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Naruto Manga chapter 380 – That Face

30 November 2007 337 Comments


Post Author: Bob

This chapter preludes to some of the best fights we’ll see in Naruto. First up is Jiraiya vs. the Six Paths of Pain gang. Next is the fight between the 8-man squad of Konoha vs. TOM (Tobi/Obito/Madara). On the sidelines, we also have Suigetsu going against the man he has been seeking all this time: Kisame – you know this is going to be a real brawl of a fight. And lastly, the fight that Sasuke has been savoring since the beginning of the series… the battle between the Uchiha brothers: Sasuke vs Itachi!

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Jiraiya faces the six bodies of Pein and immediately recognizes the “first” one as that belonging to an adult Yahiko (confirming the theory that several peeps had :P ). But strangely, none of the other bodies bare any resemblance to the Nagato whom Jiraiya remembers. He was sure that it was only Nagato who had the Rinnegan — so how is it possible for Yahiko to possess it? Pein (Nagato) shows surprise that Jiraiya actually remembers Yahiko’s face after all these years but confirms that Yahiko is indeed dead. He refers to himself as Pein and as “god”, then all six of his team attack Jiraiya.

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Six guys against a one armed hermit, that’s not really fair is it? What’s Jiraiya going to do now? The scene with Tsunade also has me worried. The rain foreshadows something bad… and it is an omen in Pein’s favor as he is from the Rain village. Also, even though Tsunade shows a bright smile to Shizune, you know she’s really concerned deep down. Even though she says it jokingly, Tsunade does say that “Jiraiya won’t come back.” I think maybe this time, she may actually win the bet.

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On another front, Sasuke’s team is confronted by Kisame who relays to Sasuke that Itachi only wants to meet him alone. Sasuke thinks this is perfect as he planned on fighting Itachi by himself anyways. Karin voices her concern, but Suigetsu could care less because he has finally found the man (or maybe the sword) he has been searching for. He and Kisame agree to have “a little fun” for old time’s sake, but I can see this leading to full out carnage and mayhem.

Sasuke enters the Itachi hideout, which looks like a large complex built into the inside of a hill. Deep inside he confronts his brother Itachi, who is seated casually in a throne like chair. Now this picture below set off light bulbs in my head almost immediately:

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Why?? Look at the drape behind Itachi’s throne. See that there are nine spiral tomoes surrounding a kanji character in the center. That kanji character means “fox.” Hmmm… Nine tomoes surrounding a fox character…. ring any bells yet? If this doesn’t connect the Uchiha clan to Kyuubi, I don’t know what does. Now it is officially highly possible that the true purpose of the Uchiha clan relates to the Kyuubi. Also, from the state of the wall surrounding the throne, it looks like a big battle took place here. Just what happened? And did it occur before or after the Uchiha massacre? Finally, what does Itachi mean when he cryptically asks Sasuke “what do you see with your Sharingan?”

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Lastly, Naruto and the eight man team are suddenly confronted by TOM. Although he makes it seem like bad fortune on his part, it’s very likely that TOM arranged for this encounter all along. If he is indeed the mastermind of Akatsuki, then TOM probably doesn’t do anything without purpose. Naruto uses a shadow clone to sneak attack with a Rasengan, but it goes straight through his body. There’s something not right about his body… a similar event occurred when Sasuke attempted to cut TOM down with his sword. It certainly isn’t an ability Obito had if it is really his body, but it has similarities to the immortal like abilities of the bodies which Pein uses. It makes me wonder if maybe Pein isn’t the one who has the ability to animate bodies like that – rather it is Madara who has provided him with that power. Maybe it was Madara who had corrupted a vulnerable Nagato and made him into what he is today…. but that’s a theory I’ll save for another day :)

337 Comments »

  • Siskin said:

    FIRST! YEAH!

  • J-sama said:

    NOO! I wasn’t 1st Now I won’t get 3 in a row.
    BUt the thoeries about TOM don’t add up, because then Tobi would’ve been an Akatsuki member all along & wouldn’t be dragging his feet after Zetsu.

  • J-sama said:

    The blog’s magnificent as always, Bob!
    All you Nartards can expect a blog from me & Scrubby in a few days, too.

  • _Itachi said:

    wow bob.
    This is gettin reli interestin here
    well cnt wait till the new chapter comes out
    but it sure takes ages
    lik 1 chapter = 1 week
    how the hell that works?
    ill be 95 yrs wen i get to read the last chapter hehe jkz

  • Gohosku said:

    after readin this chapter my impression of itachi has differed. i was starting to believe he could actually pull it off and become good in the end but i dont think so anymore. i think hes gunna try and convince sasuke to help get naruto.
    o man now i really want the next chapter to come out so much began to happen this time!!

  • hanamichi said:

    naruto gets more and more exciting!!!i hope they’ll start releasing naruto manga everyday starting tomorrow..wuhu..

  • Gaara-of-the-dessert said:

    This was really a good chapter.But i am worried about jiraira,i stil think he is gonna survive but i dont know how.Six against one with only one arm.And TOM, he is really weird i dont know of they can actually kill him.I think everything is gonna turn out verry different the i first thougt,like always.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    Just had a thought:
    What if TOM as we have come to call him is two different people!! Not dual personalities as it may seem. What if one is Madara and the other is Obito?

    Don’t really know if this makes sense but gonna throw it out there anyway.

  • J-sama said:

    You mean like his left side could be Obito & right side Madara? That’d be f’d up. But I don’t think that’s it, ’cause then he’d be something like Zetsu & Kisshimoto doesn’t like to make 2 people with the same characteristics (usually).

  • Shino Aburame said:

    I am at a lost of words… So much in one manga! I don’t even want to guess what will happen next…

  • elerium said:

    exactly so Shino – its just too exciting now. However – since the story was split up – my guess is Jiraiya’s battle is over.

  • scrubby said:

    Well with Sasuke and Itachi is just as i thought Itachi plan is not to fight Sasuke but to possibly show him how to attain different levels of his Sharingan and Bob u have good observation in detecting the meaning on the wall behind Itachi referring to possibly to the kyuubi and his connection to the Uchiha clan. And just a thought maybe the kyuubi is the reason why Itachi and Madara (or the TOM thing everyone here reffers to) is part of Akatsuki to take it from Naruto and put it inside Sasuke or them.

  • TEMARI XD said:

    i think the way Tsunade is talking she knows something, she is obviously concerned but hmmm just got a weird feeling. I agree with the nine tailed – sharingan link, i mean only Sasuke or someone with a sharingan can see Kyuubi so there has to be something big going on there. CANT WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK!!

  • scrubby said:

    Temari its seems like Tsunde is going to marry J-man if he returns huh? or give him some coody-cat in a proper way of saying it huh? :)

  • J-sama said:

    ZOMG! We totally forgot about ‘Shannaro!!!’s first birthday 3 days ago! … So… Happy B-day !

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    OMG How did we forget?!?! D8 Crap!!!

  • sharingan leader said:

    wow bob you are amazing at making all these blogs. one thing that bugs me what going to happen to jariaya? and tsunade is like super worried about jariaya. and finally back to the sasuke/itachi part

  • sharingan said:

    hi

  • kiba said:

    do u remember when obito was squashed by the big rock and he lost all feel in his body. I think that tom is obito. he survived the big rock but lost all feeling in his body. i guess he unlocked another sharigan power that itachi and sasuke havent unlocked yet

  • J-sama said:

    Hey, Bob you promised us cake for the site’s birthday a few months ago. Will you give us some? Pweaaaseee. (party)

  • sharingan said:

    i think that itachi may be the leader because how he munipulates people and stuff and how he is a feared member of the groupe maybe everybody dose not know exept for kisamiae he parter and he is keeping it under raps until the right time

  • J-sama said:

    Imagine this scenario: Obito is crushed under a rovk in Grass country… Zetsu finds him , brings him to Pein. Pein revives Obito (if Obito even died). Obito swears his alligance to Pein & misteriously obtains a Sharingan of Madara’s level. Maybe Pein trained him or resurrected Madara into Obito’s body. But again comes the dylema of why wasn’t Tobi a member of Akatsuki until Sasori’s death?

  • bankai ichigo said:

    well i cant come up with theories as good as u all but this is still soooooooo awesome!!!!!!!!

  • sharingan leader said:

    hey sharingan r u new because ive never seen you leave a comment anyway if you are welcome

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    “Zetsu finds him , brings him to Pein.” Good theory, but methinks Zetsu would probably eat him… ^__^;; How’s this: Pein makes a deal with the immortal soul of Madara Uchiha. Pein gets to destroy the world if Madara gets to rule what’s left. Obito gets smashed. He’s found by some random member of the Akatsuki (one might hope it’s Kakuzu, since he can put beople back together), Obito’s brought to the Akatsuki where Madara takes Obioto’s body. Thus Tobi is bipolar, since he’s jumping back and forth between his Obito personallity and Madara’s crazy time. o_O;; That’s a lot. . .

