Naruto Manga chapter 379: Jiraiya… minus one arm
Post Author: Bob
Everything worked out according to Jiraiya’s plan as he finally faces Pein one-on-one while the others are incapacitated. Pein performs a hand seal to summon something but Jiraiya leaps immediately at him and sends him flying into the wall with a powerful kick. At the same moment, both Ma and Pa start their genjutsu song and capture all three members of Pein’s team in what appears to be a watery prison held in place by four armored toad warriors. Jiraiya informs Pein that he cannot move an inch because his nerves have been completely paralyzed.
Jiraiya lectures to Pein that he went down the wrong path. Jiriaya intended for Nagato to conquer his pain and protect his friends, not use it as a tool to lead to world to ruin. He recalls the Toad Sage’s prophecy about his pupil, and Jiraiya honestly believed that maybe Nagato would be the one to bring peace to the entire world. He doesn’t waste anymore words and stabs all three members of Pein’s team with giant swords in the real world.
Believing Pein to be dead, Jiraiya leaves the scene with the toads who hack and weez because performingthe genjutsu apparently really does a number on their throats. Jiraiya apologizes and informs the toads that he has “finally made his decision.” But before he can anymore, another one of Pein’s bodies suddenly appears behind Jiraiya. He caught Jiraiya completely off guard and, with one swipe, sends Jiraiya crashing through a wall and falling into the water outside. Whatever attack this body of Pein used, it was powerful enough to hack off Jiraiya’s left arm with ease.
Appearing from the hole in the wall, all six of Pein’s bodies have assembled – including the three Jiraiya had just “killed.” Pa thinks Pein must have summoned the other three just before he was caught in the genjutsu. Pein tells Jiraiya to witness the six paths of pain. When Jiraiya asks Pein who he really is, Pein replies that the name applies to all six of them. Jiraiya cannot believe that he is fighting six people with the Rinnegan. Then Jiraiya suddenly realizes something vital, something so crucial, something so important… that we’ll have to wait another week to find out because Kishi loves his cliffhangers.
Wow, what a sudden reversal of situation in one chapter. I had a feeling that Jiraiya wasn’t going to defeat Pein that easily, but I’d never imagined he would receive such a serious injury in Pein’s counter attack. Now with only one arm left, Jiraiya is going to extremely limited in the jutsus he can perform. Unless he can do one handed seals like Haku did, Jiraiya’s going to have to seriously rely on the toads just to survive. He’s probably low on chakra too having had to use so many jutsus up to this point. The toads are also tired out and probably can’t perform their genjutsu again, not to mention that Pein now has seen the genjutsu and knows its weakness.
On top of that, Pein has summoned his remaining three bodies and “magically” healed the other three. I think I can say with almost certainty that Pein’s bodies are some form of reanimated corpses. Like Ma said, there’s no jutsu in the world that can bring a guy back instantly after being stabbed by a giant sword. Now after seeing what Pein can do, I’m starting to see why he was able to defeat Amegakure’s Salamander Hanzo single-handedly. Pein’s team of six is an army by itself, each specializing in a powerful ability and all having the ability to coordinate their attacks flawlessly. Either that or Pein’s trying to assemble his own boy band – which is evil in another way.
This fight is starting to give me flashbacks of Asuma’s fight, specifically the part where he is severed injured while fighting Hidan but had no where to run and was forced to either fight or die. Things are looking very grim for Jiraiya – if he’s been holding back something, now’s the time to use it or it’s certain death. But even if he wins, I wonder if Tsunade has some miracle jutsu to grow back his arm.
Two questions left unanswered:
1. What did Jiraiya mean when he said “I finally made my decision.” I thought his decision was whether or not to kill his former student, but Jiraiya clearly said those words after having killing Pein’s first group. My guess is that it has something to do with Naruto, possibly to do with his Kyuubi Seal.
2. The cliffhanger at the end of this chapter really provides no clues on what Jiraiya is going to say. What has Jiraiya realized about Pein? Some forbidden technique? A connection to the Sage of the Six Paths? Gah! This is going to gnaw away at me this whole week until the next chapter!
NOOOOOO! Jiraiya-sensei’s arm! Now he might not be able to write any mre novels! If these are all of Pein’s bodies, the his true body must’ve killed or somethig. The chapter’s really awsome!
Tsunade might not be able to grow back jiraiya’s arm, but if he can find it, maybe she’ll be able to restitch it like Kakuzu did with Deidara. But even if his arm is lost forever, I’m sure he can do one-hand seals- He is The Great Jiraiya after all. Let’s just hope he surves. And also the tall body in the middle kinda reminds me of Kisame.
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this is getting really wierd. but j-sama, forget about jariah’s arm. what about his life! he has slim chances to none of surviving
well….i reckon when he said ‘ive finally made my decision’ he means hes going to let naruto in on the secret of that forbidden jutsu, maybe the nine tailed rasengan or something extra kool like that, but this is getting interesting…i cant see jaraiya surviving though
I would have thought he would be alot more careful walking away from the fight. Doing something like using a close and hiding in the shadow or silhouette. Kakashi would have been more careful. Even though its a low level jutsu, why did he not use a substitution jutsu to get away from the attack? I don’t think his chances are slim. This is one of the Legendary Sannin. I guess we’ll see though.
I think Jiraiya will be fine. You know how certain reptiles or amphibians can regenerate their limbs? Well being the toad sage, I wouldn’t put it past him to be able to do that…
well, he might just die. he lost one of his arms, lost most of his chakra, hermit mode isn’t doing anything for him, and ma and pa have soar throats.
I think a substitution justsu was almost out of the question since the attack happened so incredibly fast. Jiraiya’s chances don’t look too good now. I only hope he survives long enough to exposit what is so significant about Pain’s six bodies.
On another note, am I the only one who thought that the first body Pain switched to was Deidara?
Jiraiya’s out of luck now.
He should escape to back to Myouboku Mountain using some kind of reverse summons jutsu.
I think he’ll be okay if he gets away. Tsunade can give him an arm transplant or something, since Rin was able to do an eye transplant for Kakashi, and she wasn’t even an experienced Medic.
So, where or what is the real Nagato?
Do you think he’s hiding out somewhere, controlling the bodies the same way Itachi and Kisame fought Team Gai and Team Kakashi?
Or is Nagato some incorporeal form that can put his chakra into many bodies at once? If so, the only people who can fight him are the Uchias.
Jiraiya can’t die. There’s so much he hasn’t yet taught Naruto. Who else would be his mentor? He’s already surpassed Kakashi in some ways.
soo then, what i want to know i if nagato was a ninja that could make, or break the ninja world is there anyone strong enough to take him? i know jiraiya is sannin and all….but pain is a God he beat hanzou single handedly someone all of jiraiyas team couldnt touch. jiraiya is out of his league
His only option seems to be to make 5 shadow clones and use the jutsu that yondaime and sondaime used to seal away the spirits of the kyuubi and Orochimaru’s arms. I still want Jiraiya to win, but the chances are slimmer then before. Can you guys think of another instance where someone lost their arm in battle besides Deidara. Because Deidara survived after losing his arm by running away! I want to know what happened in the other instances if there were any.
The one that looks like Kisame (kinda) is the one that severed Jiraiya’s arm. The picture shows someone with horns behind him before it happened and the only one with horns is the one that looks like Kisame. I wish that Kishi would give them names! Anyway it does seem that Pein summoned the others right before and then one (or both) of them healed the three that were stabbed while the other attacked Jiraiya.
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i was so depressed when i saw his arm was missing rofl. jiraiya is a pimp! but i figure he isnt dead yet, he hasn’t made that fate altering desision the toad sage was babbling about. He’s not just gunna get beat up and them walk away carelessly. PS.. this fight needs to end soon!!!!
