Naruto Manga chapter 380

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Naruto Manga chapter 380 - That Face

November 30th, 2007 · 337 Comments

Post Author: Bob

This chapter preludes to some of the best fights we’ll see in Naruto. First up is Jiraiya vs. the Six Paths of Pain gang. Next is the fight between the 8-man squad of Konoha vs. TOM (Tobi/Obito/Madara). On the sidelines, we also have Suigetsu going against the man he has been seeking all this time: Kisame - you know this is going to be a real brawl of a fight. And lastly, the fight that Sasuke has been savoring since the beginning of the series… the battle between the Uchiha brothers: Sasuke vs Itachi!

Jiraiya faces the six bodies of Pein and immediately recognizes the “first” one as that belonging to an adult Yahiko (confirming the theory that several peeps had ). But strangely, none of the other bodies bare any resemblance to the Nagato whom Jiraiya remembers. He was sure that it was only Nagato who had the Rinnegan — so how is it possible for Yahiko to possess it? Pein (Nagato) shows surprise that Jiraiya actually remembers Yahiko’s face after all these years but confirms that Yahiko is indeed dead. He refers to himself as Pein and as “god”, then all six of his team attack Jiraiya.

Six guys against a one armed hermit, that’s not really fair is it? What’s Jiraiya going to do now? The scene with Tsunade also has me worried. The rain foreshadows something bad… and it is an omen in Pein’s favor as he is from the Rain village. Also, even though Tsunade shows a bright smile to Shizune, you know she’s really concerned deep down. Even though she says it jokingly, Tsunade does say that “Jiraiya won’t come back.” I think maybe this time, she may actually win the bet.

On another front, Sasuke’s team is confronted by Kisame who relays to Sasuke that Itachi only wants to meet him alone. Sasuke thinks this is perfect as he planned on fighting Itachi by himself anyways. Karin voices her concern, but Suigetsu could care less because he has finally found the man (or maybe the sword) he has been searching for. He and Kisame agree to have “a little fun” for old time’s sake, but I can see this leading to full out carnage and mayhem.

Sasuke enters the Itachi hideout, which looks like a large complex built into the inside of a hill. Deep inside he confronts his brother Itachi, who is seated casually in a throne like chair. Now this picture below set off light bulbs in my head almost immediately:

Why?? Look at the drape behind Itachi’s throne. See that there are nine spiral tomoes surrounding a kanji character in the center. That kanji character means “fox.” Hmmm… Nine tomoes surrounding a fox character…. ring any bells yet? If this doesn’t connect the Uchiha clan to Kyuubi, I don’t know what does. Now it is officially highly possible that the true purpose of the Uchiha clan relates to the Kyuubi. Also, from the state of the wall surrounding the throne, it looks like a big battle took place here. Just what happened? And did it occur before or after the Uchiha massacre? Finally, what does Itachi mean when he cryptically asks Sasuke “what do you see with your Sharingan?”

Lastly, Naruto and the eight man team are suddenly confronted by TOM. Although he makes it seem like bad fortune on his part, it’s very likely that TOM arranged for this encounter all along. If he is indeed the mastermind of Akatsuki, then TOM probably doesn’t do anything without purpose. Naruto uses a shadow clone to sneak attack with a Rasengan, but it goes straight through his body. There’s something not right about his body… a similar event occurred when Sasuke attempted to cut TOM down with his sword. It certainly isn’t an ability Obito had if it is really his body, but it has similarities to the immortal like abilities of the bodies which Pein uses. It makes me wonder if maybe Pein isn’t the one who has the ability to animate bodies like that - rather it is Madara who has provided him with that power. Maybe it was Madara who had corrupted a vulnerable Nagato and made him into what he is today…. but that’s a theory I’ll save for another day

Tags: Naruto manga · Naruto theories

337 responses so far ↓

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Siskin (A*#1)
// Nov 30, 2007 at 10:02 pm

FIRST! YEAH!
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Nov 30, 2007 at 10:39 pm

NOO! I wasn’t 1st Now I won’t get 3 in a row.
BUt the thoeries about TOM don’t add up, because then Tobi would’ve been an Akatsuki member all along & wouldn’t be dragging his feet after Zetsu.
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Nov 30, 2007 at 10:42 pm

