Naruto Manga chapter 378: One-on-One

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November 17th, 2007 · 122 Comments

Post Author: Bob

Jiraiya knows from the battle so far that he cannot beat Peinâ€™s trio, especially with them sharing three sets of eyes and the chubby guy gulping up all his ninjutsus. Time for plan B: Run Away! Jiraiya buys some time by hiding in the sewers below the city while Pa thinks up of a good plan to counter Peinâ€™s summoned minions. Also, note the first two panels of the chapter showing all three of Peinâ€™s team dangling some kind of black belt or cloth from their right sleeves. Just what is that?

Pa toad gives a good analogy about how Peinâ€™s Rinnegans function. All three of them share each otherâ€™s points of view all at once - kind of like a security station with displays from all the cameras in front of you. This is how the three of them can time their attack and defence so perfectly. And unlike the Byakugan, they can cover each otherâ€™s blind spots without using any additional chakra. Jiraiya figures he can take each of them on if itâ€™s a one-on-one battle but neither his ninjutsu nor his taijutsu can get through their tag team attacks. Jiraiya has never been much of a genjutsu user and Nagato (Pein), being one of his former students, knows this. So Jiraiya looks to his two toad companions for help.

But Ma toad is really against doing it because their genjutsu style is through sound and it requires she and Pa to sing (croak) together - something Ma is embarrassed to do at her age. However, the fate of the world may depend on it, so they have no choice but to try. The problem is it may take some time to get their voices in the right melody , but the sound will allow Pein to track them down in the pipes. Jiraiya has a plan to buy them some time and they begin preparing.

The toads began singing and the deafening sound rattles the surrounding pipes. Pein recognizes it as genjutsu and traces the sound through the pipes. Pein and the two others charge at Jiraiya and the toads, but a shadow clone of Jiraiyaâ€™s, which hid himself in the walls using toad silhouette form, appears from behind and unleashed a giant fireball blast from behind. The fat guy jumps in front of it to absorb the attack, but Jiraiya expected this and now knows that each member of Peinâ€™s team can only use one type of technique. Right now the fat one is blinded by his cloneâ€™s fire attack, and the thin one has his eyes closed, meaning that the only one with a clear field of vision is Pein himself.

As Pein and the thin one charge towards him, Jiraiya unleashes a fireball attack himself. Pein and his companion leap up to avoid it, but Jiraiya has set up a jutsu trap in the ceiling and a Swamp of the Underworld consumes then thin guy. Finally, Jiraiya has gotten Pein by himself, and with the toadsâ€™ genjutsu almost complete, it looks like the situation has reversed itself.

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122 responses so far ↓

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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 1:43 am

Jiraiya RUUUUUUUUULLLLLLZZZZ!!
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 1:44 am

But altough he has the upper hand now, the plot will probably be twisted so that Pein wins.
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 1:49 am

At the end of the chapter it says the next chapter will be the conclusion of the fight. That’s more than enough time for either of them to win.
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Shino Aburame ()
// Nov 17, 2007 at 1:52 am

Run Jiraiya! I think that is the smartest thing he can do… If he fights Pein longer he will be able to kill some of the bodies, but I think that Pein will beat him, Pein has been holding back for most of the fight it seems. I think he is trying to conserve his chakra. Either way this fight is getting intense! I hope Jiraiya wins! But I also want to see Naruto fight Pein. What are those belt things anyway?
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Shino Aburame ()
// Nov 17, 2007 at 1:56 am

If the next one will conclude the battle then I think that Pein will win. I mean he is the leader of Akutsuki and he was just barely introduced! He was given the command to personally get Naruto, so if he loses then that was a short Naruto life for him.
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Shino Aburame ()
// Nov 17, 2007 at 2:00 am

It just occurred to me that Jiraiya might win. If he kills off these three bodies he might think that he one but Pein will still have three more and Jiraiya will leave with the victory but Pein will still be alive and wanting revenge… its a possibility.
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 2:15 am

That last one would be the best scenario I think.
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 2:15 am

I don’t think Jiraiya will lose, at least not die, in the next chapter if it is indeed the conclusion. Look how long Sarutobi’s death took, and I think Jiraiya is a more important character than him.
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 2:19 am

Need sleep now, thanks 4 the early comments guys. Cyas Laters.
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 2:24 am

G’night, Bob.
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Shino Aburame ()
// Nov 17, 2007 at 2:24 am

