious) that Tobi is Obito who is taken over by Madara (that’s confusing). but what if, just what if, Kishimoto is like “screw that!!” and makes Tobi someone TOTALLY different?? that would be friggen awsome.
    3. Madara is confirmed (by Itachi’s dumbass) alive.
    4. Naruto is and always will be #1
    5. Kyuubi is like a “pet” to Madara.
    6. the whole “eye jutsu” crap is confusing for all to understand.
    7. Kakashi will NOT pass away due to Ch.11 section 24 in the ‘Naruto Book Of Unwritten Laws’ that states (and i quote): “Only one perverted character in a series can die every 100 manga.” …………….o_o…………..see. its a law!!!
    8. Narutards and Narunerds are indeed VERY intellectual (hell, look at the comments!)
    9. Kisame and that other boy’s (still dont know his name) fight is a “waste of MANGA space”.

    and last, but MOST definently not least

    10. I.O. (formally know as Ikamuzu Oturan) is a very big comment whore. just look at me……..i cant just type “good job” or “way to go”………just gotta spek my mind!!

    ITS OVER!!!!!!!!!!

  • scrubby said:

    Wow everyone got some nice viewpoints ,but i have to still disagree with the TOM theory. But it does make more since for Shisui to have his body to be a host for Madara if he needed a body to do that or just maybe by Madara being merged with kyuubi to fight Sojobo he was able to gain immortality like the Kyuubi and to farther that thought when Naruto and Sasuke battle which is on Tv now Sasuke killed Naruto with a death blow twice once with the Chidori thought the chest and another with a power bomb off the mountain and yet Naruto still lives so in many way Naruto have gain immortality also just as Madara has so that would make Naruto battle against Madara be pretty interesting, but like many has said Naruto is going to have to learn jutsu on his own beside using the Kyuubi chakra as his main source of strenght.

  • guruku said:

    I.O. Lol, I like number 7 of your facts.

    Hello guys, long time reader, first time commenter recently joined. Nice to meet you all.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    The only times we have heard the idea of a container is with Itachi and Orochimaru. Talking about Kimmimaru and Sasuke as his containers. So Ninetails, I think you are definitely on to something there. And also, I don’t think that just because we only ever see Tobi’s right eye means that he is obviously Obito’s body, its a good way of throwing us all of course but it doesn’t mean that he only has one eye, i mean look at Kakashi, he covers his sharingan eye so that he doesn’t have to use it all the time, maybe Madara/Tobi is doing the same cause as we now know that MS can make you go blind. I think it is very possible that Shisui was the container of Madara when he “committed suicide” because they even said that he and Itachi were like brothers (or as we can think of it as mentor/mentee, student/teacher, or accomplices as Itachi says he and Madara are.).

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    Also, Sasuke has yet to kill anybody but Orochimaru, which he didn’t even really do yet. Maybe if/when he kills itachi he will awaken the MS. Just a thought.

  • scrubby said:

    After seeing Shippuuden 43 last weekend and hearing Orochimaru identify the sword he has in his mouth as being a “Kusanagi sword” is more scary to me, because it would surely raise the theory is Orochimaru a Jinchuriki with the Eight-tail beast Orochi inside him which i don’t want to believe? Had anyone noticed that point?

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    Scrubby , in one of oyur comments oyu said… “Sasuke killed Naruto with a death blow twice once with the Chidori thought the chest and another with a power bomb off the mountain and yet Naruto still lives so in many way Naruto have gain immortality…”

    The Kyuubi gives NAruto the ability to heal faster, not neccessarily the abilty to live forever so NAruto can still die it’s just that it’s hard for him to die because he can heal really fats (kinda like Wolverine)

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    And who knows maybe that Sushi guy is the host of Madara and not Obito. It would be a good twist considering most of us have come to a co nclusion that Obito is Tobi. But i still think it would be better if Obito was Tobi/Madara cause then we would get to see a good battle between old friends (Obito and Kakashi) and, it does make the most sense so far.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    Well, the Kusanagi sword is the one that Sasuke uses.

    I went and checked “Kusanagi” out and I came across “Amaterasu” which was the Japanese Sun Goddess and her siblings were Susanoo, the Storm deity, and Tsukuyomi, the Moon deity. I think we already talked about this but it definitely sheds light on the Sharingan. The Amaterasu is the MS ability that Itachi uses to create that “Black Fire” that Jiriaya sealed cause it broke out of the Toad belly. Tsukuyomi is the MS Jutsu that Itachi uses on Sasuke and Kakashi and it always shows a moom and then the sky turns red to signify that Itachi brought the person he is attacking to another dimension.