  • Yahiko said:

    Wow, no other way of saying it

  • paul said:

    when is the itachi/sasuke thing goin to come out? im dying to read it.

  • J-sama said:

    Well, Paul the manga comes out every week, once a week. And since there’re so many battles, I’d say we’ll find out more about the Uchihas troughout the next month or so. So don’t be so hasty (unless you want to).

  • NSS7 said:

    how can you guys get here so fast

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Different time-zones? West-coasters are on later! ^__^

  • thomas said:

    also the nine spiral tomoes look like the spirals in the Sharingan

  • J-sama said:

    Not only that, but I sleep even less than Gaara.

  • NSS7 said:

    sasuke going to kill itachi and after when itachi is almost dead, hes probably going to tell sasuke the secret behind the uchiha clan or maybe he didnt want to tell sasuke the truth when he was lit, im thinking itachi was trying to protect sasuke

    TOM might have the power to accually take on all 8 of the leaf ninjas

  • NSS7 said:

    jiraiya going to die and i think thats going to lead up to all of the 8 leaf ninja to face all of the six pein

  • NSS7 said:

    wait i think i know what itachi finally talking about, hes asking what do sasuke see and he see itachi is going to die and all along itachi wanted him to have enough hatred maybe to prepare sasuke to be the stongest of the uchiha to take on TOM………

  • J-sama said:

    I have a feeling that TOM’s gonna capture Naruto and injur a few members of his team.

  • NSS7 said:

    in the first series itachi did say only an uchiha can kill another uchiha, thats why itachi wanted to force sasuke to becoming stronger in order for him to kill TOM

  • scrubby said:

    NSS7 how is Sasuke going to beat Itachi and he can’t even use his MS yet Itachi was the leader of the Ambu black-ops at 13 i think so he got way more skill in fighting than Sasuke do right now i think it’s going to be a teaching lession about what really happen and why it was all done

  • NSS7 said:

    itachi is in a weak state with his eyes going blind

  • sharingan leader said:

    wow so many comments in like 1 hour

  • NSS7 said:

    remember in the first series, itachi said only a sharingan user and have the blood can kill him and then kakshi said that sasuke is the one

  • Gohosku said:

    ya but itachi isnt stupid, he knows when not to make his move (like when he ran off from jiraiya). i dont think he would have had this 1v1 meeting happen if he thought he was gunna loose

  • Gohosku said:

    he has a really good perception of other peoples abbilities

  • elerium said:

    yo, its crazy but is it possible that naruto finishes like in 5-8 mangas? Look at it in the worst case – jiraiya dies, tsunade comes to save him and dies, the rest of akatsuki, snake and leaf ninja are killed or heavily injured. The only ones left are sasuke, naruto, kyuubi and lets say either tom or pein. then in the end after fighting tom or pein sasuke dies and naruto is left with some bad ass powers developed through the fights (gets carried home by like Gaara or smth.) – becomes the next hokage. Damn, this could end fast!?

  • J-sama said:

    It could & i think it probably will end in a similar way, but in at least 25 more chappies.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    TOM not being seen as the leader of Akatsuki but leading from behind the scenes is a smart move. It protects him. It makes it so if any of the Akatsuki members want to take over they attack Pein and not TOM.

    Also, BOB, I couldn’t pick out the “9″ tomes. Do you think you could post a picture with them circles or something??

  • sharingan leader said:

    YES MY AVATAR FINALLY WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • J-sama said:

    The 9 tomoes are the 2 on each side of Itachi’s head & 7 more behind his throne. On this pic you can only see the tips of 3 of them. http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff6/velidog/naruto380-4.jpg

  • NSS7 said:

    i think i know what they should do , he directer should end the manga with a mystery and make a movie to rap it all up……… that would be awsome :)

  • J-sama said:

    Yep. They do that a lot these these days, so I wouldn’t be surprised. But then, we’d have to wait for 6 OR MORE MONTHS to see it after its creation. I ‘d go nuts!

  • NSS7 said:

    i mean its a great idea like when the fullmetal alchemist show ended with a boring ending with hardly solving anything, i was disapointed but a movie came out and was excited, and when i watch the movie it was the best

  • J-sama said:

    But would you wait for 6 to 8 months like we’re forced to do now with the Shippuuden Movie 1?

  • NSS7 said:

    i mean the graphics would be way better then the show sooo yes it is a good idea

  • scrubby said:

    but i been wondering what part are the 9 tomos going to play in the story?

  • J-sama said:

    9 tomoes = 3 sharingan eyes – no idea.
    But you might have noticed how a fox’s tail is curled and looks like a tomoe. So 9 tomoes = 9 tails? They suggested it with the word fox in the middle anyway.

  • scrubby said:

    See when i first saw the pic i counted eight tomoes and thought that maybe a Sharingan user could attain 4 per eye or something . But the 2 behind Itachi are backwards tomoes what the meaning fo them i have no idea either.

  • J-sama said:

    The tomoes that are around the fox kanji are actually 8, not 7 as I counted before . The throne has been positioned in such a way that the fox kanji is both in the center of the 8 tomoes & is where the 3rd smaller tomoe should be. In my oppinion this symbolises that the sharingan is incomplete without the Kyuubi.

  • Lovething said:

    Scrubby – I think Tsunade is definitely going to stop rejecting Jiraiya *if* he comes back. ;)

    I just don’t know how he’s going to fight against 6 seemingly indestructible reanimated corpses. :(

    It also appears that the Uchihas know a lot about the Kyuubi… A lot more than Jiraiya, that’s for sure.

    This makes Ero-Sennin a more dispensible character, i.e. the story can go on without him.

    I hope he doesn’t get killed off, because he’s a great character, but things don’t look very optimistic for him.

  • scrubby said:

    J-sama u could be right bout the Sharingan being incomplete without the kyuubi because both use fire as there element and the kyuubi does know of Madara.

    Lovething i think Jariaya will return to the Leaf village but not without serious injuries though.

  • Bob said:

    ZOMG! I forgot the site’s birthday too and I’m the owner!!!
    Cake! (BTW, found the pic, didn’t make it :P ) http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7018/narutobirthdaycakeyn2.jpg
    Party!
    http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/3703/earringsbykunoichisanda2.jpg
    Games!
    http://www.narutohurricane.com/manga_pics/Naruto_380_pg18.jpg

  • J-sama said:

    Ooo … I especially liked the game! it’s my favourite. Naked women! Yay!

  • J-sama said:

    Hmm.. I wonder how that last on got there?

  • NSS7 said:

    i think the fight betwwen kisame and sai brother would be interrupted by the the other member with the curse mark. sasuke shouldnt leave him alone, hes dangerous

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Sasuke and Itachi both have evil shark boys they have babysit. Who knows what the results will be. o-o! But it will be awesome.

  • lackadaisical ninja said:

    im thinking my theory on naruto getting a sharingan eye some how is more and more probable now. i mean he already has the kyuubi and he knows all sharingan users except TOM which he is meeting now. im thinking that they are going to try and extract the kyuubi but naruto is going to wake up and end up using like level 5 version of the kyuubi power.

  • NSS7 said:

    wait how about itachi joining team hebi and then they all fight naruto group, now that would be awsome

  • lackadaisical ninja said:

    is it to dumb to say maybe by some chance in miracle naruto has uchiha blood. maybe.

    if j-sama dies whats going to happen to naruto cause that is his teacher and kakashi already said naruto surpassed him.

    so here goes, j-sama lives takes naruto to toad mountain. naruto gets super intensive training then comes back to beat ass lol

  • NSS7 said:

    i think itachi going to join sasuke group and then when naruto and the others get to sasuke, it would be a big fight

  • lackadaisical ninja said:

    i dont think sasuke will take itachis help. even if they make ammends i think sasuke will still loath him. maybe itachi will sacrifice himself to save his brother.

  • NSS7 said:

    i mean it makes sense because when naruto group gets to him they dont stand a chance so i think sasuke will join itachi side

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    The only way Sasuke would “forgive” Itachi is if Itachi didn’t really kill the clan but Akatsuki did and Itachi saved Sasuke and gave him a reason to get stronger like the blog before eluded to. Even in this scenario, I don’t think Sasuke could ever overcome his hate for Itachi seeing as it has been his motivation to live and succeed in life.

    On another note, why the hell did Tobi tell Pein to go and get Naruto if he was going to run into them anyways?

    Also, you know how Zetsu kind of morphs out of trees almost everytime we see him, that kind of reminds me of how attacks morph through Tobi’s body when he is attacked. Maybe that is some sort of grass village jutsu or bloodline ability that Tobi learned from Zetsu using the Sharingan??

    I think the fight between Kisame and Suigetsu is gonna be one of the best ever in Naruto. It is the first fight we will see between two members of the “Eight Swordsmen of the Mist” (even though Suigetsu is more of an honorary memeber cause of his brother). It is not only a test of Kisame and Suigetsu’s skills as ninjas but also a battle between the two swords which might have special abilities all on their own seeing as they have names and such.