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Ha thanks sasori, i reckon jiraiya wont be long without an arm hes got loads of techniques we wont know about, i mean hes the pervy sage!! kakashi would cry if he died!
I think Jiraiya will grow his arm back like some reptiles do and go on with another battle or Pein is about to kill him. I think when Jiraiya said “I’ve mad my decision” He was about to say he is going to tell naruto everything and teach him the flying thunder god technique. Really I thougt this was going to be the last chapter on this battle cause i am itching to see naruto and sasukes battle or sasuke and itachis battle it doesn’t matter i just want to see them fight.
this could be the end for jiraiya
How is he going to perform hand signs now! Unless he knows one hand signs. I think some one will come in to save him. When will this battle end i miss naruto! Pluss there still looking for sasuke?
I’m betting they’ll have a HUGE climax where J-man will find some way to pull off a victory, but they’ll cut to the other side of the story line. Either that or he’s gonna’ run for it. ; p
I wonder if each Pein clone has it/his own Akatsuki ring…? And maybe I’m just imagining things, but don’t all of Pein’s bodies look like a different member of the Akatsuki? From left to right: Deidara, Kisame, Zetsu, Sasori, Orochimaru and Hidan! Just an observation. ;D
So I think that each of the bodies has something to do with the Rinnegan, and the 6 Paths. I mean come on, 6 Paths, 6 Bodies… I think the next one is going to explain what happened to Nagato and explain the 6 bodies
True, but the body Pein was just using, the pony-tailed one, was using all six elements on its own! The rinnegan seriously is such a cheap ability.
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i reallythink jiraiya sama i going to die and live in naruto like orichimaru did wit sasuke
Wow i was really impress on Pein’s ability to break the genjutsu that Jariaya put him in it was the most powerful genjutsu i ever seen. Genjutsu,Tiajutsu and Ninjutsu don’t work what is there left, it just makes me wonder what kind of powers do Tobi or Madara have to order Pein around?
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6 against 1 pein is gunna win. i wonder what jariaya is gunna do nxt. so far it has been an interesting fight. how can jariaya possibly win unless he pulls off sum really powerfull move. RINNEGAN RULES but i think sharingan is still better
Anywayz have u guyz forgoten ’bout yahiko maybe he is involved in J “relizasion” not ask me how i suspect this but he was made out to be a major upcoming character in Naruto, if you know what i mean
anywayz this is kinda a borring too physical kinda part of the manga when can we get back to naruto/saskue/itachi part where every second is a secret packed thriler!?
how is jariaya going to write his books with one hand !!??!?!
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I agree when are they going to get back to sasuke/itachi part?
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The rinnegan is truly turning out to be the strongest eye ability. Now how is Naruto going to beat Pein if he’s this strong? And i believe the God Path hit Jariaya with the strong blow which took his arm off and i think he got all the information he needs on Pein so he needs to flee if he’s able to because he will be killed in htis battle.
this battle
If you look carefully, only the original (the first one we see) Pein is wearing the Akatsuki ring for Void. I think that is the real one.
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You have a point, Bob, but it seems like he doesn’t exactly have only one official body. The only evidence for the spiky one being Pein is the different styles of piercing and the ring… And that body kinda’ looks like Yahiko… but that’s just conjecture.
man, this manga is full of suprises
When he said that the name ‘Pein’ refers to all six of us, doesn’t it make you think that all of them combined makes his actual body? Maybe he split his body up and distributed his chakra amongst them, it could also be that he split his abilities to all six members also.
You know the ability where a ninja just poofs away in a puff of smoke to get away? Is there anyway to stop that? I mean it just seems that whenever someone like Kabuto or Orochimaru uses that technique, it’s like a definite way to escape, and no one even bothers trying to chase after them.
I think it’s just a cop out Kishi uses to avoid drawing panels of a more elaborate escape plan
i think that nameless is on the right road in an earlyer chapter jariryia talks about each of the bodies having only one abilty maybe nagato put one ability into each body when he spilt himself up
Nameless, are you saying that their powers combined makes Nagato (Captain Planet… lol). i have a question… If Pein has never lost a battle then why does he answer to TOM?
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Bob, do you know what the other rings say by chance?
Dam its gettin reli interestin. well i hope J-sama dont die coz he gotta teach Naruto some more jutsus. well y da f….the anime takes so long???
Here’s what I read from good ol’ wikipedia
-Right thumb: 零 rei, “zero”; worn by Pein.
-Right index finger: é’é¾ SeiryÅ«, the Azure Dragon; worn by Deidara.
-Right middle finger: 白虎 Byakko, the White Tiger; worn by Konan.
-Right ring finger: 朱雀 Suzaku, the Vermilion Bird; worn by Itachi Uchiha.
-Right little finger: çŽ„æ¦ Genbu, the Black Tortoise; worn by Zetsu.
-Left little finger: 空陳 Kūchin, the Void; formerly worn by Orochimaru.
-Left ring finger: å—æ–— Nanju, Sagittarius (lit. Southern Star); worn by Kisame Hoshigaki.
Left middle finger: 北斗 Hokuto, the Big Dipper (lit. Northern Star); worn by Kakuzu.
-Left index finger: ä¸‰å° santai, “three levels”; worn by Hidan.
-Left thumb: 玉女 gyokunyo, the Virgin; currently worn by Tobi, formerly worn by Sasori.
Sorry, I was mistaken, Pein wears the ring for ‘Zero’, Orochimaru had ‘Void’.
The rings don’t seem to have any significant meaning. While it is true that Pein has never lost a battle, it’s probably also true that he’s never fought against Tobi/Madara. Pein’s ultimate goal is probably everything to him, he probably wants revenge against the world he lives in for causing him so much pain and taking Yahiko away from him. He doesn’t care what happens or who he has to answer to as long as he accomplishes his goal in life, much like Sasuke. And he probably needs Tobi/Madara in order to accomplish it.
Left thumb: 玉女 gyokunyo, the Virgin Yep! That dffinately sounds like Tobi.
“The rings don’t seem to have any significant meaning”. I disagree. They most certainly have a meaning. We just don’t know what it it is.
I think I’m gonna write a new blog about these rings. I have a couple of hundred ideas already!
hey guyz what do you think will happen next?…. don’t you realize how difficult j-sama is in now?…. i think he couldn’t make it anymore perhaps all six bodies of pien are now assembled together…..
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During his time with Jiraiya, Pein awakened his Rinnegan ( 輪廻眼, Rinnegan? literally “Samsara Eye”), characterized by a number of concentric circles around the pupil. The eyes, first possessed by the founder of the ninja world and the creator of the first jutsu, give Pein access to all six types of elemental chakra.[41] In later years he exhibits the ability to clone his subordinates with his Shapeshifting Technique (象転ã®è¡“, ShÅten no Jutsu?), in which he uses human sacrifices to create a perfect copy of another person, controlled remotely by the original. The clones formed possess any unique genetic traits or weapons the original has, but its abilities are proportionate to the amount of chakra given to the clone.
“DO YOU KNOW WHAT SAMSARA IS?”
IT MEANS……Samsara is derived from “to flow together,” to go or pass through states, to wander. Mostly a great revolving door between life and death and a new life reincarnated cycle of life. Also known as a game in ancient India. DO YOU KNOW THAT “”BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH” how about that?
“HOW ABOUT THIS….”