Quick off topic thing… sorry… I don’t know if this has already been said or not, but I was looking at Itachi’s and Kakashi’s MS eyes and they are different! I found this out on wikipedia under an article called “Sharingan” Maybe this has to do with three MS users unlocking the Uchiha demon… sorry again for going off topic. Were rooting for you Jiraiya!
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Shino Aburame ()
// Nov 17, 2007 at 2:32 am

Actually just google MS and look at images, dang wikipedia changed the sight again.
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Lovething (Rookie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 3:02 am

Shino’s right. Jiraiya should run away now that he has the upper hand. Pein can easily summon 3 more bodies, leaving Jiraiya, ma and pa fighting against new enemies with new jutsus.

I’m not sure that genjistu will work on Pein anyway. Look at when Kurenai tried to put Itachi under genjitsu. He completely turned it around on her.

I’m sure that the Rinnegan is more powerful than Itachi’s or Kakashi’s current level of Mangekyo Sharingan.

Jiraiya has also done some major moves. Does he have enough chakra to fight more of Pein’s bodies?

I really don’t want him to die!!
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TEMARI XD (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 4:58 am

i dont think jiraya will die, at least not yet. Theres alot he needs to tell naruto about for example his seal and this awesome jutsu and i think he will do it in person
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tee (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 8:11 am

If Jiraiya loses he should at least survive and go back to the leaf to teach naruto some more jutsu so if and when he fights pein he will be ready. Right now Jiraiya is the only one who has seen Peins jutsu and I don’t think Pein is going to let him live to tell the story. Sorta speak!
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tee (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 8:13 am

I think Jiraiya needs to live to tell naruto everything about himself like who his parents are and show him all of his fathers jutsu, i think the jutsu he wants to teach naruto is the teleportation jutsu. The one that gave the fourth his name as the yellow flash. Narutos speed would be awesome.
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tee (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 8:16 am

I think you should update the character stats to let everyone the level of the characters.
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Namikaze Uzamaki (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 8:20 am

I wonder what Naruto’s reaction will be when the frog J-sama sent ahead with the scroll to unlock naruto’s seal reaches Naruto. I am sure he will be alarmed and will come after J-sama. Jiraiya will never die.
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Lovething (Rookie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 8:36 am

@ Namizake. Good point. If Jiraiya dies and that frog reaches Naruto, there’s the risk that the yin and yang Kuubi chakras will be united and completely overwhelm Naruto.

Natuto can’t even handle the Kuubi chakra he has now…
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 10:09 am

Well i think Jiraiya is going to run out of chakra and ma and pa frog is going to convince Jiraiya to retreat when Pein summons another two guys who would be way stronger than the other two and can do more powerful jutsu’s than those first two did.
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 10:28 am

i can see now how Pein beat hanzo is to use his summons of other fighters that he control from a distant and make his opponent use all there chakra up and then he goes for the kill. But a guy like Naruto who has an unlimited source of chakra with him using his and the kyuubi’s chakra he can beat Pein ,but he has to get much stronger though. Ican’t see Jiraiya getting killed in this battle the way ma and pa frog talk like they know a great escape jutsuthat will let they not get killed.
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yourshoe (Chunin)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 10:45 am

ya i im pretty sure that j man gonna help kill off some of peins bodys, go back to konoha, tell naruto and everybody some way stop help them kill pein, naruto cant end yet you know. then when neruto and them eventually got to kil pein theyll kill all of peins bodys untill the originall is left(possibly nagato) but then the uchiha demon will be unleashed by sasuke, tom, itachi and then that demon is maybe rikoudou sennin and it might do somehting to help or kill pein and youse the almighty origanal rinengan and make the fight alot harder for all the ninja but then sand ninja will arrive and help fend ppl off such as tom while the konoha main characters fihgt the demon
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yourshoe (Chunin)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 10:46 am

i mean when they go to kill pein not when they got to kill pein
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nhj (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 11:05 am

i’m just waiting ’till naruto and sasuke have the rematch

SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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TEMARI XD (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 11:21 am

there is alot of akatsuki and other bad guys left…im wating for a huge battle to happen with the sasuke and naruto rematch as well a sort of ninja battle royal…that would kick so much ass
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TEMARI XD (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 11:26 am

jiraiya cannot lose i mean ,trainer of naruto AND his dad THE fourth hokage, theres gotta be something big that will happen! and at the end of the manga it said ‘conclusion of the fight?!’ theres a question mark……i dont think its gunna be over yet
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 11:34 am