The blog’s magnificent as always, Bob!
All you Nartards can expect a blog from me & Scrubby in a few days, too.
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_Itachi (Newbie)
// Nov 30, 2007 at 10:53 pm

wow bob.
This is gettin reli interestin here
well cnt wait till the new chapter comes out
but it sure takes ages
lik 1 chapter = 1 week
how the hell that works?
ill be 95 yrs wen i get to read the last chapter hehe jkz
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Gohosku (Chunin Squad Leader)
// Nov 30, 2007 at 11:36 pm

after readin this chapter my impression of itachi has differed. i was starting to believe he could actually pull it off and become good in the end but i dont think so anymore. i think hes gunna try and convince sasuke to help get naruto.
o man now i really want the next chapter to come out so much began to happen this time!!
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hanamichi (Newbie)
// Nov 30, 2007 at 11:58 pm

naruto gets more and more exciting!!!i hope they’ll start releasing naruto manga everyday starting tomorrow..wuhu..
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Gaara-of-the-dessert (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 12:39 am

This was really a good chapter.But i am worried about jiraira,i stil think he is gonna survive but i dont know how.Six against one with only one arm.And TOM, he is really weird i dont know of they can actually kill him.I think everything is gonna turn out verry different the i first thougt,like always.
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ShikamaruIsTheMan (Rebel Shinobi Leader)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 1:39 am

Just had a thought:
What if TOM as we have come to call him is two different people!! Not dual personalities as it may seem. What if one is Madara and the other is Obito?

Don’t really know if this makes sense but gonna throw it out there anyway.
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 2:19 am

You mean like his left side could be Obito & right side Madara? That’d be f’d up. But I don’t think that’s it, ’cause then he’d be something like Zetsu & Kisshimoto doesn’t like to make 2 people with the same characteristics (usually).
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Shino Aburame ()
// Dec 1, 2007 at 3:42 am

I am at a lost of words… So much in one manga! I don’t even want to guess what will happen next…
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elerium (Genin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 5:06 am

exactly so Shino - its just too exciting now. However - since the story was split up - my guess is Jiraiya’s battle is over.
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:12 am

Well with Sasuke and Itachi is just as i thought Itachi plan is not to fight Sasuke but to possibly show him how to attain different levels of his Sharingan and Bob u have good observation in detecting the meaning on the wall behind Itachi referring to possibly to the kyuubi and his connection to the Uchiha clan. And just a thought maybe the kyuubi is the reason why Itachi and Madara (or the TOM thing everyone here reffers to) is part of Akatsuki to take it from Naruto and put it inside Sasuke or them.
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TEMARI XD (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:34 am

i think the way Tsunade is talking she knows something, she is obviously concerned but hmmm just got a weird feeling. I agree with the nine tailed - sharingan link, i mean only Sasuke or someone with a sharingan can see Kyuubi so there has to be something big going on there. CANT WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK!!
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:52 am

Temari its seems like Tsunde is going to marry J-man if he returns huh? or give him some coody-cat in a proper way of saying it huh?
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:05 am

ZOMG! We totally forgot about ‘Shannaro!!!’s first birthday 3 days ago! … So… Happy B-day !
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:32 am

OMG How did we forget?!?! D8 Crap!!!
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:55 am

wow bob you are amazing at making all these blogs. one thing that bugs me what going to happen to jariaya? and tsunade is like super worried about jariaya. and finally back to the sasuke/itachi part
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sharingan (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:06 am

hi
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kiba (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:16 am

do u remember when obito was squashed by the big rock and he lost all feel in his body. I think that tom is obito. he survived the big rock but lost all feeling in his body. i guess he unlocked another sharigan power that itachi and sasuke havent unlocked yet
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:16 am

Hey, Bob you promised us cake for the site’s birthday a few months ago. Will you give us some? Pweaaaseee. (party)
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sharingan (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:16 am

i think that itachi may be the leader because how he munipulates people and stuff and how he is a feared member of the groupe maybe everybody dose not know exept for kisamiae he parter and he is keeping it under raps until the right time
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:22 am