    Bottom line I am uber pumped about all that is going on and it sucks that I am starting finals right now cause Naruto is all I can think about.

  • lackadaisical ninja said:

    hahaha…yea school is being jepordized. i actually wrote naruto as an answer by accident. it was hilarious when i got the exam back lol.

  • DanC1110 said:

    That morphing ability of Zetsu’s is likely to be a Kekkai Genkai, so the sharingan cannot copy it. As for why Tobi didn’t join until after Sasori died, I would guess it’s because nobody in Akatsuki had been killed yet since its birth, and Madara hadn’t found a suitable Uchiha host for his soul to inhabit until after the formation of the group. Either that or the preperation for the soul transfer had not yet taken place.

  • Siskin said:

    About Kisame,
    on page 9 he talks about not wanting to have to do another battle. After looking at some of the blog entries quickly, I think the last time he battled was against the 4 tails old man. I would imagine that a little time passed because Sasuke got really hurt against Deidara and was able to pull it together to go find itachi… So when he says “not another battle” what was the first battle he was refering to?

    And in chapter 353, Pein seems worried about Sasuke ruining their plans… he doesn’t seem to be a part of the plans. Maybe all these great theories about Itachi being a pawn and being used are just that, theories. It seems like Ithachi, Tobi, and Pein are the real villians. Itachi seems like he’s sitting on a throne and Kisame always seems like he’s taking orders from Itachi.

    And about the rain and leaving Jiraiya… I think he’s dead. Whenever unfortune is coming Tsunade wins her bets… So I think that’s the last we’ll see of Jiraiya. I think the rain came like the death of the 3rd and I think Kishimoto will leave it up to interpretation.
    Kisame is going to crush this snake gang. This is because it makes room once again for Naruto and his crew to take their place as Sasuke’s friends.

  • Siskin said:

    Orochimaru could also morph into trees couldn’t he? He did it on his introduction when meeting Sasuke during the Chunine exams.

  • Siskin said:

    When Naruto hit Tobi with the Rasengan, he may have been affected by the sharingan already… Maybe Tobi is a ghost,

    This is off topic, but I think Jiraiya made it to the village in the rain so fast because he can do some sort of “teleport” to the location of a frog… kinda like a frog summoning him. That’s why he pulled himself out of the frog.
    Tobi making it infront of Naruto’s team… well maybe he’s a ghost… But there’s something weird…
    Doesn’t strike you as odd on page 12 when Tobi appears there’s weird slashy lighting things in every picture he is in? I know it may be how Kishimoto draws… but… I wonder if he already has them under the sharingan’s control. ANNNNDD
    THIS IS PERFECT! HE’s definitely going to reveal himself if he is Obito to Kakashi.

  • Nameless said:

    Could it be that Tobi’s body isn’t actually real.. I mean he survived a cut through the torso, a huge explosion, and the rasengan went right through him. Maybe he has an ethereal body. So I’m guessing that Pein is Yahiko. When he said that Yahiko is dead, it’s probably a figure of speech, like he’s dead inside.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    Maybe Yahiko taught Orochimaru the body taking over jutsu and he took Nagato’s body. Just a thought

  • sharingan leader said:

    i think that tobi is invinsible he probably learned some really cool jutsu from someone thats why he never gets hurt from the sword and the rasengan

  • Siskin said:

    ………. what if the more tailed beast they get the more Tobi comes alive… Because someone said how he wasn’t around in the beginning and it didn’t make sense if he was the leader.

  • sharingan leader said:

    but how would tobi become more powerful with the more tailed beasts they capture

  • Siskin said:

    maybe that’s why the “fox” and tomoes are at the uchiha hideout. They’re linked somehow. I’m just speculating at this point and trying to figure out why it would be the way it is.
    Why did Tobi suddenly appear… Both in Akatsuki and infront of Naruto and his team?

  • sharingan leader said:

    i still dont get it but i guess we just have wait and see what happens in the next chapter and blog discussion and i agree with u its just so random how tobi just appeared in front of team naruto?

  • sharingan leader said:

    wow! this didscussion is getting so interesting!

  • franzes said:

    i don’t think so!

  • Siskin said:

    franzes, would you care to elaborate?

    and does anyone have any thoughts on Kisame from before? what fight was he talking about?

  • NSS7 said:

    kisame doesnt have a chance in going against team hebi

  • sharingan leader said:

    ahh…. new avatar siskin! probably siugetsu will probably either be killed by kisame or he will kill kisame i think its a 50 50 chance

  • Siskin said:

    but what was the last battle for him? he talks about not wanting to fight another battle or something eluding to the fact that he had just been in a fight recently… which may have been the 4 tails… but was their another battle?

  • Siskin said:

    and the new picture is because if Tobi is Obito, he’s going to reveal it to Kakashi pretty soon… I was going to follow suit with J-sama and find a picture of someone that was the live-action version of Kakashi… but I think this picture has more meaning.

  • sharingan leader said:

    really zabuzas sword vs kisames just saynig kisames is better and even if suigetsu wins kisames sword can only be held by kisame.

  • sharingan leader said:

    well cool new picture

  • Siskin said:

    Thanks, I cropped it myself,
    But on page 9 Kisame talks about not wanting to battle because he was coming from another battle? I was just wondering who the other battle was with?
    Maybe he defeated the other tailed beast and now there’s nothing stopping them from getting the Kyuubi, which would make sense because Pein was given the task of getting the Kyuubi from naruto.

    This would make sense if Jiraiya was defeated then Naruto would have to battle the guy that beat his pseudo-grandpa.

    In my refering to previous blogs I was reminded of an illusion to Jugo being like Android 16 from Dragon Ball Z when he was talking to the birds. This makes me think Jugo will step in on Suigetsu’s fight… actually they really form a team similar to the Androids from Dragon Ball… this makes me think Kishimoto will only save Karen because the girl Android stuck around and fell inlove with krillin. Enough Dragon Ball Z though… I’m reallly curious who Kisame fought before this battle with Suigetsu. If it was the other tailed beast, Suigetsu may have a chance because Kisame may be running low on chakra.

  • sharingan leader said:

    i knew there was still one tailed beast left! but remember siskin kisame has the most chakra of all the akatsuki so he still might be able to beat suigetsu with using much of his chakra.

  • NSS7 said:

    i have no clue

  • sharingan leader said:

    without using much of his chakra. sorry i messed up on my last line

  • sharingan leader said:

    what do u meen u have no clue? u dont no that kisame has the most chakra out of the akasuki.

  • NSS7 said:

    i dont think kisame has the most chakra out of the whole akatski

  • sharingan leader said:

    well i remember from a chapter that it said he had the most. ill tell u what chapter it is, hold on ill say it in a few minutes just let me find it.

  • sharingan leader said:

    read chapter 255 on the website it says he has the most chakra of the whole akatsuki.

  • Siskin said:

    I don’t ever remember them mentioning it in the manga… but that doesn’t mean much because I tend to forget.
    The two tailed beasts left are the supposed 5 tails (according to the statue balance theory)
    http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/rvolume39.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=44053
    (This is from chapter 353 i think… maybe 354…)
    and the ninetails. BUT! I have a feeling Scrubby and J-sama are going to make the case for the second last Bijuu being the 8 tailed snake.
    It just bothered me that Kisame made a hint to the fact that he might have been in a fight recently.

    And Tobi may not be a Ghost because Deidara did put him in a head lock a few times…

  • sharingan leader said:

    hey… new avatar, its cool

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Yet it seems like Kisame has the least control over his chakara.

  • sharingan leader said:

    i never knew there was an 8 tailed snake. where did you hear that? is there a list of all the tailed beasts?

  • sharingan leader said:

    i never thought that kisame had the least control over his chakra.

  • Nameless said:

    I think theyre going to show all of the tailed beasts being captured so I don’t think Akatsuki has captured anything beyond the four tails. I mean looking back, they showed the Ichibi, Nibi, Sanbi, and Yonbi all being captured. (Not sure if that’s what they’re called in Japanese)

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Wonder if there’s a monkey demon. . .
    And I think people are mistaking Orochi, the eight HEADED snake demon for an eight tailed demon. There are several legends about Orochi and I’m not too keen on telling them. It’s long. Perhaps I’ll just post in on a blog. Laters! ^__^

  • sharingan leader said:

    i think in the past, akatsuki already got the rest of the tailed beasts and sealed them. because ive read somewhere that the rest have been captured

  • jeff said:

    helloo!!!

  • sharingan leader said:

    hello! jeff

  • Siskin said:

    yeah… they definitely said that there’s only two left.
    Here’s were you may be refering to about kisame S-leader
    http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/rvolume29.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=34550
    I don’t think that means he has the most Chakra… it just says he has a lot of it… And I don’t know if he’s reallly demonstrated poor chakra control to say he isn’t skilled… he made a lot of water and such when fighting team Guy.
    I think after 4 four tails, there were only the Kyuubi and one other tailed monster left to capture.