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    Oh and I.O, your theories are good and everything but they’re too straightforward. I mean everything is just basically “Naruto is #1 and he’s the best”, which is fine but don’t you think he’ll struggle a little trying to face a seemingly unbeatable force. And sure Kishimoto could just wirte it and it will happen but that kinda takes away all of our fun now doesn’t it?

  • scrubby said:

    Well “Quazzie” the reason i think that is that the power bomb blow i think really killed Naruto but by having Kyuubi inside him he was able to comeback to life just like Akatsuki member Hidan was.

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    No because if Naruto dies, and I think this was mentioned before in the series, the Kyuubi would be set free.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    Yeah, naruto can’t really be hurt because even when he is knocked unconscious the Kyuubi takes over and heals him so that he doesn’t die either. So as long as the Kyuubi is allowed to act, Naruto will pretty much never die. I think that is the whole paradox of Naruto, the Kyuubi, and the Uchiha.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    No the Kyuubi would die with him, thats why the Kyuubi “protects” Naruto since he is sealed in Naruto their fates are intertwined.

    I was also thinking about how they said that the Kyuubi was like Madara’s Pet, and history kinda repeated itself. Naruto acts very much like Sasuke’s pet in that he has unflinching loyalty to Sasuke and right now his entire purpose is to “save” Sasuke from evil.

  • scrubby said:

    “Shika” u might have a point with the healing thing but the reason i question that is the point that be immortal is the being able to live forever in any shape or form. And u think about when old lady Chio from the Sand Village was explaining the reason why extracting the bijuu from its host will kill the host because no matter what happens to the host as long as he is bonded with the Bijuu the bijuu will protect him. But she never mention that Gaara can die of old age and the bijuu will be released, plus the old man who had i think 5 tail bijuu inside him it never mention how old he was so that’s just so food for thought?

  • I.O. said:

    Me!!! but i try not to worry about it because Orochimaru is a FREAK!!! so even thinking of him can give you and STD. but seriously, if he is the 8-tailed demon, no way in hell would he have let SasuGAY kill him.

  • scrubby said:

    So u really think Sasuke killed Orochimaru? lol! I think it was part of Orochimaru plan to let Sasuke think he killed him so he could take out more Akatsuki members on his quest to kill Itachi so Orochimaru and Kabuto plan can be fullfilled whatever it is?

  • scrubby said:

    Because u think about the girl Karin who part of Sasuke team was doubting Sasuke’s ability to kill Orochimaru after he struggle with Diedara.

  • I.O. said:

    “Oh and I.O, your theories are good and everything but they’re too straightforward. I mean everything is just basically “Naruto is #1 and he’s the best”, which is fine but don’t you think he’ll struggle a little trying to face a seemingly unbeatable force.”

    see thats just it!! That whole “Impossible Task” list given to Naruto is what drives this anime!! Will he be able to do this?? how is gonna do that?? it is Naruto overcoming the Norms of this anime, and defying the odds that keeps viewers watching. if you kill him, there is no Naruto. he will win. How? well that is exactly why we watch!!!!

  • NSS7 said:

    naruto AND sasuke that drives this show, without one of them the show would be really boring and depressing, naruto is the crazy hyper nukkle head and sasuke his best friend that has a reason to kill is best friend and avenge his whole clan

  • NSS7 said:

    even if orochimaru was to try to take over sasuke body its very unlikely because he tried this attempt on itachi and he fail so he decided to go after sasuke because he werent stronge enough but during 3 years when sasuke goes train with orochimaru, sasuke became to stronge and orochimaru fails to take his body

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    I think Kabutorochimaru will come back after the whole Akutsuki thing blows over or near the end of it and he’ll jump on one side or the other.

    Also I posted some potential spoilers in the Forum part of the site, so check it out

  • paul said:

    i herd that in a major battle, itachi saves sasuke. like he jumps in the way of a mayjor attack…..somthing like that.

  • tensaisakuragi said:

    i think sasuke will overcome the mangekyou sharingan of itachi..i also think that sasuke can’t really kill naruto even if he wants to obtain the mangekyou..