Imagine this scenario: Obito is crushed under a rovk in Grass country… Zetsu finds him , brings him to Pein. Pein revives Obito (if Obito even died). Obito swears his alligance to Pein & misteriously obtains a Sharingan of Madara’s level. Maybe Pein trained him or resurrected Madara into Obito’s body. But again comes the dylema of why wasn’t Tobi a member of Akatsuki until Sasori’s death?
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bankai ichigo (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:23 am

well i cant come up with theories as good as u all but this is still soooooooo awesome!!!!!!!!
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:27 am

hey sharingan r u new because ive never seen you leave a comment anyway if you are welcome
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:34 am

“Zetsu finds him , brings him to Pein.” Good theory, but methinks Zetsu would probably eat him… ^__^;; How’s this: Pein makes a deal with the immortal soul of Madara Uchiha. Pein gets to destroy the world if Madara gets to rule what’s left. Obito gets smashed. He’s found by some random member of the Akatsuki (one might hope it’s Kakuzu, since he can put beople back together), Obito’s brought to the Akatsuki where Madara takes Obioto’s body. Thus Tobi is bipolar, since he’s jumping back and forth between his Obito personallity and Madara’s crazy time. o_O;; That’s a lot. . .
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Yahiko (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:55 am

Wow, no other way of saying it
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paul (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:08 am

when is the itachi/sasuke thing goin to come out? im dying to read it.
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:12 am

Well, Paul the manga comes out every week, once a week. And since there’re so many battles, I’d say we’ll find out more about the Uchihas troughout the next month or so. So don’t be so hasty (unless you want to).
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:19 am

how can you guys get here so fast
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:23 am

Different time-zones? West-coasters are on later! ^__^
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thomas (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:28 am

also the nine spiral tomoes look like the spirals in the Sharingan
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:28 am

Not only that, but I sleep even less than Gaara.
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:35 am

sasuke going to kill itachi and after when itachi is almost dead, hes probably going to tell sasuke the secret behind the uchiha clan or maybe he didnt want to tell sasuke the truth when he was lit, im thinking itachi was trying to protect sasuke

TOM might have the power to accually take on all 8 of the leaf ninjas
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:36 am

jiraiya going to die and i think thats going to lead up to all of the 8 leaf ninja to face all of the six pein
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:40 am

wait i think i know what itachi finally talking about, hes asking what do sasuke see and he see itachi is going to die and all along itachi wanted him to have enough hatred maybe to prepare sasuke to be the stongest of the uchiha to take on TOM………
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:40 am

I have a feeling that TOM’s gonna capture Naruto and injur a few members of his team.
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:48 am

in the first series itachi did say only an uchiha can kill another uchiha, thats why itachi wanted to force sasuke to becoming stronger in order for him to kill TOM
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:57 am

NSS7 how is Sasuke going to beat Itachi and he can’t even use his MS yet Itachi was the leader of the Ambu black-ops at 13 i think so he got way more skill in fighting than Sasuke do right now i think it’s going to be a teaching lession about what really happen and why it was all done
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:08 am

itachi is in a weak state with his eyes going blind
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:10 am

wow so many comments in like 1 hour
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:11 am

remember in the first series, itachi said only a sharingan user and have the blood can kill him and then kakshi said that sasuke is the one
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Gohosku (Chunin Squad Leader)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:13 am

ya but itachi isnt stupid, he knows when not to make his move (like when he ran off from jiraiya). i dont think he would have had this 1v1 meeting happen if he thought he was gunna loose
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Gohosku (Chunin Squad Leader)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:14 am

he has a really good perception of other peoples abbilities
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elerium (Genin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:18 am

yo, its crazy but is it possible that naruto finishes like in 5-8 mangas? Look at it in the worst case - jiraiya dies, tsunade comes to save him and dies, the rest of akatsuki, snake and leaf ninja are killed or heavily injured. The only ones left are sasuke, naruto, kyuubi and lets say either tom or pein. then in the end after fighting tom or pein sasuke dies and naruto is left with some bad ass powers developed through the fights (gets carried home by like Gaara or smth.) - becomes the next hokage. Damn, this could end fast!?
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:20 am

It could & i think it probably will end in a similar way, but in at least 25 more chappies.
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ShikamaruIsTheMan (Rebel Shinobi Leader)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:20 am

TOM not being seen as the leader of Akatsuki but leading from behind the scenes is a smart move. It protects him. It makes it so if any of the Akatsuki members want to take over they attack Pein and not TOM.