    What Scrubby was saying in Chapter 379 blog made sense… about Orochi and such. I think him and J-sama were working on a blog entry.

  • Siskin said:

    It’s 1 here and my post was at 10… Maybe I’ve discovered THE SIXTH ELEMENT!!

    wait a second… you guys are on the west coast? what? …. I never knew.

  • sharingan leader said:

    i dont even know were the west coast is

  • sharingan leader said:

    what! its 1 over there siskin! man, your up real late in the morning

  • sharingan leader said:

    i dont get when it says you have a large amount of chakra even for us akatsuki. what does that mean?

  • Siskin said:

    yeah I guess it’s pretty late… I’m a college student so It’s kinda normal… well… in a few weeks I’ll be a grad school drop out but I still claim to maintain the title of college student. It just suprised me because I imagined team 5 (Bob, Nef, Zep, Shino Ab. and I forgot someone…) being from someplace on the eastcoast, possible from Boston or NYC going to school at a big school or someplace that has Japanese courses at least (I assume that’s where the Kanji class comes from). I guess the West coast fits that bill more though and it begins to make more sense when Bob does posts and such… I just thought he was a night owl college student too. Turns out he’s from California or something.

    kisame’s chakra? well I think Pein is saying that he just has a lot in comparison to the other members of Atkasuki…

  • sharingan leader said:

    well anyway thanks for the answer, im not tired so maybe like another half hour writing comments and then i will stop. hey its almost 11, i wonder if sasuke is going to get the mangekyou sharingan in this battle. i think he will because this might be the final battle for them. …..sasuke will be all beat up and then he will finally get the mangekyou sharingan and finish the battle. lol grad school drop out

  • sharingan leader said:

    till tomorow everybody goodnight!!!

  • J-sama said:

    East coast? West coast? Pleeeeeese ! The difference is like 4 hours or something. What about us poor europeans? We’re like 10 hours away! That’s time for ya.

  • J-sama said:

    E.R.Nefarious said: “There are several legends about Orochi and I’m not too keen on telling them. It’s long. Perhaps I’ll just post in on a blog.” Oh, no you don’t! That’s mine & Scrubby’s blog! We picked it 2 days ago. It’ll be out in about 2-3 days. (we don’t have the time to post it sooner).

  • new girl said:

    i think Itachi is wierd sometimes

  • punk said:

    lol

  • Naruto Hero said:

    have u guys ever thought about something? Maybe when the rasengan went through tobi he was using a genjustu

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    Hmmm i hope these fights work out (oh and this is TEMARI XD by the way) i mena theres alot of fights happening at the same time but im really interested in the TOM fight, 8 on 1……thats some serious odds

  • Newman said:

    Well, First off, I’m new to this Awesome site. But My theory is that Itachi had summoned Sasuke to inform him of the connection to Kyubi and say that they need to work together along with Madara b4 it gets too late. but I think inorder to defeat Madara Itachi saw something that was about to happen to the clan so he killed them to get Sasuke Raged enough to be powerful to defeat TOM. (Get the M- Sharingan)

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    oh and merry december guys!!

  • Newman said:

    Woa something just got jumbled up there so to fix it…

    Work together along with Naruto and Kyubi to defeat Madara …

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    good theory newman, but i dont think sasuke would ever work together with Itachi, he’s too stubborn and with Naruto there things would just kick off and there would be a naruto vs sasuke vs itachi brawl!

  • NSS7 said:

    cant wait until sasuke and itachi do battle

  • NSS7 said:

    to me i dont think naruto is that stronge, he always rushing through without thinking and then he always get piss off easily

  • NSS7 said:

    newman, naruto cant defeat tobi, tobi can just use his sharingan power to supress the kyuubi chakra and im not sure is naruto and sasuke going to fight again if they do sasuke more likely have the adventage

  • naruto kyuubi said:

    but if sasuke wil kil itachi what will he do next i mean he lives to kil him and i dont think he’s going back to konoha

  • NSS7 said:

    if sasuke does succed in killing itachi then im guessing hes after naruto since their a connection between the uchiha clan and the fox power

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    i think were gonna find out who TOM really is on friday, im really looking forward to it

  • Newman said:

    What if the kyubi was captured by Madara Long b4 the start of the Series to run tests on using its power to restore the Sharingan power. But the Kyubi was capable of breaking free and decided to destroy the leaf village? And the tapestry was to remind every Uchiha that if they wanted the true power of the sharingan A: Kill your best friend for M- Sharingan or B: Capture the Kyubi’s host and extract the demons from all villages.

  • Newman said:

    Okay, If Sunade ( Spelling may be off for names) goes to help out Jiraiya and they both get killed A: Who would be able to defeat Pain and B: Who would become the next Hokage ( I’m guessing Naruto, Neji, or Kakashi)

  • NSS7 said:

    i dont think thats the case, wait i think your right, maybe they want the kyuubi power knowing that they could control it with their sharingan

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    thats interesting maybe so….maybe they summoned it thinking they could control it completely but realised that thy could only talk to it and it was too strong for them…..and thats why madara wants help this time form sasuke and itachi…so he can try again

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    and (heres my theory) say the uchiha’s all new about this…..and madara killed them all to stop them getting the power he wanted…except Itachi who he took in and they left sasuke because they knew he could get the m-sharingan and together they could get that power…..does that make sense to anyone?

  • NSS7 said:

    not really, that cant be the reason why he wanted to kill them. i only thing i think he did that was because maybe all the uchiha wanted to stop him and they think hes betraying the leaf villege

  • NSS7 said:

    tom might have a new sharingan ability stronger then the mongekyou sharingan itself, hes using this this power to trap them all in his genjutsu or he has the ability to steal other ninjas ability that even have ability that noone else could copy except him

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    maybe just a theory thought there isnt any evidence so i cant really argue back

  • Newman said:

    By the way Anyone know when Shippuuden starts on TV in U.S.? ( I’m kind of tired of reading subs)

  • sharingan leader said:

    how could tobi have a sharingan more powerful than the mangekyou. he must be like really strong.

  • sharingan leader said:

    i dont know when it starts but my guess is in like a few months because they have alot of extra anime episodes that dont relate to the shippuuden episodes

  • Newman said:

    I might be going over my head here but… After Sasuke’s ” Mission” is complete I wonder if he’d go back to Konoha for Sakura or would he end up with Karin to incorprate her ability to sense Chakra levels and incorporate it into the new Uchiha clan. But Continuing on with relationships… I think Shikamaru will end up with Temari and its a given that Naruto ends up with Hinata.

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    i personally think like most sorta action program a character important to the main character will die….this could be sakura..or hinata in my opinion and with that naruto will realease more enrgy then ever…….and kick bad guy ass

  • sharingan leader said:

    i agree with new man temari+shikamaru naruto+hinata but sasuke is not going back to sakura he is so mean to her all the time.

  • sharingan leader said:

    that will be cool but naruto still dosnt know that hinata likes him

  • Newman said:

    Wait I thought of the perfect match for Sakura “Pakun” I mean they at least have one thing in commen, They use the same shampoo Heh heh

  • Newman said:

    Woa it cut off the rest of what I was saying..

    I’m just kidding about Sakura and Pakun

  • sharingan leader said:

    sakura can just have him as a pet lol

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    “But again comes the dylema of why wasn’t Tobi a member of Akatsuki until Sasori’s death?”

    I’m thinkin Tobi has been in Akatsuki the entire time, just hidden though. I think that now is the part of their plan where Tobi needs to reveal himself and do his own work for the plan to succeed, and this is the perfect time to reveal himself now that there is an open spot.

    …”this symbolises that the sharingan is incomplete without the Kyuubi.”

    As far as Itachi goes…this is kinda a lame theory but, I think Itachi needed to join Akatsuki for whatever reason (probably the Kyubi since the sharingan needs the Kyubi to become complete ). But, I think Itachi knew he did not have the power to do his “mission”, but Sasuke did and that is why he left him alive. So Itachi has gotten so far in his plan and now, just as Itachi has planned, Sasuke will take over from here on out to complete the rest of the mission, and he will start by killing Itachi and taking his place.

  • sharingan leader said:

    tobi wasnt a member because there was only 9 rings each one was taken by the other akatsuki members. there used to be ten but orichimaru still had his even though wasnt an akatsuki member anymore

  • Newman said:

    I just thought of something.. What if Itachi was ordere d by the Uchiha incharge of the clan ( Not Madara) to kill the clan to protect them from any actions taken by Madara and he was told to keep Sasuke alive so that there would be two people left to possibly kill Madara After all Itachi was the pride of the clan and maybe he was instructed to leave sasuke out of it hoping that he’d never know. But he came home when Itachi was still carrying the mission out?

  • sharingan leader said:

    but wouldnt the word be spred out then maddara would find out?

  • J-sama said:

    Kill ‘em to protect ‘em, huh? That sounds kinda strange.