Pein is shown to have at least six physical bodies[43], which he refers to as “The Six Paths of Pein” (ペインå…é“, Pein RikudÅ?)[44], stating that the name “Pein” is shared by all six.[45] The bodies he is not currently using are kept in a type of machine, though it is unknown if the machine itself plays any role in the process. Of the six bodies he has been seen in[46], the only common characteristics are the same orange hair color, a number of piercings that differ between bodies, and the Rinnegan. Each body has its own unique abilities, allowing Pein to use different bodies to deal with a variety of situations. The body with a large ponytail (pictured on the far left) is able to summon a wide array of creatures, while a second, fatter body (far right) is able to absorb ninjutsu as a form of defense. A long-haired, thin body (fifth from the left) is adept at taijutsu.[47] Pein can summon bodies he is not currently using, and the Rinnegan also allows them to share visual information seamlessly, giving him the ability to coordinate attacking and defending with these bodies as if they were a single entity.
Well considering how the rings are just passed on from dead members to new members, e.g. from Sasori to Tobi, I can’t see how the rings have any relations to its wearer. That’s what I meant when I said significant meaning, or were you referring to something else J-sama.
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The thing is, how does somebody, even as powerful as Pein, control six bodies as one conciousness? Maybe it’s like an octopus, where it has seperate mini-brains that attatch to one larger brain. Only Pein’s a Hexsapus… And we can’t really tell where the real brain is…
this battle keeps goin back and forth
in my opinion, i think peins goin to win
Sadly, it looks that way. Jiraiya really didn’t think this through, did he? He knew how powerful the rinnegan is… Maybe Tsunade’s got some sort of super-slug-spy keeping tabs on him, or there’s always the off chance that Jiraiya learned the Flying Thunder God ability. ^_^
jiraiya thinks he goin to win this battle but it seems he bein careless, letting his guard down and that give pein a chance to attack him
when r we going to see naruto meeting up with sasuke at the uchiha place. i believe sasuke going to help itachi in killing madara and then naruto will get in the way and thats when part 2 of sasuke vs naruto
I don’t know about you guys, but “hermit mode” doesn’t seem to be doing all that much for J-Man other than giving him MA and PA which is a huge boost but technically not hermit mode since he needed their help to achieve hermit mode
Well maybe “hermit mode” is so if he’s fatally hurt he grows back limbs lost and fatal chest injuries in battle, because it’s seem not to be hurting him that much in this battle to have lost his arm. And also why i say that is when he was training Naruto in the 4-tail state look at his chest wounds anyone else to receive a blow like that it would’ve been there death for sure. Just a thought.
I don’t think Naruto will find Sasuke and Itachi in the Uchiha’s secert hide-out because if so it wouldn’t be much of a secert hide-out at all.
i forgot, doesnt hermit mode use alot of chakra for healing and jutsu too
I wonder if Madara is actually helping Pein find a vessel for his body to re-unite his powers because his powers were split between the four bodies.
The rings must be a way to locate the other members of the a-team and talk to them telepathically… or else pein can tell what people are thinking. This may be why the kid looked so crazy before and was aware of how much of a pervert Jiriaya was/is. And if he can read minds then there’s no way to surprise him. That’s why the other guys appeared.
I want to say that Itachi won’t convince Sasuke to go along with this elaborate plan…
six bodies
i thinks its almost at the end of the manga
I think it’s going to go on for a bit longer. TOM seems to not be included in this big battle/chase situation. I want to say there’s at least another 150 chapters until the end.
It will be revealed that Pein is… whatever… tengu or something. Madara will be hanging out on his giant statue for a while…
Madara must have been waiting for the rebirth of the rinnengan in order to try to help the reincarnated spirite of his father again. So I have flip-flopped about my opinion of the importance of Pein.
Thus, as pain awakens the true power of the sharingan, pain has awakened the rinnengan.
why Nagato’s body was destroyed seems to be the real question.
nah the manga isnt gunna end any time soon… no manga ever ends any time soon rofl, if anything the second chapter will end soon.. there will be a time skip and ‘part3 there adults!’.. i wouldnt put that past them
the manga kinda confusing. as you get more into the chapter, something always happen
isnt madara the strongest out of the akatski member, if he succeed in bringing his father back to life. i dont know who would be stronge enough to kill him. dont tell its naruto, the one whos going to stop him
in the series, i think its like about 200 episodes if you dont include the first series
sweet battle. But doesn’t this battle seem somehow hasty? We still don’t know whats the point of the hermit mode, what the hell Pein really is, and what was this decision Jiraiya made. There should be explanations, so i agree this will take a while. Not sure if I’m the only one, but this is getting confusing beyond help.
Regarding Jiraiya – there is no reason to think he will die. He isn’t on a brink of life and death or anything – just with his arm missing. He should be alright, at least for now.
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do u think that jariya noticed the three dead pains and the one that looks like the fourth
is it possible that the fourth hokage was one of the peins, you know the one that landed and had a zoom in on his ring, and the same hair style
or did pein just revive his body, if thats it does it have something to do with those things in peins face?
I think they’re just running out of ways to draw characters. Just like one of them kind of looks like Deidara but has no resemblance in Jutsus. There’s probably no connections to Pein’s bodies and the living/dead Akatsukis.
Well they always could think of different accents of attire, or crazy shapes to differentiate between the characters. I’m guessing there is a point in the piercings and in the fact that they are kind of alike. We just dont know yet what that might be. Jiraiya seems to understand something at the very end of this chapter – maybe we will know the answers soon.
jiraiya is still holding back becuz he cant decide rather he wants to kill pein or not
I think there is something to the fact that the 3 bodies Jiriya “killed” revived themselves immediately. From what we have seen so far, Pein seems to be on almost another plain of being. Meaning that he can manipulate the connection between the mind and body. I think that the 6 bodies are in a sense “possessed” by Pein/Nagato’s being yet his mind and body are not restricted by any of his bodies.
On another note: I don’t think that Naruto will ever be able to control the Kyuubi’s chakra like he did when he first discovered that he had an enormous amount of surplus chakra in his body. That is why Jiriya doesn’t want him ever using the Kyuubi’s chakra at all because its only desire is to overcome Naruto’s mind and body and take control.
I think “the Jutsu” that Jiriya was talking about could be Naruto making a shadow clone of his himself in a tailed form. That could be the only way to rid himself of the Kyuubi’s chakra, slash kick ass, while not allowing it to destroy his own body as it is the case when he reaches a tailed form of the Kyuubi’s chakra.
do you know when the next manga comes out?
I agree that they’re running out of different styles and that’s why pein’s crew look like different characters. Their similar looks are probably to just keep us guessing about the 4th.
The piercings appeared in the summons too, which makes me think they’re related.
I found this about piercings
“This ritual was done to draw blood to prepare them for the gods.” This was in reference to the Native Americans, specifically the Aztecs, Mayas, Kwakiutul, and Tlinglit tribes.
Jiraiya definitely has a piece of the puzzle that we haven’t been informed about yet.
I wonder how he lost his body, which has brought him to this lowly state.
OKOKOK… my guess is that Nagato thought he was avatar the last airbender and lept with his glider from the top of the valley of the end. Suddenly, it was revealed that his wind chakra would only tear the glider to pieces… thus… sending the boy falling to his doom. How do you think Nagato died?
It’s Friday or Saterday every week… unless Kishimoto is gathering information. aka looking for other legends and stories to tie into naruto, such as the tengu and chinese constellations and Jiriaya etc.
naruto can’t put the Kyuubi into a shadow clone, because all of the shadow clones including himself are affected… no… I think he NEEDS sasuke who can control the kyuubi to help him achieve this higher level. Sasuke also needs naruto to become stronger as well (like the fire and wind thing). Maybe they could do some sort of Fire-wind-lightning attach that could destroy most anything.
So what your saying Siskin is that if Naruto were to make a shadow clone while in a tailed state both he and the clone would be in that state simultaneously?