Also, BOB, I couldn’t pick out the “9″ tomes. Do you think you could post a picture with them circles or something??
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:20 am

YES MY AVATAR FINALLY WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:26 am

The 9 tomoes are the 2 on each side of Itachi’s head & 7 more behind his throne. On this pic you can only see the tips of 3 of them. http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff6/velidog/naruto380-4.jpg
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:26 am

i think i know what they should do , he directer should end the manga with a mystery and make a movie to rap it all up……… that would be awsome
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:32 am

Yep. They do that a lot these these days, so I wouldn’t be surprised. But then, we’d have to wait for 6 OR MORE MONTHS to see it after its creation. I ‘d go nuts!
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:35 am

i mean its a great idea like when the fullmetal alchemist show ended with a boring ending with hardly solving anything, i was disapointed but a movie came out and was excited, and when i watch the movie it was the best
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:37 am

But would you wait for 6 to 8 months like we’re forced to do now with the Shippuuden Movie 1?
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:39 am

i mean the graphics would be way better then the show sooo yes it is a good idea
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:46 am

but i been wondering what part are the 9 tomos going to play in the story?
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:50 am

9 tomoes = 3 sharingan eyes - no idea.
But you might have noticed how a fox’s tail is curled and looks like a tomoe. So 9 tomoes = 9 tails? They suggested it with the word fox in the middle anyway.
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 11:56 am

See when i first saw the pic i counted eight tomoes and thought that maybe a Sharingan user could attain 4 per eye or something . But the 2 behind Itachi are backwards tomoes what the meaning fo them i have no idea either.
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 12:32 pm

The tomoes that are around the fox kanji are actually 8, not 7 as I counted before . The throne has been positioned in such a way that the fox kanji is both in the center of the 8 tomoes & is where the 3rd smaller tomoe should be. In my oppinion this symbolises that the sharingan is incomplete without the Kyuubi.
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Lovething (Rookie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 12:37 pm

Scrubby - I think Tsunade is definitely going to stop rejecting Jiraiya *if* he comes back.

I just don’t know how he’s going to fight against 6 seemingly indestructible reanimated corpses.

It also appears that the Uchihas know a lot about the Kyuubi… A lot more than Jiraiya, that’s for sure.

This makes Ero-Sennin a more dispensible character, i.e. the story can go on without him.

I hope he doesn’t get killed off, because he’s a great character, but things don’t look very optimistic for him.
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 1:07 pm

J-sama u could be right bout the Sharingan being incomplete without the kyuubi because both use fire as there element and the kyuubi does know of Madara.

Lovething i think Jariaya will return to the Leaf village but not without serious injuries though.
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 1:11 pm

ZOMG! I forgot the site’s birthday too and I’m the owner!!!
Cake! (BTW, found the pic, didn’t make it ) http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7018/narutobirthdaycakeyn2.jpg
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 1:27 pm

Ooo … I especially liked the game! it’s my favourite. Naked women! Yay!
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 1:29 pm

Hmm.. I wonder how that last on got there?
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 2:04 pm

i think the fight betwwen kisame and sai brother would be interrupted by the the other member with the curse mark. sasuke shouldnt leave him alone, hes dangerous
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 2:08 pm

Sasuke and Itachi both have evil shark boys they have babysit. Who knows what the results will be. o-o! But it will be awesome.
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lackadaisical ninja (Rookie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 2:35 pm

im thinking my theory on naruto getting a sharingan eye some how is more and more probable now. i mean he already has the kyuubi and he knows all sharingan users except TOM which he is meeting now. im thinking that they are going to try and extract the kyuubi but naruto is going to wake up and end up using like level 5 version of the kyuubi power.
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 2:36 pm

wait how about itachi joining team hebi and then they all fight naruto group, now that would be awsome
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lackadaisical ninja (Rookie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 2:37 pm

is it to dumb to say maybe by some chance in miracle naruto has uchiha blood. maybe.