  • sharingan leader said:

    also because in the pictures that they show in the manga everybody who got killed looked scared.

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    “tobi wasnt a member because there was only 9 rings each one was taken by the other akatsuki members. there used to be ten but orichimaru still had his even though wasnt an akatsuki member anymore”

    Well that’s just it i mean Tobi was kept as a secret so no one even knew of his exisistance in Akatsuki, so he didn’t need a ring

  • Bob said:

    I agree, I said this in my blog about Itachi before:
    http://www.narutohurricane.com/narutoblog/2007/11/05/itachi-uchiha-the-real-murderer-part-2/
    you have to be seriously warped to do something like that, even if it’s to save the world or something. If he did do it then Itachi is no better than Madara.

  • Bob said:

    And 161 comments in two days?? NUTS!

  • sharingan leader said:

    but in the manga tobi was talking to zetsu and they found sasoris ring and then he said “now that we found his ring that means i can become an akatsuki now right?

  • sharingan leader said:

    bob when is next blog going to come out? and i agree with bob 162 comments!!!

  • Newman said:

    I wonder how many Mangas are left( It seems as if we are winding down to the end of the Naruto Universe, and I hope we don’t end at a cliff hanger, They really bother me when they do that.

  • sharingan leader said:

    if they are they better have a really good ending but i think there is like 10 more books

  • Gohosku said:

    im a firm believer that mangas never end.. im still reading inuyasha and they ended the anime like 3 years ago, same with hellsing.. its a once a month release but they have over 80 chapters

  • Bob said:

    I’m still hoping for a part 3. After Kishi finishes volume 42, he would have matched Toriyama’s Dragonball manga (a major influence on Naruto) in terms of total volumes.

  • Bob said:

    Lol, I read the monthly Hellsing releases was because the author was just lazy :P

  • Gohosku said:

    rofl probably.. i actually watched the hellsing miniseries way back when it first came out in 2001 or whenever then i forgot about it for about 5 years then looked it up again and was amazed at how much i need to catch up on

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    Yes but I mean it’s all apart of the plan. Tobi doesn’t want people to know who he is and it would be kinda strange for Tobi to enter Akatsuki if he didn’t have a ring.

  • sharingan leader said:

    i still dont ge it

  • sharingan leader said:

    get it

  • sharingan leader said:

    what r we talking about? whats hellsing?

  • J-sama said:

    Hellsing is another anime/manga series, but it’s not as popular as naruto. They’re just disscusing different possibiliteies of how Naruto’s gonna end (or not end).

  • Gohosku said:

    speaking of other anime series.. any1 watch blood plus? i missed last nights episode and i cant find any english subtitles only french, any help would be appreciated =)

  • Newman said:

    I have to agree with Sharingan leader What the Eff is hellsing?

    Is it an anime version of VanHelsing or WTF is it?

  • sharingan leader said:

    thanks j-sama and cool new avatar!! its funny!

  • sharingan leader said:

    it sounds like a vampire anime show

  • Newman said:

    Since were on the subject of other Series…
    Anyone know when the new Trigun movie is coming out?

  • sharingan leader said:

    i love trigun!! wait if your saying the new movie, there was already a first trigun movie, i never knew. vash the stampide! but i still like naruto alot better.

  • Bob said:

    Gah! How could you peeps not know about Hellsing! Excessive Blood&Gore+Vampires+Big Ass Guns = Good Anime :D

  • sharingan leader said:

    never herd of it ever in my life

  • NSS7 said:

    the only anime i ever like were fullmetal alchemist, bleach and naruto

  • NSS7 said:

    and im not much of a fan of dbz, the directer of that show bored me

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    I loved and still do DBZ but I always laugh when I think back to how they would have an entire episode go by and only two or three actual sentences were spoken all the other dialogue was guys gasping/grunting/screaming.

  • Maverick said:

    I agree that bleach, naruto and fullmetal alchemist are awsome but DBZ kinda sucked. I liked it when i was younger but wtf man what was all that grunting and screaming about i personally think it was a shceme to make for episodes so they had more videos to sell and thus make more money

  • Maverick said:

    i meen more episodes

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    J-Sama, you said “That’s mine & Scrubby’s blog!”. For the love of god you can take it! xD That’s a can of worms I’m not too keen on opening. If people want an interactive summary of the Legend of Orochi, just play Okami (its for the PS2).
    And somebody said something about Japanese Kanji classes. . . ;-; That’s so flattering. Seriously. It’s all self-taught, so that’s a really big compliment! xD
    Another question: Who’s gonna’ win, Suigetsu or Kisame?

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Oh. A thought about why Naruto’s Rasengan went straight through TOM: Either the entire party is under TOM’s sharingan illusion thingy, or Naruto’s just attacked a shadow clone.

  • uchiha master said:

    finally the sasuke vs itachi battle is going to start!

  • Siskin said:

    About the boys and the girls that will be dating… I’m going on on a limb and saying Naruto and Sasuke aren’t interested in girls.

    Nef,
    Kisame is going to win hands down… this is to make room for Naruto and Sakura to take the position of being Sasuke’s pals again. I think these characters of team hebi resemble the androids from Dragon Ball Z. (which I agree was awful in ways, although it is the “scuby doo” of anime).

    Someone said something about Itachi being the most talented uchiha, but Itachi’s best friend was supposed to have been more talented then him (I forget his name). That was the guy who Itachi killed. Itachi realy seems to enjoy torturing people as seen when he put Kakashi in the MS and didn’t kill him. He also enjoys pushing himself and a challenge which is why he smiled when Naruto killed the 30% itachi clone while looking for Gaara. I’m really starting to doubt he’s a good person. I think the Sharingan can tap into the 6th element and see into the future which is why Itachi is questioning Sasuke about what he sees. If Itachi could see the future then it would make sense that he could see Sasukes future and how he could use Sasuke… where the other members of the clan seemed to have no purpose in life.

    SO… for battles… Jiraiya’s dead, Kisame crushes team hebi, Zetsu and Tobi fight the 6 Konoha ninja with Naruto and possibly Hinata going on to find Sasuke who gets beat by Itachi again (don’t forget Itachi has experience fighting other sharingan users). Tsunade wins her bet.

    And Tobi being in the shadows until now was a good idea because knowledge of him would have slipped out when Orochimaru left, plus pein can always use another body but his eyes are hard to miss.

  • Naruto Hero said:

    I really don’t want this series to end soon. Even if it is after naruto becomes hokage, i want this thing to go on 2 at least 150 to 200 more episodes

  • DanC1110 said:

    I really want Sasuke to gain the Mangekyou in this fight. Even though he has not killed Naruto, it doesn’t mean that he can’t get it. Kakashi certainly didn’t kill Obito, but he feels responsible for his death. This just goes to show that attaining the Mangekyou is more a matter of your attitude towards the death than the literal circumstances of the death. If Sasuke feels badly enough about how he ended his relationship with Naruto, he could twist that around into figuratively killing his friendship, if not the actual friend.

    To be honest, I only want to see Sasuke’s Mangekyou so I can finish a painting I’ve been working on. It is a sheet of paper divided into four squares, with each section depicting a different Sharingan. I already have Sasuke’s fully evolved Sharingan, and both Itachi’s and Kakashi’s Mangekyou. I just need Sasuke’s Mangekyou to finish it, so I can turn it into my avatar.

  • J-sama said:

    “I’m going on on a limb and saying Naruto and Sasuke aren’t interested in girls. ” Siskin, are you suggesting yaoi or at least shounen ai?
    That’d be nice, especialy if there was yuri, too.

  • Nameless said:

    Well Naruto clearly likes Sakura, Sasuke on the other hand.. Man this blog is going all over the place. Tobi is most likely not there to capture Naruto. I’m pretty sure his only purpose of appearing is to stall Naruto’s eight man group so that Itachi’s and Sasuke’s meeting will go uninterrupted.

  • Gohosku said:

    ““I’m going on on a limb and saying Naruto and Sasuke aren’t interested in girls. ” Siskin, are you suggesting yaoi or at least shounen ai?
    That’d be nice, especialy if there was yuri, too.”

    o man id be pissed rofl. kiski would have to let us know early on about something like that.. i mean i watched miraze of blaze BUT I KNEW WHAT IT WAS going into it!!!

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    I was thinking about how nobody can injure, let alone touch, Tobi (other than Diedara a couple of times). Maybe he has perfected the Shadow Clone technique to the point were his clones are actually “shadows” of himself and thus not be actual solid bodies.

    What do you guys think??

  • Lol said:

    i think tobi is obito and he has a powerfull sharingan like madaras and he is now finding a way to controll the 9 tails like madara could, and that letting Diedara toch him was just 4 show

  • punk said:

    nice

  • punk said:

    This may be off topic but here’s a taught… i read this on this site somewhere, “if Kakashi was about to die, and as a parting gift he would give his Sharingan to someone (just like what Obito did), who would it be?”

    I’m thinking Naruto.