If I were Naruto, I’d make a clone for the Kyuubi to inhabit with his personality and powers and train together. I mean is there anyone better suited to train Naruto than a crazy, power hungry, selfish demon in order to prepare to fight all the enemies that ae popping up. I find it hard to believe that the only times Naruto has had a “heart to heart” with the Kyuubi was when he said he was gonna borrow chakra as a way for the Kyuubi to pay “rent” and when Sasuke supressed the Kyuubi.
Siskin, I agree with you that Sasuke and Naruto are an almost perfect match and I think that the 3rd knew what he was doing when he teamed them up. Its kind of like how Tsunade made Yamoto the Team Leader because he can supress the Kyuubi’s chakra. The 3rd knew the 1st and that he had that ability, and probably knew that Madara Uchiha, and in turn all Uchiha, had the ability to control the Kyuubi as well so really there was no one better to be close to Naruto in case the Kyuubi took over.
I think that once Jiraiya gets back to Konoha or at least meets up with Tsunade ( I personally think he will find a way to get out of this battle breathing because honestly the whole “the Student is now the Master” thing has already been done in the Narutoverse) she will definitely have some insight into who Madara Uchiha is seeing as he was close with not only her grandfather but her great uncle as well.
do u think if naruto was able to put the kyuubi into a shadow clone somehow it would be willing to train with him? i feel like it would hack another loogy of chakra at him then run off and cause hell rofl
siskin how do you know all these stuff.
I thought about that Gohosku, and in a way that could be a good thing, it would take the Kyuubi’s chakra out of Naruto and if it was ever killed or whatever all that it did would then go into Naruto’s brain.
im confuse, i miss like 50 episodes of naruto. my favorite characters are sasuke, karin, sakura and shikamaru. pein is more important then naruto. pein is the one jirai needs to kill, he have the statue to take control of the fox to destroy everyone
My guess is that Pein’s bodies are former cadavers of people he deffeated and thought would be useful. Thus healing wouldn’t be needed durring battle, meaning he saves a lot of chakara. Maybe he lost his old body. . .?
I think that the body we mostly see before this fight was Yahiko’s and Nagato took it over when Yahiko was killed so that he could always protect/be close to his friend. I don’t think that they are people he defeated only because that would be too similar to Orochimaru and Hidan’s jutsus. But then again it could make sense that Orochimaru figured out how to make his “immortality” jutsu work through Pein example.
yep jiraiya is a goner 4 sure
I don’t think Naruto can split his body into pure Naruto and Kyuubi, that is sorta far fetched.
Bob do you know if the rings have different characters on Pein’s other 5 bodies? If so what are they?
Naruto Echizen did you get that info from Wikipedia? I found this on wikipedia:
“To understand the concept of Samsara it is important to know about the six realms” Samsara is what Rinnegan literally means. Six realms? Like six ways of Pein? This is what wikipedia had to say about the six realms:
“The Six realms (Tibetan: rigs drug gi skye gnas), are six divisions of the possible states of rebirth in traditional Buddhist cosmology. They represent all the possibilities, good and bad, of life in saṃsÄra. They include rebirth as a deva, an asura, a human being, an animal, a hungry ghost, or a being in Naraka (hell) according to the individual’s karma.
The Six realms are also called the “six paths of rebirth”, the “six paths of suffering”, the “six planes”, and the “six lower realms”
Deva realm
Main article: Deva (Buddhism)
The Deva realm is the realm of bliss and pride.
The Deva realm is sometimes also referred to as the gods’ realm, because its inhabitants are so powerful that, compared to humans, they resemble the gods of Greek or Roman mythology. However, while the Devas may be referred to as gods, they are not immortal, omniscient, nor omnipotent, and act neither as creators nor judges at death, so they are notably distinct from the monotheistic concept of God.
[edit] Asura realm
Main article: Asura (Buddhism)
The Asura realm is the realm of the demigods. They are here because of actions based on jealousy, struggle, combat or rationalization of the world. They may be here because in human form they had good intentions but committed bad actions such as harming others. The Asuras are said to experience a much more pleasurable life than humans, but they are plagued by envy for the devas, whom they can see just as humans can perceive animals.
The Asura realm is also sometimes referred to as the Ashura realm, Titan realm’, Jealous God realm, Demigod realm, or Anti-God realm. Asura is also sometimes translated as “demon,” “fighting demon,” “those without wine,” or “frightened ghost,” which can cause confusion because beings of the hell realm are also sometimes referred to as demons.
[edit] Human realm
Main article: Human beings in Buddhism
The Human realm (also known as the Manuá¹£ya realm) is based on passion, desire, and doubt.
Buddhists see this realm as the one in which homo sapiens live. It is described as one of the more conducive realms to achieving enlightenment because of the possibilities that it offers.
[edit] Animal realm
Main article: Animals in Buddhism
The Animal realm (also known as the Tiryag-yoni realm) is based on stupidity and prejudice.
Buddhists believe that this realm is home to the nonhuman animals on Earth, though humans can see the animals in the same way that the Asura can see the Devas.
[edit] Hungry Ghost realm
Main article: Preta
The Hungry Ghost realm (also known as the Preta realm) is based on possessiveness and desire.
The sentient beings in this realm are known as “hungry ghosts” because of their inability to enjoy food or drink. In Tibetan versions of the Bhavacakra they are drawn with narrow necks to represent that condition.
[edit] Naraka realm
Main article: Naraka (Buddhism)
The Naraka realm, or “hell realm” is based on hatred.
The Buddhist view of the Naraka realm differs significantly from that of most monotheistic religions in that those being punished in this realm are not trapped permanently. Rather, they remain there until their negative karma is used up, at which point they are reborn into another realm.”
So maybe each of Pein’s bodies have these personalities or are used for these purposes. Sorry for it being so long.
“Bob do you know if the rings have different characters on Pein’s other 5 bodies? If so what are they?”
I’m pretty sure the other bodies don’t have rings, which is why I’m guessing the one with the ring is the original. But I also like the idea that Pein is not really in any one body but all of them. Maybe the key in defeating Pein is to kill all six bodies at the same time.
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jiraiya doesnt stand a chance, so who can???
I tld you that Pein would make a comeback! Akatsuki aren’t that easy to defeat!
I think Jiraiya’s got a chance, I mean he is the man. And he’s gotta be ridiculously tough to take on the 4-tailed Kyuubi and survive a near fatal blow like the one he took. That missing arm won’t phase him. I bet he’s gonna get mad now and go Super Sayin on Pein’s 6 asses.
Sidenote: Just realized that Jiraiya’s hair looks like a Level 3 Super Sayin… vica vi/ergo he is a total badass and has a whole boat load of tricks up his sleeve.
It would be very fitting if the only way he could escape was to use his invisibility jutsu he uses to spy on the ladies, er, I mean do his research. It would fit with the prophecy of the Elder Toad and would be awesome if that was the weakness of the Rinnigan.
Has anyone noticed Zep’s dissapearance lately?
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super sayian 3 jiraiya wow……reckon they can fuse? like naruto and jiraiya to make some pervy kid with bad hair and even worse catchphrases?? coz that…well that would rule
I concur
I think Jiraiya lives. Just a though… I would hope that Kishi wouldn’t want to bore us with the same student-beats-teacher outcome everytime student and teacher face off. I would like to get back to the Itachi/Sasuke plotline too. How battle worthy would Tsunade be against an opponent like Pein???
i think Tsunade would lose.
but do u think naruto will reach sasuke first or will sasuke fight itachi?
i have a feeling that naruto arrives in front of the hideout just as sasuke gets there.
what about u
I don’t think Tsunade’s medical jutsu’s would have much effect on Pein’s abilities. Then again, she’s no pushover either.