if j-sama dies whats going to happen to naruto cause that is his teacher and kakashi already said naruto surpassed him.

so here goes, j-sama lives takes naruto to toad mountain. naruto gets super intensive training then comes back to beat ass lol
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 2:42 pm

i think itachi going to join sasuke group and then when naruto and the others get to sasuke, it would be a big fight
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lackadaisical ninja (Rookie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 2:56 pm

i dont think sasuke will take itachis help. even if they make ammends i think sasuke will still loath him. maybe itachi will sacrifice himself to save his brother.
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 3:04 pm

i mean it makes sense because when naruto group gets to him they dont stand a chance so i think sasuke will join itachi side
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ShikamaruIsTheMan (Rebel Shinobi Leader)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 3:19 pm

The only way Sasuke would “forgive” Itachi is if Itachi didn’t really kill the clan but Akatsuki did and Itachi saved Sasuke and gave him a reason to get stronger like the blog before eluded to. Even in this scenario, I don’t think Sasuke could ever overcome his hate for Itachi seeing as it has been his motivation to live and succeed in life.

On another note, why the hell did Tobi tell Pein to go and get Naruto if he was going to run into them anyways?

Also, you know how Zetsu kind of morphs out of trees almost everytime we see him, that kind of reminds me of how attacks morph through Tobi’s body when he is attacked. Maybe that is some sort of grass village jutsu or bloodline ability that Tobi learned from Zetsu using the Sharingan??

I think the fight between Kisame and Suigetsu is gonna be one of the best ever in Naruto. It is the first fight we will see between two members of the “Eight Swordsmen of the Mist” (even though Suigetsu is more of an honorary memeber cause of his brother). It is not only a test of Kisame and Suigetsu’s skills as ninjas but also a battle between the two swords which might have special abilities all on their own seeing as they have names and such.

Bottom line I am uber pumped about all that is going on and it sucks that I am starting finals right now cause Naruto is all I can think about.
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lackadaisical ninja (Rookie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 4:16 pm

hahaha…yea school is being jepordized. i actually wrote naruto as an answer by accident. it was hilarious when i got the exam back lol.
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DanC1110 (Genin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 5:00 pm

That morphing ability of Zetsu’s is likely to be a Kekkai Genkai, so the sharingan cannot copy it. As for why Tobi didn’t join until after Sasori died, I would guess it’s because nobody in Akatsuki had been killed yet since its birth, and Madara hadn’t found a suitable Uchiha host for his soul to inhabit until after the formation of the group. Either that or the preperation for the soul transfer had not yet taken place.
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 5:38 pm

About Kisame,
on page 9 he talks about not wanting to have to do another battle. After looking at some of the blog entries quickly, I think the last time he battled was against the 4 tails old man. I would imagine that a little time passed because Sasuke got really hurt against Deidara and was able to pull it together to go find itachi… So when he says “not another battle” what was the first battle he was refering to?

And in chapter 353, Pein seems worried about Sasuke ruining their plans… he doesn’t seem to be a part of the plans. Maybe all these great theories about Itachi being a pawn and being used are just that, theories. It seems like Ithachi, Tobi, and Pein are the real villians. Itachi seems like he’s sitting on a throne and Kisame always seems like he’s taking orders from Itachi.