  • NSS7 said:

    no sasuke going to kill naruto and get the mongekyou sharingan and then sakura will bring naruto back to life by offering her life

  • nine@tailed@girl said:

    now we finally know the reason why itachi is going blind but now i wonder who will win this fight? i hope its sasuke and why did madara and itachi killed the entire uchiha clan?

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    Itachi must know that Kakashi had gotten the MS, otherwise how would Kakashi know that Itachi’s eyesite was going downhill. Remember when they fought in the Rescue Gaara Story Arc, Kakashi asked Itachi how bad his eyesite was.

  • tensaisakuragi said:

    i think kakashi got a clue from kisame when they first tried to get naruto in konoha.remember what kisame said to itachi after he used the mangekyou sharingan on kakashi?if i remember correctly, i think he said that the often use of mangekyou sharingan is bad for him.then when itachi and kakashi met during the mission on rescuing gaara, kakashi kinda asked itachi if he was beoming blind.itachi didn’t answer him.you should watch those episodes to see if i’m correct.hehe

  • tensaisakuragi said:

    i think the reason why itachi and madara wiped out the uchiha clan to make sure that there is no one in the clan that can possibly counteract the effects of mangekyou sharingan…plus, the two of them took out the whole clan, which means that if the clan wasn’t wiped out, then there would be a hindrance in accomplishing madara’s goals…

  • Narukashi said:

    if sasuke were to obtain the MS he would have an undoubtable advantage over naruto being able to control the nine-tail and all.

  • tensaisakuragi said:

    hey guys, don’t you think that the reason madara wasn’t able to accomplish his plans during the time of the 1st hokage was because the 1st is capable of defeating him back then?remember what orochimaru said during the recent naruto shippuuden episodes?he said that the 1st hokage was also capable of controlling bijuu’s as if they were his own pet.just as what itachi said madara is capable doing in manga 385.also, the techniques used by the 1st hokage is somewhat unique which means madara is not capable of copying such techniques.

  • Gohosku said:

    Ahhhh so many comments! my main comp is on the fritz so i gotta use this spare for now. Can any1 give me the short version of the last 100 comments in 3 sentences or less LOL?!

  • Ikamuzu Oturan said:

    200!!!!! (something about comments!!!!)

    i just want to say that i love you all!! i seriously do. Naruto is great, the anime is great, the manga is great, the story lines are great. JUST GREAT!!!!

  • Ikamuzu Oturan said:

    oh, to Gohosku…….heres the 4-1-1!!!

    intense discussions on lost of things. but basically there are many speculations about pretty much everything……but here are some key Theories:

    1. Madara’s whole Thing (who he really is, what are his plans, stuff like that!)

    2. The Impossible Task list given to Naruto (Madara the immortal, Pein the Powerful, Itachi the Annoying, Sasuke the Backstabber, etc)

    3. Where and What is Orochimaru (dead? growing in Kabuto? hiding til everything is done?)

    4. The Secrets of the Sharingan (where to begin, where to begin……..MS status, who can get it, does Kakashi got it, does it have its own world……and plenty others )

    5. The connection between Kyuubi, Naruto, and Madara (nuff said!)

    6. Obito/Kakashi reunion? (battle of the friends [sooooooooo anime])

    7. Who Tobi really is (i give up with that).

    ummmm……………………………O_O…………………………..did i miss anything??? oh well, who cares. if i did, then forgive me.

    and sorry for this not being short AT ALL!! i suck at summaries……..hell just look at my comments.!!!

    5.

  • Shino Aburame said:

    Wow, this confirms a few of my theories! So glad I didn’t wait longer to read this…

  • eli987 said:

    wow i can’t belivit that tomorow a new manga is ciming out it’s like just yesterday this manga come out.

  • Sorinax said:

    remember what happened between Itachi and kakashi in the “rescue gaara arc”: Itachi said something like this:”you couldn’t” and then kakashi said that he is never going to fall from the same trick. and then itachi just closed his eyes.that was because he had seen kakashi’s MS. tell me if i’m wrong
    my spelling isn’t so good, in fact is not good at all
    :D

  • NSS7 said:

    YOUR BEYOND wronge Sorinax (jk)
    but i dont get why itachi didnt just use the mongekyou sharingan to battle it out with kakashi MS. everytime itachi does something kakashi is always the one that stops itachi, itachi can just use his MS and get kakashi outta the way

  • scrubby said:

    Well if u 2 are talking about the second meeting between Itachi and Kakashi well that not the real Itachi in was a clone that only had 30% of his power so it wasn’t able to open MS that’s why Kakashi knew it wasn’t the real Itachi because he used the grand fireball when Itachi doesn’t use it because its a basic Uchiha move. Like the first meeting between Itachi and Kakashi Itachi told him he will never be able to beat him because no matter how far he developes his one Sharingan eye ,because he don’t have the bloodline of a Uchiha.