I honestly hope Naruto doesn’t interrupt Sasuke and Itachi. Honestly, it would be nice to see Itachi kick Sasuke’s ass again. Sasuke is not nearly as gifted as Itachi. If you guys think about it, we’ve yet to see Itachi go into full battle mode. I want them to get to the plot of the Uchiha Clan/Madara/Tobi thing going on here.
that would be cool but what do u think is going to happen to jariya
like i said earlier do you think tobi is kakashi’s partner you know the one standing next to him in your pic
because the mask only shows the right eye but no left
some one said that might not be true but i dont know.
he has the same hair style as tobi, the story seemed suspicious on how kakashi’s partner died.
that is why i think tobi wears a mask because kakashi has his other eye.
if i am right wouldn’t it be cool if kakashi and tobi were to fight and kakashi found out it was his old partner?
but why did tobi call him self uchiha madara? does uchiha madara have some body jumping shit like orochimaru?
i think this next manga might show another part of the story finally
John, some say that Tobi claims to have the power of Madara Uchiha and is not actually Madara. But I’m a believer that Orochimaru stole a bunch of other people’s jutsu’s… so in theory, madara can jump from body to body if madara is still alive that is. Although, Orochimaru was having trouble with his bodies rejecting him and that would coincide with Obito’s body rejecting Madara so he acts more like obito than Madara at times.
Shino Aburame,
I think you might be on to something…
maybe the fat guy is the Hungary Ghost
The Deidra look alike is the Animal Realm guy
The guy with horns is one of the Naraka realms? maybe
The tiajutsu guy might be the Asura realm guy.
And the new nobody guy is human realm man?
The Yahiko look alike is the God realm guy …. and he can die!
Although, with wikipedia they can write anything … My professors are all down on Wikipedia as a source… one time we put someone’s name in about how they liked cookies, which had nothing to do with the topic and it stayed there for a day or 2.
The naruto wikipedia entry used to be good and up to date but it looks like they don’t let people write about the manga and speculation stuff.
But it sounds plausible…
its the other way around. sasuke would kick itachi a**
the kyuubi did say sasuke was gifted like madara
peins going to win this battle. he did suck some demon chakra into the huge statue. i believe absorbing the power of the demon, he might then can control that power with his own will
i cant wait when tobi meets up with kakashi. did they even tell whos madara father was? im guessing his father was the strongest uchiha alive and he was way to stronge that the 4th had to use a jutsu to vanish him into another realm (its just a theory)
I hope jiriaya escapes.
Jiriaya must have heard from someone from the leaf village about someone killing a person with the rinnengan because he assumed Nagato was dead. Maybe it was written by the 4th in the stuff that he left behind. Maybe the 4th killed Nagato’s orignal body.
Because… didn’t Jiriaya get a toad from the fourth about the seal and such…
Don’t forget that the old toads can tell Naruto what’s going on if something happens to Jiriaya. If Jiriaya dies, then no one will know about the rinnengan, or maybe it’s a secret like the Kyuubi at Konoha. Ninjas like to keep secrets.
Madara was the first Uchiha… maybe. They said he was the founder of the clan. The theory is that the byakugan plus tengu blood makes an uchiha.
Jiriaya was a real idiot for ditching Nagato, Yahiko and Connan in the first place. I wonder if while he was gone, maybe that’s when Orochimaru started experimenting on people. Because doesn’t it seem weird that the 3rd ran in there without the other Sannin? Maybe the battle with Hanzo or whoever made him crazy because he wasn’t powerful enough so he started doing human experiments to try to become more powerful… and immortal.
sasuke is going to kill itchi and then itachi will tell him that madara help him, so sasuke then will track down madara and thats when naruto will come in and try to stop him………..
so your saying between madara and sasuke, their both going to be the strongest uchiha
but if madara is evil, why did they build a statue of him????
he was one of the founders of Konoha. I think the statues depict an important separation of beliefs or something.
I think each Uchiha has their own unique talents. I think each eye has it’s own unique talent.
I’m not going to talk about power-levels or anything like they do in DBZ, that’s because Kishi used the rock-paper-scissors model of power aka fire earth lighting wind water etc.
SO… each eye has it’s own unique power. That’s why Kakashi’s MS is different from Itachi’s. I think Itachi said something about how Kakashi had become …something something… true user of the … something something… sharingan.
im starting to think that those things in peins face take jutsu and spreads it into other bodies
and that the original body is the 4th lord and he used it to get the rinnengan and other jutsu like one just used to bring dead back to life
it looks like the original pein body is the real 4th lord because it had a zoom in on his ring, the body is just like the 4th, and the real nagato had a long bowl looking cut with black hair
or maybe like siskin the 4th was working with nagato in some way and they staged the 4th’s death or something like that
i dont know there are alot of ways i am thinking about this….
no wonder why the uchiha clan is the strongest clan.
i thought the statue was to represent, who would become the first hokage of the land. i guess madara lost and the uchiha called him a failer and left him to join the the 1st hokage side. then madara knew he was weak so he decided to search for power and thats when he met kyuubi. the ninetail probably gave him power ………..and thats when madara was greedy for more………… so he creat the akatski to search for more demon chakra (its just a theory)
Here’s a thought…
Okokok… SOO… the fourth battled Nagato who was coming to destroy Konoha because it took away Jiriaya. The 4th was there to stop him and Nagato (madara’s in there somewhere) and the Kyuubi was summoned. The 4th was able to mortally wound Nagato and then sacrificed himself to seal the kyuubi. Minato’s body was left without a spirit WHICH Nagato used the rinnengan to jump into. THUS, leaving Jiriaya to believe that Nagato was dead, maybe Madara was alive to summon the Kyuubi and that the 4th’s body disappeared.
The only thing is who would Orochimaru have been summoning during his battle with Sarutobi?
the battle with orochimaru couldve have been the fourth kazekage for the third tube the 3rd hokage stoped it
that’s true, because he had just killed the 4th kazekage. But I got the feeling that the 4th kazekage was week. Although, orochimaru had the element of surpise… THE SIXTH ELEMENT! haha… ha… nm.
Would the Sannin mission against Hanzo have lined up around the same time as Kakashi Gaiden? If so… that would make it so that Obito and Pein were about the same ageish…
you know jiraiya and pein makes everyone looks weak, at first i thought jiraiya was weaker then itachi but know i think hes way to powerful and that makes leaf villege look weak
It’s interesting how old men can be that powerful like the 3rd. But they aren’t that powerful. The leaf village has a ton of powerful shinobi that we haven’t really met yet.
Does anyone know if there are any more tailed beast left besides the ninetails? I forgot if they caught all the others.
the strongest demon ever exist was the kyuubi in naruto…… im guessing it only goes up to nine since they saay naruto has the strongest demon sealed inside of him
the more tail the demon has, the stronger it is
Siskin i don’t think they got the 8 tailed Snake yet but i think its interesting the theory behind it and how it gots its power.
theirs a myth about a 6 headed snake that lives in a cave, i wonder are they going to put that as one of the demons
wow where did u get that from i never read that one?
the name of the six headed snake is “scylla “
oh that’s greek not Japanesse folk tale
does it even matter
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Eight Tails (Hachibi),
Yamata no Orochi
(Also known as Hachimata)
Tale in the Legend of the Tailed Beasts： Yamata no Orochi is a Snake bijuu. It has crimsom red eyes, eight heads and eight tails (also depicted to having trees and vines growing around them) and has the power of the Demon world, a symbol of evil. Each head of Yamata no Orochi represents a symbol: Soul, Ghost, Evil, Devil, Monstrous, Kill, The Afterworld and Death.
Its powers were originally weak, the members of the Kusanagi clan, when attacking it, acted carelessly, using the legendary sword Kusanagi no Tsurugi (Oro’s sword). Because of that, as a consequence, Yamata no Orochi takes the sword from them, absorbing the power contained inside, and becoming an incredibly powerful creature, and finally storing it in its body.