The fight I’m really looking forward to is the one between Kisame and Suigetsu. There is probably gonna’ be one, since it’s supposedly the main reason Suigetsu went with Sasuke. That’ll be intense.
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 11:38 am

Lovething, about what you said earlier. About Genjutsus not working on Itachi, so it might not work on Pein. From what people have gathered, the sharingan is a mix of the Bayakugan and the Rinnegan. So far the Rinnegan has shown an ability to negate ninjutsus, but not any form of Taijutsu. But the Bayakugan shows an aptitude for countering Taijutsu. Mix them together and you probably create the sharingan’s ability to reverse Genjutsu. What I’m getting at is that the Rinnegan might not be quite as versetile as the sharingan, so Genjutsus still might work. ^_^;;
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Namikaze Uzamaki (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 12:37 pm

I wonder if Tsunade would have been worried enough to have Jiraiya followed or if she would have followed him herself. After all she told him she would come if he needed. I think there is alot about Jiraiya that we dont know as well, I think we can expect some more surprises from him in terms of his techniques. Dont count him out. After all he is a sanin of Konoha.
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Namikaze Uzamaki (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 12:40 pm

If the legend is true and Pein is the chosen one, what would keep Jiraiya from using the same forbidden jutsu Minato used to seal Kyubi. After all the situation suggest that if Jiraiya falls the faith of the world is sealed.
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Namikaze Uzamaki (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 12:42 pm

has anyone seen or heard anything about the new Naruto Shippuuden movie that came out in August? I’d like to know how that ties in with the manga.
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MinatoKamikaze (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 12:47 pm

hmmm… i think jiraya will die… SORRY!!! i mean if you look at the writer’s point of view. Jiraya would defend Naruto to the death, and we all know he is no pushover, i think we are finally going to see Naruto on his own after jiraya dies and see his full potential, sorry to bring this up but… anyone read harry potter? **SPOILER IF YOU HAVE BEEN A HERMIT FOR A FEW YEARS** j.k. killed of dumbledore so there would be no one between harry and voldermort, maybe this is kind of the same thing…
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MinatoKamikaze (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 12:49 pm

like maybe he want no one, or anyone strong enough, between Naruto and Pein or the akatsku…. just a theory… hope i am wrong thought :)… I think that jiraya is currently the strongest shinobi in konoha right now, so he will probably be killed off eventually so Naruto will become strongest/hokage/whatever…
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Namikaze Uzamaki (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 12:51 pm

But if Jiraiya will die,why then he wouldnt summon the God of death to Steal Pein’s soul? Remember when Sarutobi was mortally injured he did this in attempt to kill Orochimaru.
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Namikaze Uzamaki (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 12:54 pm

Bob, anything new to add?????
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 1:03 pm

Nef that’s why i really think that the Sharingan is the strongest once full developed, because the weaknesses of the Rinnegan. Would have no affect on a Sharingan user and the Bayakugan the same that’s why Madara father reckonize the same thing that if the 2 eyes was combined it would be the strongest eye so that’s why he had Madara to take his body when he was old enough to handle a soul transfer jutsu, but Madara escaped his father.
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 5:21 pm

“But if Jiraiya will die,why then he wouldnt summon the God of death to Steal Peinâ€™s soul? ”

That’s a possibility, since both Sarutobi and Minato knew this technique, I’m sure Jiraiya picked it up too. But at this point in the battle, I don’t think Jiraiya would resort to a suicide technique just yet. And it doesn’t appear that Jiraiya is ashamed of running away either, so I think he’ll survive this encounter.
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 5:22 pm

“I think you should update the character stats to let everyone the level of the characters.”