  • Pein said:

    I think the leaf ninjas are going to be beaten badly. Kakashi is going to teleport them all to safety(after found out who’s behind the mask). Then kakashi realize the only way to win this fight is to (sacrfice) give his sharingan eye to Naruto cause he has more charkara to use it. In the same process, Kyuubi can’t be cotrol by other Sharingan users and Naruto can control Kyuubi himself. Just a thought.

  • guruku said:

    Did anyone read any theories about Tengu and the possibilities of tying it with what is currently going on with the Sharingan and the MS?

  • I.O. said:

    yup yup!! scrubby wrote a blog about it!!! AWSOME BLOG!!! its what made Scrubby and author!!! *winks to scrubby*

  • rj said:

    lots of theory,
    a freakin’ theories, what if we’ll just wait!!!
    its naruto, okay? so naruto is the best!!!!
    how dare you to say naruto will be beaten by sasuke!!
    sasuke is freakin stuff, a toppings in a sandwich…
    how can he kill naruto? helllo! wake up
    this anime is for naruto
    sasuke is simply a crap
    if naruto can finish his opponent with help from others, its because he is friendly
    sasuke, seems destroying the character of naruto
    dude, we must support naruto, not sasuke or anyone else!!!!

    I.O, you are great, I do agree with you!!!!
    lets fight naruto’s reputation!

  • rj said:

    naruto is forever a great character, actually
    I hate sasuke, not in any episode i like him
    he is very annoying!!!
    I want him to be defeated by his brother!!!

    to the author, pls kill sasuke in the next chapter so that all of the episode will focus to naruto!!!
    its damn episode, I becoming irritated with
    this not so interesting episode

    return to naruto fight!!!!
    pls pls

    pls

  • THE NINE BIJUUS said:

    SASUKE IS GOING TO DEFEAT ITACHI AND THEN HE WILL SUICIDE WHEN FIGHTING TOBI BECAUSE OF UCHIHA MADARA’S UBER POWERS

  • Not the Toad Sage!!! said:

    ya know that bandage on sasukes head is quite interesting, I think that it might be linked to his
    “ace in the hole” technique!
    You think its possible that like Hiei off yuyuhakusho, sasuke developed a third eye technique or something?????

    Just a Thought!

  • scrubby said:

    thxs for the compliment “I.O.” ,and that was an interesting blog i still believe its going to come into play later on in the series of manga’s.
    Rj- check this out if there was no Sasuke what purpose would Naruto have to get stronger and to strive to be better than? I like Naruto as the Series , but my bone with Naruto is that he doesn’t listens to the people who trys to help him the most and also is one minded instead of open minded u know what i mean ,and also he doesn’t seems to take training serious like other on the series like Neji,Sasuke,Lee and others.

  • Frank White said:

    hey I’m new to commenting but ive been reading along with the comments and such for a while now…I think the only reason that Itachi left saske alive, and told him to come back when he had gotten the mengekyou was so that he could kill saskue and steal his eyes, so that itachi would have a fresh set of eyes that hadnt gone blind from the over use of mengekyou

  • Siskin said:

    maybe itachi can’t turn off his eyes because he stole them from someone else… kinda like Kakashi.

    But that doesn’t make any sense that he would want Sasuke to get the MS because it would just make his eyes harder to take from him. Kakashi was able to level up Obito’s eye so in theory Itachi would also be able to do the same with Sasuke. Good idea frank… but my guess is that the plans for Sasuke haven’t even begun to unfoil for us to make sense of yet.

  • J said:

    Ok, the new anime episode is out RAW, so thatmeans it’ll be out in a few hours subbed at dattebayo.com If anybidy still watches the anime, that is…
    And the spoilers for the new chapter are really strange. Itachi is so out of character.

  • Siskin said:

    This is a link to one of the spoilers

    http://naruto-xx.blogspot.com/2008/01/chapter-386-full-translation-script.html

    If someone has the raw manga maybe we can put it together. But I can’t seem to find the raw manga.