With the new power, Yamata no Orochi releases an insane amount of dark energy, awakening the other Bijuu and becoming arrogant. Yamata no Orochi proceeds to defeat many of the Bijuu, but when it battles with Kyuubi, it is defeated. The cause of this is simple: Kyuubi has an unlimited amount of power, making even a hole in the Kusanagi sword. As this happens, it shows how tremendously powerful Kyuubi is, deserving of the “King of Bijuu†title. Not even Sarutobi and Enma (I’m not sure how those two are into the legend) could scratch the Kusanagi no Tsurugi. (That makes connections to the Oro x Sandaime battle)
Legend also depicted it as having a power able to rival Kyuubi’s [in quality], but the fact is, Yamata no Orochi’s does have a limit.
Situation in the Ancient War of the 9 Gods： Battled 5 times; 4 Wins, 1 Losses
Wins： Shukaku, Isonade, Kaku, Raijuu
Losses： Kyuubi
Fate： Yamata no Orochi awaits a genius of the Yagami (NOT the Kanji of Yagami from Death Note, but Yagami as in Eight Gods: 八神) clan, which is the arch enemy of the Kusanagi clan. The purpose is to awake it [Yamata no Orochi], in order to fight Kyuubi again.
Since Yamata no Orochi’s power inherits in the Yagami Clan, If the heir appears as the first genius in 1000 years that is able to awake Yamata no Orochi’s ability, it will be completely restored. Once the process is done, the genius with such crucial task will be destroyed due to the true body of Yamata no Orochi resurfacing, which has an all-new power. It won’t be found before the decisive battle with Kyuubi, and will be able to kill no matter of thing, destroy any type of place, and attain infinite vision (as Kyuubi has). The core of Yamata no Orochi’s power is in a kind of forbidden sealing jutsu. As soon as the Yagami clan heir comprehends enough of it, a bigger, much stronger power will surface in the grasp of Yamata no Orochi.
Japanese Myth Appearance: A super Snake of Eight heads and Eight tails, attached to a single body. Has a deep brown color. It definitely is the biggest bijuu – the lenghth of it is over eight mountains. Originally, it was weaker than Houkou and Nekomata; however, that was 1000 years before a brave warrior tried defeating it with the Kusanagi no Tsurugi. In the process, the sword’s power is absorbed instead by Yamata no Orochi, thus greatly expanding his power. He continues though to be able to use freely the sword in his belly.
Ability: The legendary sword: Kusanagi no Tsurugi; summoning of evil spirits
Bijuu Strength Ranking： 2nd
Bijuu Chakra/Stamina Ranking： 2nd
Symbolic Element： Devil
Origin / Discovered in： An old battlefield in Osaka
Personal notes: Now, everyone knows this one resembles Orochimaru, but what I like is the “Yagami genius†legend, which OF COURSE screams Sasuke.
More info about Yamata no Orochi:
There is the story of the killing of the Eight-Headed Serpent by Susanoo. According to the legend, a local town had been living in fear of the Serpent, and the townspeople offered the sacrifice of a young girl each year to keep it appeased. Lord Susano heard about the town’s dilemma, and became determined to slay the beast. He exterminated the serpent by serving it alcohol, and then cutting off its heads while it was intoxicated. Between the Kagura performances, this one is the most famous.
the akatski only got 3 demons. the first one was shukaku the sand spirit the one tail demon
some of the beast was sealed into sacred ornaments like vases and statues and such.
That is interesting…
I don’t think I’ve heard of them catching the 8 headed snake. Sounds like something out of Godzilla, with giant monsters battling.
I wonder with the Kyuubi’s power split in half, will that effect the battle?
I think their are more powerful “demons” in the naruverse that we haven’t been informed of yet. And this eight tailed snake sounds like one of them. The tengu sounds like another.
Scrubby, do you think this whole deal with Orochimaru was what Kishi was playing off of?
And the power of the sword sounds like what Kisame has.
Really? when did that happen? I skimmed some of the manga so I didn’t catch that.
so they probably was easy to attain those ones like that so the manga’s might not had went into detail on there capture, but if i remember correctly Itachi said the search for Naruto would to be the last peice that Akatsuki needed and now in the manga’s they are looking for him now so i think they really just about got them all.
Sorry, I meant your comment Scrubby about the sealing of beasts in jars or something.
And this thread has some of the awesomest theories and such between Shino Aburame and Scrubby’s assessment on the eight tailed snake… I think they deserve their own posts.
yeah, I’m kinda dissappointed that naruto didn’t get another pal that had a bijuu like gaara. I guess that would get in the way of filling his need for Sasuke to be his brother.
They could have taken naruto so many times. I don’t understand why they had to wait two years and why did Itachi go to see naruto before? And then run away because Jiraiya was too powerful…
I think that Orochi the 8-beast might be Orochimaru in Naruto because the sword that Orochimaru used to kill the 3rd and fought Tsunda and Jariaya with could be the same as in the Legend but there are also big hole in my reasoning about it though. Just my thought
If u look up Japanesse folk tale in google it breaks down all 9 beast and where they was sealed at and there battles between eachother and why kyuubi was the Strongest out of all them. do u want me to do a summary of them all?
I have a theory that Orochimaru may have made it into sasuke. And sasuke did get his snake abilities… It’s possible that Orochimaru is the snake. He did battle four-tails naruto… But… I don’t want to believe Orochimaru was a Jinchurychi.
Him and Jiraiya are just able to look like the animals they summon, and I think Tsunade can transform too, but we just haven’t seen it yet.
do you have a link?
check this out forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=57918 – 187k
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=57918
i dont even know how you guys look for these things
lol well i finally figured out the six “element” and it is Thunder.
the 4th Minato used a move call the “God of Thunder ” teleportation technique which make me think he was taught the 6th Element of Thunder. What do everyone think about that?
wow, when naruto change into the nine tail cloak, the chakra surrounding him is fire
i didnt read the whole page it was way to long
the 4th got to be really stronge, isnt the “God of Thunder” technique where you move really fast as if you through another demension or something
google and wikipedia I assume. Narutofan I think is up their on google searches of naruto manga.
wasn’t there a talk once about how some high level ninja’s can master more than one element? So it seems like it would be possible. I don’t think it’s thunder though, the void teleportation nothing time shift thing seems just as likely to be part of the 6th element.
it could be, like some old time treveling moving, everytime they time trevel, thunder appears and a hole opens………… blah blah blah bahlahla blah .. ………………..
are we at some sort of record for length?
This page could become a bijuu!
Thunder can’t be an element, its sound. And even though Orochimaru created the Sound Village, I think Thunder would be elementally translated into wind/air, which both Naruto and the Fourth had as thier elemental chakra.
The 4th could have used the wind to carry him so fast that he broke the sound/dimension barrier.
Interesting post Scrubby, but I’m pretty sure Orochimaru wasn’t a jinchuriki.
Siskin: I know you can’t use wikipedia as a source and sometimes it is corrupt. One of my professors said that wikipedia was a great source of knowledge but should only be used for theories not evidence. Also I’m pretty sure Pein is older than Minato and since Pein has never lost a battle he probably didn’t fight Minato when the Kyuubi came to Konoha because that would mean that he lost a battle.
I have always wondered what the fourth was doing before he showed up to seal the Kyuubi. He could’ve been preparing Naruto to be the host or something. But nobody knew where he was while they were trying to fight off the Kyuubi.
I just thought of something… what if Pein realizes what Jiraiya told him before he “killed” him, and then he decides to change his ways and Jiraiya lives. Probably not because then the rest of the story would end up being kinda boring.
Wow, you guys turned this into a 3-way chatroom!