  • punk said:

    Why Naruto? Ok we all know that Kakashi use this Sharingan to copy jutsu(let’s say 1000) it must have taken years or something. Now, i think that if naruto created 1000 shadow clones and have each of them copy one jutsu… u know. Plus Kakashi gets tired very fast after using the Sharingan too much, but we all know that Naruto just keep’s on going like the Energizer bunny.

  • punk said:

    anybody agrees with me?

  • J-sama said:

    I don’t think anybody’s giving his eye to anybody. Kishi’s already done that once & he doesn’t really like to repeat himself much (especially on such important things).

  • J-sama said:

    Oh, I just had an awsome idea! What if the only thing that can harm Tobi are people that have the same blood as him (the Uchiha’s) & he tried to kill to his entire clan, so that no one would be able to kil him. Or something in that trail of thoughts.

  • Lovething said:

    Shikamaru – I thought Tobi was using a shadow clone too.

  • rasenshuriken sharingan said:

    Oh you guyz are the best critics I’ve ever encountered…. hey don’t you ever wonder why Obito or TOM didn’t really fight?…. can somebody explain that?… and if he is Madara then why should he hide himself…. and regarding to his relationship with Pien, why shold Pien be the leader when he was about the one who command Pien on what to do… and for Pien I’m really wonderin’ why he was easily being convincedby madara and can you guyz tell who is stronger than madara and Pien ?… you guyz better answer all of my questions ok… hehehe

  • Pine Siskin said:

    Gohosku,
    Kishi did have naruto and sasuke kiss at the beginning of the series, plus naruto doesn’t really seem to be into Sakura as much as he was. Maybe all the time with the pervy sage turned him off of girls. If it happens, it wouldn’t surprise me. Sasuke never seemed interested in girls.

    Punk,
    The fact that Kakashi got the sharingan was a fluke. If Orochimaru could have done that then why didn’t he take sasuke and rip out his eyes to put into Orochimaru’s current body?

    I think Tobi just has them under the power of the Sharingan in some sort of genjutsu. The perfect shadow clone isn’t something people can go right through, because isn’t that what a regular clone is?

  • Newman said:

    In this chapter I think of Tobi as master Yoda testing Luke ( He tested Luke’s Patience) I think Tobi is just testing Naruto’s power and gathering information to start his next move. Learn the enemy before you attack. You can find out what there signature move is and what there weakness is and other tactical shit.

  • Newman said:

    As for my thoughts on Toms personality and appearence…
    I think Tobi is just Madara’s alias and he wears a mask because he probably lost an eye in the battle against the hokage. He might just reveal his true identity as Madara to everyone else once he is ready. The only ones who truely know his identity are Pain+Konan and possibly Itachi

  • Newman said:

    also could it be that Madara is the origional user and creater of the imortality jutsu and he used obitos dead body+ Reanimation jutsu? Orochimaru could probably have learned it from a scroll when he was testing forbidden jutsu while still in the Leaf Village

  • Pine Siskin said:

    Newman,
    I’m starting to believe that one of the powers of the sharingan is to see the future or someone’s potential… so I doubt Tobi is testing Naruto and the others because the people in his team aren’t secrets. They’ve battled different Akatsuki members plus Akatsuki has members from the leaf village that already know about their abilities (such as Itachi, Orochimaru and Kabuto from before).
    I think you’re right about Tobi stalling them, but I think Zetsu is hiding somewhere as well. My guess is that it’s Kishi’s chance to reveal Tobi as being Obito to Kakashi.

  • Lovething said:

    Siskin I think Naruto’s still into girls. Firstly, he developed a new perverted ninjitsu (which we didn’t get to see because Sakura punched him), secondly he attempted to peep at Sakura and the other ladies in the baths (and Yamato stopped him with a scary story about what Tsunade did to Jiraiya when he did the same) and third, did you see his reaction to Konohamaru’s sexy double knockout girls ninjitsu?

    I’d agree that Saske isn’t into girls though.

  • Pine Siskin said:

    good point lovething
    it becomes an interesting love triangle if naruto is into sakura who is into sasuke who is into naruto. I guess Sasuke is kinda emotionally dead to the world though. But he has to take one for the team to bring back his clan. Although, I have a feeling his clan and the ninetails and all that demon stuff will come to an end when the Naruto manga comes to an end.

  • J-sama said:

    Let’s let Lady P worry about pairings in her blog. By the way, Siskin, are you making a new blog, too?

  • Pine Siskin said:

    quoi?
    no, I just like to sit and speculate. Plus, at the moment, I don’t really have time. I’m not sure what to make one about. I didn’t want to steal Shino’s idea… although I kinda tried to send his post on 379 in with credit to him about Pein’s relationship to buddism. But, no I don’t really have anything to blog about.

    Lady P has a blog? about pairing? I never knew.

  • J-sama said:

    Yep, she does. But she won’t be able to post before Christmas probably. Ahh… so the buddist Pein thing was Shino’s idea. I think Bob is still considering whether to post it or not.

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    im looking forward to Lady P’s blogs i havent ever read 1!

  • NSS7 said:

    wow, this is hilarious

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    and awesome new avatar j-sama!

  • NSS7 said:

    i want to see hinata usually fight in shippuden

  • Gohosku said:

    i agree with nss7.. this blog is halarious.. that is all rofl

  • Pine Siskin said:

    J-sama,
    yeah it was shino’s idea. I added some of my own thoughts… I just thought it would be nice to break out some of these conversations because we’re talking about a million different things. Not that I’m complaining although i kinda am… BUT this site is definitely less confusing than some of the other sites about naruto where they have 10 million pictures and spoiler hiding things that aren’t spoilers and people just saying hi…
    Bob needs more posts because this is going to hit 300 comments before the week is out WHIch makes it a nightmare to look at for those on dial up… or slower computers… or slower connections.

  • punk said:

    kool, thanks for the comments.
    I have another idea… What if Tobi took some of Madara cells after he was defeated/died in the fight against the First and fused them into his body like what Kabuto did with Orochimaru’s? That’s why he is wearing a mask and that costume (that metal looking outfit) cause Madara cells are taking over his body, and maybe that would explain the double personality? Then again…. it’s just me.

  • punk said:

    i’m a punk!

  • NSS7 said:

    tobi and zetsu are both cowards:

    Tobi, he mostly act like a child and just act dumb knowing that he couldnt get killed

    zetsu, he watch for enemies and mostly hide in trees so no one can attack or find him

  • NSS7 said:

    like that one episode, zetsu could have help deidara in fighting kakashi and naruto but he he decide in waiting until diedara or sasori died to come

  • Siskin said:

    doesn’t zetsu like to eat people though? And that’s why he was waiting. Zetsu is the one that we know the least about. I imagine he has his strengths besides being a spy. AND I DON”T MEAN GARDENING!… AH..hahahha… venus flytrap head…

  • NSS7 said:

    but when are we going to see hm acually in a real battle

  • Siskin said:

    i’m guessing in the next 4 or 5 chapters. Hinata will probably see him in a tree or something so he can’t hide from the byuukugen.

  • NSS7 said:

    i just thought of something, maybe zetsu been eating ninjas to get stronger and in the end he ends up eating demon chakra and became the strongest out of all the akatski member

  • Siskin said:

    that kinda makes sense…
    Sasori used dead peoples bodies
    as did Pein
    Orochimaru used science and other people’s bodies
    Kisame steals chakra with his sword
    Hidan was all about sacrificing people for his god err something
    Kakuzu was all about turning people in for money
    And Itachi seems to enjoy torturing people.

    Deidara doesn’t really fit into this using people theme, nor does Konan at this point.

  • NSS7 said:

    some reason i have a feeling that zetsu might be the strongest out of all the akatski member

  • 6th Element said:

    I don’t think anyone has said this or not but couldn’t Tobi be who Itachi supposedly killed, Shisui of the Mirage. I believe that he was very powerful in his own right, I mean the man has a name

  • crazy-g said:

    that makes perfect sence, to me NSS7 ^______^

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    “Lady P has a blog? about pairing? I never knew.” Don’t let her hear/see that! She’ll find you and spam you with dirty yaoi until you beg for mercy.
    I wonder if Zetsu-man has abilities like other carnivorous plants! The Venus Fly trap is one, but there’s other plants that make a super-adhesive to catch their prey and keep them there untill they de-compose and asorb the energy. Better question: Who’s he gonna’ try to eat? O__O;;

  • Bob said:

    “She’ll find you and spam you with dirty yaoi until you beg for mercy.”
    LMAO, she would too :P
    It reminds me of a penny arcade cartoon I saw a while ago:
    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/04/11

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    xD Ha-ha! You’re STILL my hero, Bob-o!
    But LadyP has officially fallen off the face of our pretty sater-covered rock yet again! ^_^;; Thus her couplings blog must be pushed back yet again!
    Personally, I think Sasuke still likes the girls, just hates his brother more.