    I also find it troubling the way Itachi is portrayed… It makes sense though. I guess whatever way it ended up… he’s not as mysterious and so we won’t be able to hold him up as being so cool in our imaginations.
    I don’t know if that makes sense… it made sense when I thought it.

  • eli987 said:

    very interesting. well i think that now all makes sense.

  • Gohosku said:

    woo got my comp fixed right in time.

    ya.. itachi finally showed his crazy side and i love it lol. i just hope sasuke can beat him

  • naruto kyuubi said:

    how wil they be able to defeat madara look how he avoid naruto’s rasengan

  • Sorinax said:

    i hope itachi beats the shit out of him and then smash sasuke’s head and take his eyes. =))

  • Sorinax said:

    of course this isn’t going to happen because we know that sasuke is the main charecter after naruto:((

  • NSS7 said:

    i cant wait until the new manga chapter, i think sasuke going to win

  • NSS7 said:

    their are 6 main characters and they are from team 7 and team kakashi which means naruto, sasuke, sakura, kakashi, sai and i forgot whats the sensai name

  • naruto kyuubi said:

    yamato?

  • Jcm said:

    what if madara took over itachis best friends body(i forget the name) and itachi and madara faked the suicide so they could get people off there tracks cause itachis best friend was supose to be stronger than itachi he could of been the CHOSEN ONE

  • guruku said:

    JCM- Then the question we have to ask is: How did Itachi get the MS without killing his best friend?
    I agree with one of the previous ideas that Itachi was Madara’s second choice for a vessel and leaving Sasuke alive is a back-up. In addition, according to Scrubby’s blog, they need a few people with MS to unlock the secrets of the Sharingan.

  • jimmy shoes said:

    i still think that tobi is going to take kakashi’s sharingan.

    i made a post about it a while ago…

  • The Village Hidden in Genjutsu said:

    tobi is gonna take back his eye from kakashi so he can finally have two again lol

    i have a thought, what if itachi and sasuke just trade eyes? i know it sounds wierd and it probably not gonna happen but think about, they’d both never lose their “light”

  • guruku said:

    I would NEVER forgive the series if they simply “let” Tobi take Kakashi’s eye. At the same time, i do not believe Sasuke would accept any help from Kakashi.

  • guruku said:

    If Tobi were to get the eye from Kakashi, then Kakashi would have to learn something incredibly valuable to help the team. In addition to that, It sounds too much like Asuma, and it doesn’t sound like they would repeat something like this in the Manga. I don’t think Kakashi’s time is due just yet. He is a valued character and according to “I.O.’s” Unwritten Laws of Naruto, NO GOOD GUY CAN GET KILLED EVERY 100 mangas!

  • than2x said:

    Hey guys I read a 386 SPOILER… (don’t continue to read if you dont want to be spoiled)
    MADARA had a brother. Like Sasuke and Itachi. They compete with each other. Together with Madara’s “brother” they activated Mangekyou Sharingan. But something terrible happened to MADARA’s eye. He was blinded by the MS. He think of such a way then…poof.. something evil went through his mind.. then he took his brother’s eyes then Madara had eternal MS. This may probably the reason why ITACHI wants Sasuke to activate his MS. Since ITACHI’s sight is failing… I DONT KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE OR WHAT… LETS JUST WAIT FOR THE NEXT CHAPTER…(sorry for my grammar)

  • guruku said:

    I doubt there is going to be THAT much information revealed in one manga. It might take 4 weeks for that entire piece to be revealed. (regarding spoiler)

  • tensaisakuragi said:

    hey guys, lets leave the upcoming manga 386 with 1000 comments in one day….haha

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    “Did anyone read any theories about Tengu and the possibilities of tying it with what is currently going on with the Sharingan and the MS?”

    Actually I haven’t read the theorie, what is it about.

    What if to obtain the Mangekyo Sharingan you didn’t have to kill your best freind. Because according to some theories Itachi’s best firend may have been the “chosen one” and is now the vessel for Madara so that means Itachi didn’t kill him and he obtained the MS some other way. Also, who did Madara kill to get his original MS eyes (not the second pair he got from killing his bro). And Kakashi has also obtained his without killing his best friend (although I know he is not an Uchiha so the same rules may not apply).