He y Scrubby, you know what you should do? You should write a blog about the tailed beasts. I’ll help if you need me.
Shino,
I think he would have won or it would have been considered a draw if the fourth died and Nagato took over his body. Plus, Pein has never lost a battle, not Nagato. About the age thing… well.. I’ll have to look into it. It would be nice if Kishi gave us a timeline.
J-sama,
And yeah… I guess it really was like a chat room… maybe bob should look into that chat room thing.
Oh, and could you put your shirt back on?
i think itachi wil escape the first time and then sasuke wil kil itachi at the end of shippuuden
jiraya telled naruto not to use kyuubi’s chakra because he wil injure himself and with the chakra he heals himself automaticly and it wil shorten his life
oh and j-sama sorry that you almost died :p
Is it possible that each one of Pein’s six bodies can only be killed while fighting in their “realm”. Either that, or they can only be killed by a “Byakugan or Sharingan” user?
hinata’s dad probably could beat pein, i mean he probably has alot of jutsu better than neji and he has more experience, but i dont think that would happen
That would be an interesting fight, but I highly doubt Hinata’s dad would be able to defeat Pein. You forget there are still 3 bodies of Pein that hasn’t shown us their abilities yet. Also.. the Hyuuga use mainly Taijutsu, so they must not have a lot of defenses against summons.
Thing is, my guess is that even summons have chakra points… so theoretically, members of the Hyuga should still be able to stop the flow of Chakra using Juunken.
you all seem to forget kiraiya’s ace in the hole.. he still has an unlimited supply of Kabuki poses he can use to defeat pien lol
jiraiya****
i still think pein will defeat jiraiy but jiraiya will be left injured but still alive
J-sama thanks i’ll try and get some more up too date info on the current tailed beast to be captured and what’s your e-mail address?
the reason why i can’t agree with “void” being the 6 element is that the way everyone derieve to the conclusion, leaves me with so many hole in void being the 6 element because of it orignal meaning.
i agree, it has to be lightning
the way pein got to get his forces, is that he trasfered his mind….or told the others to be on thier way…after all he can control more than one.
i cant think what is the 6th element
NSS7 you has to be right lightning is it because lightning has some of these charteristics –
1. Teleportation- because it has a starting point and finishing point.(God of Thunder and possible the flicker techniques can be associated with this charteristic)
2. Sound- It can be inturpted as most of the sound villiage ninja’s abilities with genjutsu added to it now.
3. Power- Does have destructive properties or maybe in the ninja world we can conclude that forbidden Jutsu’s like Kinjutsu’s can be compared. huh?
4. Speed- Moves faster than sound. The best example i can possibly give is in the Kakashi Gaiden series Minato kill a whole army by himself to protect Kakashi and Obito in a snap of a finger.
And if anyone can figure out more plz share it with me plz thz.
Lightning is already one of the 5 known elemental chakra:
1) earth
2) fire
3) lightning
4) water
5) wind
I think sound can’t be an element because it is just a manipulation of air/wind. And I can’t figure out how Thunder could be any different because it is the sound product of lightning.
I do agree that “void” isn’t the sixth element only because it would be more powerful that all of the other elements and weaker than none (which is how they work).
Remember both Kakashi and Sasuke are lightning elemental chakra users.
You guys are slipping.. Lightning is already one of the known five.. Chidori and Raikiri belong to the lightning category. According to J-sama’s post some time ago, he said the Japanese elements are Fire, Lightning, Water, Wind, Earth and Void. If this is accurate then the last element is void, as the series is made by a Japanese person who likes to take things from Japanese culture.
Also while it is true that summons may have tenketsu’s they are also large and most of them quick. It would be extremely hard for a Hyuuga to hit it’s chakra points. I mean think about it.. Neji going against Gama Bunta.. Who do you think will come out victorious..
oh man u two r right i really drop the ball on that one
Hyuuga eyes might do some good against rennigan eye but what we will never know until we see the true power of the hyuuga.
i dont get how can the sharingan got developed from the hyuuga, their eye powers are way different from the uchiha
I think the final battle will be
Bad Guys: Madara Uchiha/Tobi and Pein
VS.
Good Guys: Sasuke, Naruto, Itachi, Sakura, and Neji… and I’ll throw Shikamaru in there cause no battle should be without him.
I also think that at some point Naruto will have to fight the Kyuubi, whether it be inside of his own psyche or physically. It has to happen at some point, especially if Naruto ever wants to have full and complete control over the Kyuubi’s power without it destroying him from within.
Lightning = sixth element? What? Bah! Drop and give me 20 right now!
Yeah I think so too Shikamaru.. Something that also has to happen is that the Kyuubi must be extracted from Naruto, which will be the climax of the series. It’s what Akatsuki is working towards, I mean they’re not gonna do all that work and have it stop at seven bijuu.. it’s kind of like the point that happens in a story where everything seems hopeless.
Which also makes me wonder how Naruto is gonna survive.. Sakura will probably have something to do with that, which is why the story made her a medical ninja.
The final battle might actually include the Kyuubi on the bad side. After all, Madara did originally summon it. You know what’d be bad ass? The final battle being Naruto’s classmates, Yamato, Sai plus Gai’s team versus all the Bijuu. Then have Naruto, Sakura, Sasuke, and Kakashi (team seven) versus Pein, Madara and the ninetails. GRAND BATTLE!!
dude its like smarter to put the manga first then discuss it because if the discussion comes first then the story is ruined.
so a smarter idea is to do the actual manga chapter then the discussion
well tu ama, most of us read the manga chapter asap on friday and the blogs bob posts are pretty spot on in summary. Go to http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns on fridays and u will be caught up then it wont be spoiled cause u will already know =)
The blog entries are just quick posts I try to do right after the manga translations are released because I know ppl are just itching to start talking about the new chapter. The write-ups in the manga section (I think that’s what you’re referring to) take a little more time, so that comes after. Like Gohosku said, most ppl here who comment here know where to find the latest chapters asap.
I really appreciate all that you do for our entertainment Bob!
Plus I’m number 200!
Hei guys, just a thought occurred to me right now. Its clear that the eyes are very advantageous, whichever they are – Byakugan, Sharingan or obviously Rinnegan. So my question – why none of the Kages, especially Kazekages have an eye ability? Konoha has sharingan and baykugan and none of these clans had a powerfull enough shinobi to become a Kazekage? Uchihas had what, 3 chances after Madara didn’t succeed. Maybe the eyes are not that powerful in the first place? Maybe there are some ways to beat Pein easily then, since it seems a normal individual through hard work can get shit loads of bad ass jitsus and kick everyones butts and become Kazegage.. Hopefully Naruto will do just this thing.
hey guyz i think i didn’t have all the information and ideas to bkack yo uguyz up you’re so advanced hu… amm… do you really think that the the kyubbi ksn be separated from naruto?… guesse don’t have the chance… what i think is that naruto can rule over the demo fox’s intentions at the end then he can control the kyuubi’s chakra without harming himself….
Elerium, I don’t think people from those clans reach the KAGE level because their work isn’t solely based on hard work. The “gifted” shinobi seem to have a pride weakness. Their main techniques all revolve around whatever the gift is (byakugan, rinnegan, sharingan). Guy had an advantage against Sharingan users because he voided their eye contact. Kidomaru could have beaten Neji because he figured out exactly what the byakugans abilities are.
So far, there hasn’t been a shinobi in any village that has reached the Kage level that has been part of a specific “clan”. All Kage’s have been the hardest working and most caring ninja.
Ninja that don’t have a “gift” or one “specialty” seem to be the strongest opponents in the Naruverse. They said the Third Hokage knew every Jutsu in Konoha. The First and Second had abilities that have only bee seen in 2 other ninja in the Naruverse… The First (Yamato) and the Second (Kisame).