  • J-sama said:

    “She’ll find you and spam you with dirty yaoi until you beg for mercy.”
    As ai previously stated i like yaoi & yuri, so it’s no problem.

  • Pine Siskin said:

    I can’t believe I missed it before, but is Pein wearing a necklace?
    the necklace of the sage… possibly?

  • rjtachyon777 said:

    hey guys kindly help to have picture here!!!!

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    Itachi and Pein are BOTH wearing necklaces. And I do think that Pein is wearing the same one as the Sage was from a couple of chapters ago

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    58 to go!!!

  • Gaara-of-the-dessert said:

    I think that pein when he was stil young have taken over yahiko’s body with his rinnengan becouse he was almost death and also that pein(inside yahiko)is the father of naruto becouse they have look like each other alot and that is why he had put the demon fox inside naruto.And that was also what jiraira was going to tell.And the other bodies he also have taken control of.I think this makes sense

  • J-sama said:

    Pein can’t be Naruto’s father. Didn’t you read chapter 367, Gaara-of-the-dessert? http://www.narutohurricane.com/naruto_v40_c367.html Look carefully at the conversaition between Jiraiya & Tsunade.

  • Gaara-of-the-dessert said:

    Shees i am really stupid,thanks j-sama
    I think i am going to read the manga again

  • Gaara-of-the-dessert said:

    But it would be pretty cool if pein(nagato) is minato.But that is sort of impossible.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    I think its time we put a stop to all this Pein is Minato talk, it doesn’t make any sense and wouldn’t do much for the storyline either.

    Maybe Pein sniped Minato’s body, but even so from what we have seen Pein doesn’t seem to inherit abilities from the bodies he uses rather he just gives them the Rinnigan.

    And if Minato was alive, don’t you think somebody would have noticed/heard something about him.

  • Gohosku said:

    lol. im still trying to figure out whats so appealing about minato.
    like.. why is he 4th on the character popularity poll?
    do we really know anything about him? lol.
    and if lets say he was alive all of a sudden.. he was the 4th hokage i doubt he would sprout up as a villain

  • Nameless said:

    Minato is fourth on the popularity poll because he was the fourth! Get it?! (rimshot)

  • scrubby said:

    Really everyone i don’t think we seen Pein yet we seen his six paths which is a tool he uses as he chooses with out putting himself at danger in battle.

  • Yellow Flash said:

    The popularity of Minato comes from the fact that he was Konoha’s savior, and he was somewhat of the Perfect Shinobi.

    I still don’t think Ero-Sennin will die. Nor will Itachi. I see there are ways Naruto or the series in general could benefit with their deaths… but that would also be “Captain Obvious”. The twist would be if Tsunade’s luck changes… if Sasuke’s vision changes, or something of the sort.

  • Naruto Hero said:

    all day nobody has comented

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    “As I previously stated i like yaoi & yuri, so it’s no problem.” Ah, yes. We forgot about Jiraiya- the-Omni-sexual! ;D Oops.
    Question that’s probably been answered: Was Pein’s group trained by Jiraiya before Minato’s team or after? O_O;;

  • Pine Siskin said:

    I think someone said something about how they were both fighting the earth kingdom err… something… And then it was said the war lasted 10 years so it could go either way.
    I want to say Minato is older although shino Aburame posted that he thought it was the other way around on chapter 379 post 167.
    I want to say Pein, Kakashi, and Tobi are all roughly the same age with Itachi trailing by about 5 years.

  • naruto-kun J sama said:

    255 baby o yea high score
    lol

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    No. I’m sure Kakashi is a fair ammount younger than Pein, but Kakashi and Itachi must be pretty close. And even Minato was rather young when he got his first team (Obito, Kakashi and Rin). My best guess is that Pein’s group came first. I’m trying to fill in some gaps in the time-line. Like where in the story-line did Orochimaru corrupt to the Akatsuki? Lots of things to ponder about…

  • Bob said:

    Hmm.. you know that’s a good idea Nef. We can all collaborate to make our own Naruto Timeline. We’ll need to fill in the gaps with theories and guesses, but that’ll make it more fun :)

  • Shino Aburame said:

    Now that I think about it I am pretty sure that Minato is older than Pein and Kakashi is older than Itachi… Siskin I was the one who said the thing about the war with village hidden in the earth, but we should definately come up with a timeline starting with the First and Madara and then go from there.

    The reason I say that Minato was older than Pein is because, I think that Jiraiya went to the village of the rain (amegakure), after being proclaimed a Sannin, near the end of the war and Minato and the new jounin Kakashi were in the war towards the end as well because it was said that Konoha used younger ninjas for that war because they were running low on older ones; plus the “Yellow Flash” had already made a pretty good name for himself by that time, probably through that war. This would mean, however, that Kakashi is also older than Pein, but I’m not too sure about that one. I don’t know how relevant the time line is but it would sure be nice to set things straight.

  • Elliey said:

    Hmmm That Background where Itachi is, it reminds me of back then in the first epsd of Naruto where we see the Sealing Jutsu been performed on Naruto’s body so yeah it looks so familiar, i wonder whats going to happen with Kabuto lol, also Pein is starting to freak me out alot, seems so different from the first time i saw him he seemed more human back then now he looks or acts more like a damned puppet.

  • elerium said:

    So how should we start with the timeline?

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    yeah where we starting from whats the first event??

  • Uchiha Masachi said:

    look at this photo, it’s the same drawing in the uchiha’s hideout!

    http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/rvolume1.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=29876

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    I never made that connection, but that’s legit. I guess we have to assume that there are two tomes behind Itachi’s throne.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    I find it really impressive how Kishi can come up with all this stuff and have connections like that.

  • J-sama said:

    Well Kishimoto isn’t a genious for nothing, you know.
    All right 265 comments! We’re about to beat the record again!

  • Pine Siskin said:

    HAPPY
    International Creep Like a Ninja Day !!!
    EVERYBODY!

  • punk said:

    *sneak**sneak*
    what was the last rec?

  • scrubby said:

    well the only difference is the two tomoe that are close together are upside down in the pic where Itachi ask Sasuke what do he see? i wonder why is there’s that little difference and is it significant?

  • scrubby said:

    J-sama u read your e-mail?

  • elerium said:

    Uchiha Masachi, scrubby – actually the picture where Itachi is sitting has this small blob above his head, on the right side, just after the curve of the chair. So my guess is that behind the chair, two remaining tails are hidden. The picture in the link is telling the story – showing how the fox was summoned and how it was sealed. And the picture behind Itachi is just showing the fact – the tails remind tomoes and there are nine of them. Actually the picture tomoes look more like tails – they have this swirl (this “naruto”) in them, and the ones on the chair remind sharingan tomoes rather than tails. What does this all mean – who knows.. However, we had plenty of guesses and i guess tomorrow will show us the truth.

  • scrubby said:

    What u reads your manga’s on Thursday? And what site do u go to to read them?

  • sharingan said:

    The famous Uchiha Clan was massacred in a single night…and Sasuke saw it all happen. The images that come into his mind in flashbacks…are they fragments of the truth, or…?

  • elerium said:

    dude, its early Thursday morning at my place, so tomorrow is Friday! I’ve read shit loads of spoilers – nothing good so far though..

  • elerium said:

    its both – they are flashbacks of the truth. I can’t remember flashbacks to be unaccurate repeats of what happened in the past, they are always truth. However, we had a long debate about the validity of the memories themselves – sharingan is capable of very strong genjitsu.

  • sharingan leader said:

    what r we talking about?

  • sharingan leader said:

    i havnt been commenting since last week

  • sharingan leader said:

    hey and siskin got a new name and a new avatar!!!

  • sharingan leader said:

    well ill be on tomorow so c ya guys later!!! GO PEIN!!!

  • KWEST said:

    MAYBE ITACHI AND KISAME
    FOUGHT SOMEONE AT THE UCHIHA
    HOME ON TOP OFF THAT HILL… AND HE PROBABLY GOT REALLY HURT AND IS HEALING FROM THAT BIG BATTLE. THE REASON WHY I’D MENTION THAT IS BECAUSE, THAT SANCTUARY WHERE ITACHI IS SEATING IS KIDDA BEAT UP.

  • Yellow Flash said:

    Either that, or that room could have just been some sort of training chamber where they tested their Sharingan abilities.

    280!!! YEAHHHH!

  • Sannin Jiraiya said:

    come on guys on a few more comments before saturday! cant wait to read the new one i reckon alot is gunna happen in the next few!

  • Gaara-of-the-dessert said:

    tommorow it is friday,time for a new chapter.

  • punk said:

    “tommorow it is friday,time for a new chapter.”
    ^_^ yea!!…. O_0 it is gonna ba awhile though :(
    boring…

  • Quazzie1234 said:

    Pine Siskin
    “The fact that Kakashi got the sharingan was a fluke. If Orochimaru could have done that then why didn’t he take sasuke and rip out his eyes to put into Orochimaru’s current body?”