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    i ALSO THINK kAKASHI LOOSING HIS sHARINGAN MAY NOT BE A BAD IDEA…AFTER ALL kISHIMOTO SAID SOMETHING BIG WAS GOING TO HAPPEN TO kAKASHI

  • NSS7 said:

    no i think kakashi will join the akatski in order for naruto and the others to go ahead and save sasuke

  • sharingan leader said:

    well why would he join the akatsuki?sasuke really dosnt care about kakashi anymore.

  • sharingan leader said:

    also did anyone find the new chapter?

  • pervy justu said:

    maybe kakashi gains a new eye jutsu if he loses hi ms

  • The Village Hidden in Genjutsu said:

    i just got an idea…
    what if kakashi takes tobi’s eye?

  • pervy justu said:

    i was thinking maybe zetsu and tobi are both mardra. because they look alike and both of their faces are split

  • pervy justu said:

    The Village Hidden in Genjutsu 242 i think thats a bad idea and it would kill kakashi

    one ms hospitalizes him 2 would kill

  • The Village Hidden in Genjutsu said:

    who knows, maybe theres still a bit of obito in tobi and that part will help his best friend kakashi and give him the eye + show him how to turn it off

  • The Village Hidden in Genjutsu said:

    sharingan leader that new avatar is friggen awsome

  • sharingan leader said:

    ya thanks,yours makes me laugh!

  • Gohosku said:

    44 subbed is out for any1 interested. http://www.dattebayo.com/

  • Gohosku said:

    arrgghh apparently the 386raw is out on http://manyou.uu1001.com but i cant read japanese! and u need to register and hell if i can figure that out..

  • guruku said:

    lol

  • naruto kyuubi said:

    what if naruto takes tobi’s ms we all kno the sharingan can control kyuubi so maybe he can control the 4 tailed fase of kyuubi with the sharingan

  • ANBU LEADER P said:

    nah i recon kakashi will die. just like asuma orochimaru n jiraiya. coz i think kishi is gana killing all da old generation shinobi. well mayb not all :]

  • guruku said:

    Sigh…
    My previous post got deleted where I wrote about that.
    Let me re-write it…Here goes:

    In my opinion, Kakashi will not be getting a second MS eye. If Kakashi does get a second MS eye, two things might happen: #1 He dies from over-exhaustion because his body does not wield the bloodline to hold the MS. or #2 Kakashi becomes ridiculously powerful, resulting with him wiping his a$$ with Akatski.
    However, if we are to assume that the storyline leads towards the development of Naruto, we would rather see the eye be given to Naruto.
    I believe Naruto has the capability to wield the Sharingan because he has practically infinite Chakra with quick healing powers to offset the issues of not having the bloodline. Also, with this new development he would finally have the ability to control the Kyuubi and become powerful enough to become the leader of a new generation of Ninjas’. Not to mention kick Akatski’s butts.

  • pervy justu said:

    or naruto burns the ms users with a chakra bullet resulting in blind people

  • EmperorNoodle said:

    But if he doesn’t have the MS he will kill everyone in his way. He is frankly to powerfull. Unless he actually makes a deal with Kyuubi.

  • Yamato-San said:

    386 RAW… no registration needed

    http://www.narutobase.net/Gallery/Naruto-Manga/386/

    This chapter has some great revealations.

  • Newman said:

    BOB Hurry and put up 386 (Iread Yamato-San’s link and I am wishing I could read Japanese) It looks like a good chapter. HURRY!

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    What if Madara and Naruto have a fight inside Naruto’s conciousness, the place where we see the Kyuubi talking to Naruto and where the Kyuubi said that Sasuke has “more sinister eye than my own and as evil as Madara Uchiha.” They fight over control of the Kyuubi when Madara tries to control the Kyuubi while its still sealed in Naruto. And let’s say that Naruto wins, now the Kyuubi would respect him and maybe even thank him for beating/killing/making insane Madara. That would be a pretty sick fight and it would pave the way for Naruto to kick everybody’s asses and become Hokage.

    It would be sick too if Sasuke was in there as well to kill Madara, the guy who helped Itachi kill the clan, but not to fight Naruto.