And about the rain and leaving Jiraiya… I think he’s dead. Whenever unfortune is coming Tsunade wins her bets… So I think that’s the last we’ll see of Jiraiya. I think the rain came like the death of the 3rd and I think Kishimoto will leave it up to interpretation.
Kisame is going to crush this snake gang. This is because it makes room once again for Naruto and his crew to take their place as Sasuke’s friends.
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 5:39 pm

Orochimaru could also morph into trees couldn’t he? He did it on his introduction when meeting Sasuke during the Chunine exams.
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 5:48 pm

When Naruto hit Tobi with the Rasengan, he may have been affected by the sharingan already… Maybe Tobi is a ghost,

This is off topic, but I think Jiraiya made it to the village in the rain so fast because he can do some sort of “teleport” to the location of a frog… kinda like a frog summoning him. That’s why he pulled himself out of the frog.
Tobi making it infront of Naruto’s team… well maybe he’s a ghost… But there’s something weird…
Doesn’t strike you as odd on page 12 when Tobi appears there’s weird slashy lighting things in every picture he is in? I know it may be how Kishimoto draws… but… I wonder if he already has them under the sharingan’s control. ANNNNDD
THIS IS PERFECT! HE’s definitely going to reveal himself if he is Obito to Kakashi.
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 6:18 pm

Could it be that Tobi’s body isn’t actually real.. I mean he survived a cut through the torso, a huge explosion, and the rasengan went right through him. Maybe he has an ethereal body. So I’m guessing that Pein is Yahiko. When he said that Yahiko is dead, it’s probably a figure of speech, like he’s dead inside.
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ShikamaruIsTheMan (Rebel Shinobi Leader)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 6:38 pm

Maybe Yahiko taught Orochimaru the body taking over jutsu and he took Nagato’s body. Just a thought
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 6:48 pm

i think that tobi is invinsible he probably learned some really cool jutsu from someone thats why he never gets hurt from the sword and the rasengan
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 6:49 pm

………. what if the more tailed beast they get the more Tobi comes alive… Because someone said how he wasn’t around in the beginning and it didn’t make sense if he was the leader.
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 6:52 pm

but how would tobi become more powerful with the more tailed beasts they capture
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:03 pm

maybe that’s why the “fox” and tomoes are at the uchiha hideout. They’re linked somehow. I’m just speculating at this point and trying to figure out why it would be the way it is.
Why did Tobi suddenly appear… Both in Akatsuki and infront of Naruto and his team?
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:11 pm

i still dont get it but i guess we just have wait and see what happens in the next chapter and blog discussion and i agree with u its just so random how tobi just appeared in front of team naruto?
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:12 pm

wow! this didscussion is getting so interesting!
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franzes (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:36 pm

i don’t think so!
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:42 pm

franzes, would you care to elaborate?

and does anyone have any thoughts on Kisame from before? what fight was he talking about?
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:45 pm

kisame doesnt have a chance in going against team hebi
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:55 pm

ahh…. new avatar siskin! probably siugetsu will probably either be killed by kisame or he will kill kisame i think its a 50 50 chance
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:57 pm

but what was the last battle for him? he talks about not wanting to fight another battle or something eluding to the fact that he had just been in a fight recently… which may have been the 4 tails… but was their another battle?
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 7:59 pm

and the new picture is because if Tobi is Obito, he’s going to reveal it to Kakashi pretty soon… I was going to follow suit with J-sama and find a picture of someone that was the live-action version of Kakashi… but I think this picture has more meaning.
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:00 pm

really zabuzas sword vs kisames just saynig kisames is better and even if suigetsu wins kisames sword can only be held by kisame.
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:05 pm

well cool new picture
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:27 pm

Thanks, I cropped it myself,
But on page 9 Kisame talks about not wanting to battle because he was coming from another battle? I was just wondering who the other battle was with?
Maybe he defeated the other tailed beast and now there’s nothing stopping them from getting the Kyuubi, which would make sense because Pein was given the task of getting the Kyuubi from naruto.

This would make sense if Jiraiya was defeated then Naruto would have to battle the guy that beat his pseudo-grandpa.