I think all its gonna take is for someone to analyze Peins complete ability, then he will be defeated, and the TRUE villian in the Naruverse will be revealed. Pein seems to be a small part of a bigger picture.
Wow! 204 comments! I think it’s the 1st time any blog’s gotten over 200 comments on Shannaro!!!
all i can say is pein is not the real villain
lol i know this is totally off topic but i was gettin rdy for class and it popped in my head.. so naruto failed the ninja exams a couples times before he passed right?.. shouldnt he be older then every1 else?
Gohusku… Not necessarily… The Genin exams were more frequent than the Chuunin exams. The Chuunin exams were held twice a year.
I think what he failed were only the exams for the bunshin no jutsu, and those exams were probably not as important as the ‘final’ exam which he needed to graduate, and he passed that one.
I have seen somewere on a site that one of the bodies was that of yahiko.And also that the fight between sasuke and itachi finally begins.I dont know if this is true but it would be pretty cool
Fire, Water, Air, Lighting, and Earth are the known five elements. SO Lighting can’t be the six. Also Thunder is a sound that Lighting makes after it strikes. SO Thunder is a sound…and I don’t think sound is an element. If anything it should be Time cause Time has to do with everything. Life, Death, Healing, Hurting, Growing, Decaying…Time has to do with all of it. But yeah those are just my two cents…
I disagree about pein. I think he is one of the main villains. I think he is going to join his bodies together to stick in an uchiha which will form a Tengu which is one of the most powerful demons which is the reincarnation of the sage of the six paths, which Minato saw coming because everyone knows about the uchihas but it’s kept a secret like the nine-tails.
Gaara of the dessert,
Desserts the food you know. Desert is the place with sand.
It sounds like you read a spoiler, which may or may not be true. I think we’ll have to wait until tomorrow. I believe that body must either be Yahiko or the 4th. Jiraiya is probably going to reveal it before he dies and ma and pa toad will tell naruto.
They have to tie the 4th back into the story because he sealed the fox in naruto for an IMPORTANT reason.
And a reason why no Eye-techniques were ever kage level could be because the Kages knew of the evils of the two techniques and Hyuuga’s are trying to be less visible because the demon used them to make the uchihas.
J-sama,
could you please… put a shirt on? I’m in a computer lab and I have people looking over my shoulder at your bare chest.
I don’t think the rinnengan is genetic
I really think we need to break this out into categories.
We have discussions on…
eye techniques
the final battle
naruto time-line
the sixth element
the eight tailed snake
the significance of the 6 peins
…
and J-sama putting on a shirt…
HAHaha… You can keep the picture on if you want. I thought maybe you’d say something but you’re really acting way to cool and if I were shino I’d be sulking. And if I were naruto I’d be really pissed off…. but I’m neither.
Or Kakashi would say: “Huh? Did you say something, Siskin?”
But I was intending to put a shirt on when the new chapter comes out anyway.
if I was Guy I’d be saying “Arrrgghh… why is that guy so cool? I will challenge myself to 1000 stinkeyes… “
Well i think somehow Pein is going to be push to the brink of being defeated to transform into a full Sage or something like that,because usually in Naruto a villian is push to the limits to bring out the best in them. Pein will not be the last Villian and Madara or Tobi either. Just a thought i do think with the abilities Pein is showing right now Minato could defeat him, and if Jariaya was younger he would defeat Pein and plus why would they have the badest villian be fighting Jariaya instead of Naruto.
it should be naruto, sasuke and sakura fighting the baddest villians
dude this blog got to 218 already WOW
hey gohosku thanks dude for the website
rock lee would say ” J-sama i see this is part of the training”
hey has 380 come out yet, i’m seeing all types of spoilers on the web. I just want to know the truth, its annoying.
if u guys want to see naruto faster than this, go to youtube and search the videos. i recomend saschid and 009slek
“J-sama,
could you please… put a shirt on? I’m in a computer lab and I have people looking over my shoulder at your bare chest.”
I lol’d
Maybe we should have a shirtless avatar day or something
The official record of most comments in a post is 233:
http://www.narutohurricane.com/narutoblog/2007/09/15/naruto-manga-chapter-370-uneasiness/
Unofficially, it could be this one, but it’s technically not a “post”
http://www.narutohurricane.com/narutoblog/2007/09/20/test-post-1/
what’s the best place to read the manga the earliest online?
“I believe that body must either be Yahiko or the 4th. ”
There’s some validity to Pein being Minato since he is/was also one of Jiraiya’s students so he could fit the bill for the “destined child” as well. He would also refer to Jiraiya as “sensei” like Pein is doing. Plus, Pein never confirmed to Jiraiya that he “is” Nagato.”
But on the other hand, there’s no evidence of Minato having any connection to the Rinnegan or the Sage of the Six Paths. And there’s also the fact that Orochimaru attempted (but failed) to resurrect him in the battle vs the 3rd, so he is likely already dead.
Well Bob tomorrow i hope will shed some light on that misconception, because i agree with u on that one. maybe Jariaya figured out a weakness to pein abilities or something.
But i do wonder what is going to make Pein unite his Paths and become a full Sage?
ok itachis partner stops hebi and only lets sasuke get to itachi
the body that looks like the 4th is yahiko, nagatos old partner
tobi runs into the leaf ninjas
and kisame is that water duds old sempai
Referring back to siskin some 20 blog or so… I am sulking… but its because there is a reason that I haven’t been seen without a shirt on in all the Naruto’s! Jiraiya has a nicer body then me and he’s old!!!
I think it was Zetsu who runs into the leaf ninja
Now that I think about it, it is hard to say who is older… Pein or Minato. I mean if you looked at pictures of Jiraiya when he was their Sensais thenit looks like he was older when he trained Pein, but I had always thought that they had the war before he trained Minato. But now that I think about it, the war could be the same war as in Kakashi Gaiden. They were both fights against the Earth country. That would mean that Minato is older than Pein and so is Kakashi
I guess the new one comes out today, I wonder what new knowledge will be given to us this time!
Ok so the real reason that I put all of these comments is to beat the record and I figured that today would be the last day to do it so…
NEW RECORD!!!!
sweet!!
Well, like Bob said- it’s a new record if we don’t count the test-blog (and i think we shouldn’t count it!). This is very good, because it shows the steady increase of popularity of ‘Shannaro!!!’ That’s a huge benefit for the site, and where the site benefits, so do we.
but this record wil be hard to break next time
yep ithis is the longest blog section i ever seen also well see everyone after the new manga come out later today.
I know we’re all excited about the longest blog… maybe next time we can break up the discussion instead of going for a record. Kinda like when they were pursuing Sasuke and they split up to battle each of the sound ninja… you know?
I think Pein Kakashi and Obito/Tobi were roughly the same age. It would then also make sense that naruto was born and the Nine-tails attachs Konoha not too long after Jiraiya left and also not too long after Obito was supposed to have been left to die. So, perhaps the attack was the two of them lashing out with the nine-tailed fox to destroy Konoha.
“I think Pein Kakashi and Obito/Tobi were roughly the same age” Hmm… I believe that Pein is older than Kakashi, because the 3 Sannin met him at the middle of the war & Kakashi was about 14 years old when it ended. Pein was about 10 at the middle of the war which lasted for more than 10 years, which would mean that hi is probably 2 or 3 years older than Kakashi.
Oh and also Scrubby chek your e-mail.
when is the new manga chapter coming out today????????
It just came out 30 minutes ago tranlated. Here’s a link: http://saiyanisland.com/ Just click on the right side of the screen under the updates category.
The new manga chapter is sick… All the great fights could be going down now (or more likely the next 20 or so chapters).
were u watch it?