  • The Village Hidden in Genjutsu said:

    if naruto does get sharingan then that might double the length of the manga because he’d have to learn how to use the sharingan to control the kyuubi…otherwise sasuke would’ve just suppressed the kyuubi at the valley of the end when he and naruto fought

    im stickin with my idea of kakashi either getting another sharingan and learning how to turn it off so it wont effect him as much…or kakashi not dying but just losing the sharingan he has, and if u think about it he might get stronger from this because the eye wouldnt be sucking up so much of his chakra and most likely he’d still be able to use the jutsu he learned through sharingan…

    but on the other hand, lightning blade might not be as strong because i vaguely remember in kakashi gaiden that he said he was able to perfect that jutsu after he attained sharingan…

    hmm…i think this is the longest comment ive ever left-hooray for me lol =P

  • scrubby said:

    Well this new chapter seems to be a very interesting one that will have alot of points for conversation and maybe father put a bigger dent into the TOM theory.

  • NSS7 said:

    im saying that he will join akatski because madara will trick him thinking that his best friend obito telling him that akatski brought him back to life and gave him power

  • eighthHokage said:

    BOB PLEASE HURRY and put up 386(at least blog discussion).I have 1 question.In new manga(386raw)when Madara get his brother sharingan,it’s looks totally different than the regularly MS. Is this (maybe) new or upgrated MS?If I only knew Japanese:-) Can someone tell me something about that eye(first appearing on page 8 in RAW)? Sorry for my grammar but I only know little number of english words to write:-( This is the best site and all you ppl are great. Bob, you got a nice site you are running here.:-)

  • Ninetails said:

    The new sharingan eye is the eternal mangekou sharingan. The kalidescope will not lose its light so to speak. This is the final power of the Uchiha Kekkei Genkei and what Itachi is after. I still don’t see how the container thing works into it, but possibly if Itachi gains the eternal mangekou sharingan then he will be the perfect container for Madara.

  • guruku said:

    Similar to the Gigantic Kyuubi container with eyes, the new MS needs 2 sets (4 eyes), kinda like it’s fused together to gain ultimate power(crazy kaleidescope)… MS… Byakuugan… Sharingan…. Riningan… Has anyone noticed the authors infatuation with eyes yet?

  • guruku said:

    Nss7.
    Do not think so lowly of Kakashi. He has moral principles and he is not going to be simply coerced into joining Akatski. Besides,Akatski has no need for Kakashi at this point.

    I digress a little and ask everyone if they remember the long toad (and key) that Jariya took out before he headed out and got killed by Pein. I read somewhere that the 4th Hokage split the Kyuubi into a good side and a bad side. What if the Key has the ability to unlock something that gives Naruto the power to control the Kyuubi.
    Any other suggestions as too what the Key does?

  • eighthHokage said:

    Thanks, Ninetails!I agree with you in reference to that Itachi will be the perfect container for Madara,if he gains the eternal MS.But I think that Sasuke will stop Itachi because he took off binder from his head and look like he gona(from now one)fights for real.I think that is really importan(I mean about the binder)-that is somehow in relation with Orochimaru,maybe some new and awesome jutsu. Just a thought:-) Thanks,again Ninetails!

  • NSS7 said:

    in the next chapter, all i can say is that itachi is insane, after the way he laughed

    guruku, kakashi is my second favorite character and sometimes i think kakashi will do anything for a comrade or a friend even if he have to become evil, im thinking this because i dont think naruto and the others have a chance in beating tobi

  • guruku said:

    Currently, I agree with you NSS7. Naruto and the others are not going to defeat Tobi as we see him now. I’ll bet that once Itachi/Sasuke’s fight progresses, Tobi’s going to realize it and simply leave because he has bigger issues back there. But at the same time, I do not understand your argument regarding Kakashi being “tricked” into Akatski by simply saying Madara revived his best friend. However, if that does happen, I’ll be incredibly sad =(. So who’s ur favorite character then?

  • NSS7 said:

    my fav charater is sasuke and how about yours

  • guruku said:

    Thats a tough question cause i think everyone has good qualities. I think the only characters that don’t have much to contribute are Tenten and Ino. They’re pretty bland characters.

  • NSS7 said:

    in this manga chapter, zetsu was hiding in the wall…….. is zetsu a cowered, all he does is pick up dead bodies and watch a battle, in my opinion hes not much help in the akatski

  • guruku said:

    Good point. I read somewhere that Zetsu’s main purpose is more reconnaissance and fact-finding. Because he has the ability to teleport and basically pop up anywhere, he acts like a Hunter Nin for the Akatski I guess.
    Btw. Thanks earlier for asking NSS7.