In my refering to previous blogs I was reminded of an illusion to Jugo being like Android 16 from Dragon Ball Z when he was talking to the birds. This makes me think Jugo will step in on Suigetsu’s fight… actually they really form a team similar to the Androids from Dragon Ball… this makes me think Kishimoto will only save Karen because the girl Android stuck around and fell inlove with krillin. Enough Dragon Ball Z though… I’m reallly curious who Kisame fought before this battle with Suigetsu. If it was the other tailed beast, Suigetsu may have a chance because Kisame may be running low on chakra.
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:34 pm

i knew there was still one tailed beast left! but remember siskin kisame has the most chakra of all the akatsuki so he still might be able to beat suigetsu with using much of his chakra.
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:34 pm

i have no clue
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:36 pm

without using much of his chakra. sorry i messed up on my last line
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:37 pm

what do u meen u have no clue? u dont no that kisame has the most chakra out of the akasuki.
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 8:59 pm

i dont think kisame has the most chakra out of the whole akatski
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:03 pm

well i remember from a chapter that it said he had the most. ill tell u what chapter it is, hold on ill say it in a few minutes just let me find it.
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:07 pm

read chapter 255 on the website it says he has the most chakra of the whole akatsuki.
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:08 pm

I don’t ever remember them mentioning it in the manga… but that doesn’t mean much because I tend to forget.
The two tailed beasts left are the supposed 5 tails (according to the statue balance theory)
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/rvolume39.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=44053
(This is from chapter 353 i think… maybe 354…)
and the ninetails. BUT! I have a feeling Scrubby and J-sama are going to make the case for the second last Bijuu being the 8 tailed snake.
It just bothered me that Kisame made a hint to the fact that he might have been in a fight recently.

And Tobi may not be a Ghost because Deidara did put him in a head lock a few times…
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:08 pm

hey… new avatar, its cool
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:11 pm

Yet it seems like Kisame has the least control over his chakara.
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:14 pm

i never knew there was an 8 tailed snake. where did you hear that? is there a list of all the tailed beasts?
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:16 pm

i never thought that kisame had the least control over his chakra.
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:18 pm

I think theyre going to show all of the tailed beasts being captured so I don’t think Akatsuki has captured anything beyond the four tails. I mean looking back, they showed the Ichibi, Nibi, Sanbi, and Yonbi all being captured. (Not sure if that’s what they’re called in Japanese)
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:30 pm

Wonder if there’s a monkey demon. . .
And I think people are mistaking Orochi, the eight HEADED snake demon for an eight tailed demon. There are several legends about Orochi and I’m not too keen on telling them. It’s long. Perhaps I’ll just post in on a blog. Laters! ^__^
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:43 pm

i think in the past, akatsuki already got the rest of the tailed beasts and sealed them. because ive read somewhere that the rest have been captured
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jeff (Newbie)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:44 pm

helloo!!!
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:46 pm

hello! jeff
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 9:56 pm

yeah… they definitely said that there’s only two left.
Here’s were you may be refering to about kisame S-leader
http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns/rvolume29.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=34550
I don’t think that means he has the most Chakra… it just says he has a lot of it… And I don’t know if he’s reallly demonstrated poor chakra control to say he isn’t skilled… he made a lot of water and such when fighting team Guy.
I think after 4 four tails, there were only the Kyuubi and one other tailed monster left to capture.

What Scrubby was saying in Chapter 379 blog made sense… about Orochi and such. I think him and J-sama were working on a blog entry.
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:00 pm

It’s 1 here and my post was at 10… Maybe I’ve discovered THE SIXTH ELEMENT!!

wait a second… you guys are on the west coast? what? …. I never knew.
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:02 pm

i dont even know were the west coast is
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:05 pm

what! its 1 over there siskin! man, your up real late in the morning
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:07 pm

i dont get when it says you have a large amount of chakra even for us akatsuki. what does that mean?
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:29 pm

yeah I guess it’s pretty late… I’m a college student so It’s kinda normal… well… in a few weeks I’ll be a grad school drop out but I still claim to maintain the title of college student. It just suprised me because I imagined team 5 (Bob, Nef, Zep, Shino Ab. and I forgot someone…) being from someplace on the eastcoast, possible from Boston or NYC going to school at a big school or someplace that has Japanese courses at least (I assume that’s where the Kanji class comes from). I guess the West coast fits that bill more though and it begins to make more sense when Bob does posts and such… I just thought he was a night owl college student too. Turns out he’s from California or something.

kisame’s chakra? well I think Pein is saying that he just has a lot in comparison to the other members of Atkasuki…
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sharingan leader (Anti-Rebellion Dictator)
// Dec 1, 2007 at 10:42 pm

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