    The whole reason why Orochimaru wants Sasuke isn’t just because of his sharingan but aslo because Orochimaru’s body is decaying and he needs a new “vessel” in other words, Sasuke’s young, strong body. So if Orochimaru killed sasuke by ripping his eyes out then he wouldn’t have that “vessel”.

  • Jak said:

    Hello

  • sharingan leader said:

    hi jack!

  • sharingan leader said:

    time to get a new avatar!!

  • Jak said:

    who get new avatar? u or me?

  • sharingan leader said:

    me im looking for one right now but yours is cool to!

  • Jak said:

    hehe, ty, i found a good one that says

    “Yo mama so fat, even Naruto doesnt BELEIVE IT!” lol its pretty sweet

  • sharingan leader said:

    show it to me!!!

  • Jak said:

    here, il change its real quick into it

  • Jak said:

    hehe

  • sharingan leader said:

    LOL ha ha ha ha ha ha LOL! LOL even naruto dosnt belive it

  • Jak said:

    i like this one!!

  • Jak said:

    yours is pretty cool

  • sharingan leader said:

    yes!! mine is now so awsome!!!!!!

  • sharingan leader said:

    i just wana know what was the record last time?

  • Jak said:

    i feel like dance’n

  • sharingan leader said:

    300 COMMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I THINK ITS A NEW RECORD!!!!!!!!!

  • Jak said:

    i think this one is a lil to big lol

  • elerium said:

    damn, i so much hope ero senin wont die! Hold on there old geezer – just don’t die.. (from the spoilers i’ve seen it doesn’t look good.. i so wish they are damn fakes.)

  • Jak said:

    ya, same. i dont think he will though, hopefully

  • sharingan leader said:

    i hope he wont ! but i think pein will win the battle

  • sharingan leader said:

    lol such a big picture!

  • Jak said:

    hehe, its not so bad

  • Halo said:

    I have to admit. I don’t think Pein would ever kill Jiraiya.. (Not that he really can, c’mon people.. It’s Jiraiya!!!) There’s something about Pein that I’m curious about… If he was so amazing.. Amazing enough to kill Ero-sennin… How didn’t he already?

  • sharingan leader said:

    because he just summoned the rest of the bodies

  • Siskin said:

    Pein seems to have a weird way of valuing people. Plus, he probably underestimated Jiriaya.

  • sharingan leader said:

    well y do you think that? i mean jariaya is still missing one arm. pein has the rest of his gang with him. it’ll be a miracle if jariaya wins this battle.

  • Siskin said:

    No… I mean in the beginning of the battle. Jiriaya’s a goner.
    I really doubt they are going to cut back to that battle… I think it’s over.

  • Jak said:

    it would be somthing if jiriaya could win, but im now ticked cause i dont think he will.

  • Bob said:

    Jak, your avatar is too big, plz change it by tomorrow (look at everybody else’s sizes) or I’ll delete it

  • rasenshuriken sharingan said:

    try to see it guyz…? can you say something about that?…. what if this is true?… and besides do everybody saw the body of the fourth?… after sacrificing himself?

  • rasenshuriken sharingan said:

    hey jack.. your avatar isn’t really good.. can you change that?…

  • rasenshuriken sharingan said:

    I’m so excited to see the new episode… then its time for some amzing battles and great moves from Itachi kisame etc. hehehehe this is it guyz….

  • rasenshuriken sharingan said:

    just adding up something to the uchiha clan… do you reallly think that Itachi want to masacre all the Uchiha?…. i mean something is really wrong in that scene?… may be madara has done something about that…. and trying to see from his actions for the past episode, he really acting so wierd…. may be Itachi would unfold some mysteries in the following episodes regarding on the uchiha clan and the kyuubi…

  • Shino Aburame said:

    Going back to a conversation awhile back… Orochimaru wanted Sasuke’s body as a vessel that he could move into, true. Also he wouldn’t have just taken out his eyes because look at Kakashi’s he can’t change it back to normal. If Orochimaru had two eyes that he couldn’t change back to normal he could go blind pretty fast. I don’t think that would be a very good idea.

  • elerium said:

    rasenshuriken sharingan – its very lame picture, mate. No offense, but we are interested more in Naruto than its fan art! Cheers! (P.S. However, the possibility that Minato is alive and even maybe connected to Akatsuki was speculated about quite intensely and quite for a while, unfortunately there are no proofs whatsoever, or even stronger hints thats something like this might be true.)

  • sharingan leader said:

    is my avatar ok? is it to big? because everybody is complaining about everybodys avatars? i think mine is cool

  • J-sama said:

    Rasenshuriken, I think that picture’s not real. Because Tobi has black, not yellow hair. Even if the picture’s real, I think it’s just a genjutsu.

  • J-sama said:

    Or it could be summon (like when Orochimaru summoned the first 2 hokages.)

  • Siskin said:

    also, Tobi isn’t wearing an Akatsuki hat while Minato has the hat in his hand…
    I’d agree that someone was skilled at photo shop or something of that sort. But it can’t be the real deal

  • J-sama said:

    The new chapter is even cooler than this one!!!! It tells the story of Nagato & Yahiko & Jiraiya’s desicion! But The Toad Sage is practically dead. 1% cahnce of survival, but he might make it!
    It’s RAW, but translation’ll be out soon!
    http://www.narutobase.net/Gallery/Naruto-Manga/381/

  • Siskin said:

    hey Jak,
    I thought I’d help you out and I down sized your picture, here’s the link you should put in your gravatar

    http://wm19.inbox.com/thumbs/f0_3e3b_dd7a5d6_oJ.jpg.thumb

    or maybe you could help Bob.
    But that’s a smaller version of the picture that I think would be … not so large
    and I think they were just taking about Jak’s gravatar… and then someone was talking about the pictures of the 4th being in Atkatsuki.
    So fear not… if anyone has an awful picture it’s me! I thought maybe it wouldn’t look so menacing with a party hat.

  • ShikamaruIsTheMan said:

    hey when the new manga comes out in english will some one please post the link.

    Thanks

  • J-sama said:

    Get it now! Fresh from 2 minutes ago: http://narutofan.com/

  • Naruto Hero said:

    man, this is getting good. i almost screamed after i saw 381

  • sharingan leader said:

    hey jak, i agree with siskin and bob make it smaller.

  • sharingan leader said:

    good you changed it!

  • KWEST said:

    ?
    1. I’M STARTING TO GET THE FEELING THAT YAHIKO KILLED PAIN A LONG TIME AGO. WITH A SPECIAL TECHNIQUE THAT HE LEARNED. BECAUSE THE MORE I READ THE MANGA, I NOTICE HIM MENTIONING THAT YAHIKO DIED A LONG TIME AGO. IT GIVES ME THE IMPRESSION THAT HE HATED WHAT HAD HAPPEN DURING THE WAR AND GOT FED UP AND LOST HIS MIND WHEN JIRAYA HAD LEFT THEM THAT DAY. MAYBE YAHIKO HAD THE ABILITY TO USE THE SAME BODY TRANSFER JUTSU AND TOOK OVER NAGOT’S MIND.

  • sharingan leader said:

    hey kwest start commenting on chapter 381 its new

  • B4ttlehunter said:

    “44 elerium ” There’s still alot more story to get through in naruto yet, even if pein dies, theres still the whole 7 swordsmen of the mist, Orochimaru is still alive in Kabuto’s body, and its not like hes going to go down without a fight. Jiraiya may die, but they gotta kill characters off, maybe to make room for new ones… for example they want to kill of Hitsugaya On bleach, one of the main characters.

    Also i have a theory that Uchiha Madara created/summoned the nine tail fox demon to one day go against Konoha.. to back this up, why all the secret Uchiha hide outs? and the link between the Kyuubi, the markings in the uchiha hideout….

  • B4ttlehunter said:

    well not exactly the main but he plays important roles just like jiraiya and a fan favourtie =]

    any comments on what i said lol?

  • nine@tailed@girl said:

    thanks bob ur the greatest! :-)

  • KyuubiBoss18 said:

    I have a kind of weird theory… what if the Rinnegan was transferred into Yahiko because somebody killed Nagato? I mean it worked for Kakashi, so… ? As for why the corpses do I ahve another theory. I think that since the story goes that some divine being who could control all 5 different types of chakra created the ninja world, maybe it gives some power that the Rinnegan simply develops when all 5 types are able to be used and controlled by the user. Like with some jutsu “Pein” as he calls himself was able to 1. Revive Jiraiya’s old enemies, 2. Give each of them chakra from each of the elements that the dead guys bodies didn’t already have and simply because of it they were granted Rinnegan. As for Yahiko “losing his mind” he probably is saying that Yahiko died because like Norman Osborn said in Spiderman (unrelated I know) that “Norman Osborn is dead, it’s Green Goblin now” it’s because he believes that he has some higher calling and so he doesn’t want an “earthly name” to darg down his so-called “Divinity”. These are mostly just theories that I just wanted to bounce off some of you guys to see what you think. Please leave comments to let me know what you think.

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