  • NSS7 said:

    then i guess zetsu is another character we wont get to know alot about

    i just got a thought what if the time when naruto and the others to get to sasuke and when they got their they found sasuke dead. guruku thanks for answering my questions

  • pain said:

    if yout think about it, they said obito got crushed on his right side. but when you see tobi on madara’s statue it shows his right eye meaning that he cant be obito because well its his right eye!!!

  • jayuzumaki said:

    I think that Itachi vs Sasuke battle is begining to heat up. I bet Sasuke has sum tricks up his sleeve.

  • fox die said:

    … i hate to say it but what if hinada ends up dieing giving naruto the byokugan…

    they left her out till now

  • NSS7 said:

    i agree with “fox die,” so far hinata didnt really get to do anything yet

  • Quazzie said:

    No offence but I hate how everyone is now saying “what if blank gives blank his eye”…I mean that would just be kinda dumb for the series, come one, Hinata giving Naruto the Byakugan, are you serious. I mean the show isn’t about constantly switching out eyes with random people. And Naruto just won’t get a sharingan cause that won’t even look right and kinda ruin a bunch of things I mean he’s not an Uchiha and he has no expirience like Kakashi so it would be pointless.

    I like guruku’s idea about the key and giving Naruto the ability to contrl the Kyuubi that way, but not with the Sharingan. And about Kakashi getting Tobi’s other eye….uhhh…no.

  • Quazzie said:

    “i agree with “fox die,” so far hinata didnt really get to do anything yet”

    That’s because the show has nothing to do with her and how strong she is.

  • Elliey-sama said:

    Chapter 386 CAME OUT ALREADY! XD cant wait to hear the next blog rant lol! =3!!!

  • Maverick said:

    Stop freaking talking about god damn eyes actually talk about the manga not the eyes that are involved in it seriously if there was a show that was about people that swiched eyes around every day youd all be #1 fans

  • Maverick said:

    sorry about my rant there im under a lot of stress. my midterms are in a few days and ive badly under studied

  • naruto kyuubi said:

    why would hinata gives her byakugan to naruto only besause she isn’t been much in the manga?
    kiba and shino aren’t that much in the manga too

  • The Village Hidden in Genjutsu said:

    no offense maverick but eyes and eye switching is exactly whats going on in the manga right now

  • Mart said:

    1.Bloodline limits can be copied such as in the first naruto movie but it requiers more chakra so pein can pobably make Ice chakra (like haku) or Wood chakra (like yamanato).
    2. the sharingan is better than the ranienganin. this is because there are two diff. chakra catagories light/dark and the nature chakras. raniengan gives control over nature while sharingan gives control over light/dark chakra (mainly dark). the ranneingan gives the user the ability to learn any jutsu almost instantly because of controling nature while shariengan can also let the user learn jutsu but through copieying and can use light/dark attacks.
    3. Tobi is about to kill kakashi to take his eyes to “get uchia madras power” because he finaly learned that kakashi progressed to MS. I think that Obito it tobi because of this.
    4.kakashi obtained MS by accepting Obitos “death” as his fault.
    5. Itachi knows about kakashis MS but he knows Tobi is going to take kakashis MS making 3 sets of MS’s.
    6. on orochimaru, saskue use the sharingan’s light/dark abilities to kill him because the light/dark powers excell atdimensional genjutsu however kabutorochimaru will seek vengance against saskuebecause of orochimaru’s influence

  • NSS7 said:

    the light and dark part, well the dark means that the sharingan user is going blind and the light mean their eye isnt going blind yet

  • Mart said:

    oh and to clarify
    Sharingan: Light/Dark chakra; better genjutsu, dimensional jutsu, and perception. also ability to copy any jutsu it sees.
    Raniengan: Fire/Water/Lightning/Wind/Earth chakra: control of nature chakra (obviously), master of all jutsu, possible ability to copy kekai genkai, six body jutsu.
    P.S. im going to repost this on next chapter discusion because its coming out soon

  • NSS7 said:

    the sharingan is stronger because it can control peoples mind

  • Shadow Myst said:

    testing

  • Shadow Myst said:

    testing again

  • Naruto_Zarachi said:

    wat r u testing.

  • Shadow Myst said:

    another test

  • Shadow Myst said:

    trying to get a link to show on the bottom on my msg, like a signature thing

  • Naruto_Zarachi said:

    O well get on the chatbox. its at the top to ur left.

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