Jiraiya and Pein’s techniques have been updated
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 5:26 pm

Jiraiya also has tons more “research” to do (and I don’t mean jutsu research) to die just yet. There are so many more hot springs and bath houses to “visit”. And if he does die, would Naruto have to take on the legacy of his ero-books?
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Itachi_ (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 5:27 pm

hrm… i reli dont think J-sama is going to die here because we hve a stronger enemy awaiting for them “Madara”. so he would probaby take on Pein or maybe escape then go teach Naruto new jutsu or somtin that he can take on Pein later on. At this point, Madara is the one giving order to Pein so im thinking this is the tim for Pein to die and then ther would be more chances to reveal about the new leader or strongest enemy “Madara”. so yea thats wat i think and also i hope that naruto has some sort of bloodline. Dam that would be awesome
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 6:39 pm

It’s a legacy of perverseness! From the Third Hokage, to Jiraiya, to Minato, to Kakashi and finally to Naruto. The chronological chain of the horny Titans! XD
I bet Kakashi would be the one to take over the creation of the ero-books! XD He is Jiraiya’s number-one fan, after all.
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 6:51 pm

The shinigami technique takes the soul out of a body, but which body of Pein’s would Jiraiya use it on. If you pull the soul out of one, it might pull the soul out of all of them.. It might not.. He could use Kage Bunshins, but Pein still has three bodies left. Perhaps in the next episode he’ll summon more bodies right before the genjutsu is completed. His original body would definitely be his last resort, as it probably has the ability to use the Rinnegan’s ‘true’ powers.
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 7:01 pm

“The chronological chain of the horny Titans”
Ah Nef, where would this blog be without you and your masterful vocabulary? LOL

“I bet Kakashi would be the one to take over the creation of the ero-books!”
Kakashi seems more like the reader-only type, he’s too lazy outside of battles to do write a book. The Sharingan may be of some use for peeping– er.. research, but I think the Byakugan would work even better. Hmmm… I wonder if that’s how Neji honed his skills
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 7:04 pm

“If you pull the soul out of one, it might pull the soul out of all of them.. It might not.. He could use Kage Bunshins”

Here’s a question: when you create shadow clones, you split your chakra amongst your clones, but do you also split your soul amongst them as well (or rather copied amongst them)?
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 7:17 pm

“I wonder if thatâ€™s how Neji honed his skills”. You’ve offered us a link to prove the Hyuuga skills, Bob! ;D http://one-of-the-clayr.deviantart.com/art/Naruto-Fan-Comic-15-43669589
Wouldn’t somebody splitting up pieces of their soul weaken them? The creator of the clones probably leaves a specific thumb-print in each of their clones with their chakara, but it’d be suicide to chop their soul into dozens of tiny pieces.
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Quazzie1234 (Rookie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 7:56 pm

I just think Jiraiya will kill Pein, but of course Pein has several other bodies so this form of Pein will most likely die, but he will just go to a different body.
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 8:04 pm

True. There’s odds that Pein will never be killed. Not if he can continuously jump from body to body.
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 8:49 pm

Maybe Pein’s original body is controlling all of the other bodies, and if you kill his original body then he’ll die. Sort of like a vampire ninja! Also, Jiraiya said that all of the bodies have a unique ability, maybe I missed it but did the thinner guy show any special abilities yet? Is he just fast? That doesn’t seem too special.
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 8:53 pm

Nope, the thin guy hasn’t landed a single blow on J-sama thus far, I don’t know why Pein even bothered with him, the chubby guy’s technique is much more useful. And Peinn should start giving his summons name tags, I’m tired of saying ‘fat guy’, ‘thin guy’.
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Akatsuki Leader (Newbie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 9:30 pm

Jaraia is doing pretty well, but the akatsuki always turn things around.
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lackadaisical ninja (Rookie)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 9:39 pm

if jaraiya dies who will tell naruto whats going on. it would leave to much shuffling to fill in the big horny gap that would be left behind by j-samas death.
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Nov 17, 2007 at 11:34 pm

Yeah Jiraiya probably won’t die in this fight. Unlike Granny Chiyo and the Third, Jiraiya actually has a great purpose in the story. What with the whole ‘Fate of the world’ thing and all.
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naruto y (Newbie)
// Nov 18, 2007 at 1:50 am

I think that Jiraya wil be havy injured and that he wil be saved by Tsunade
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Minato Kamikaze (Rookie)
// Nov 18, 2007 at 5:19 am

eh.. well we can find out soon, i hope
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NSS7 (Sanin)
// Nov 18, 2007 at 12:13 pm

jiraiya is goin to get killed, and it will be up to naruto to see that the ninetail chakra is too powerful to control so naruto will try to go beyond 4 tail kyuubi form to kill pein and kill himself too
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Nov 18, 2007 at 2:23 pm

I think Jiraiya is not worried about being killed by Pein, because as long as he got ma and pa toad is there on his shoulders they can use a escape jutsu to get out of harms way. So Jiraiya is just seeing if he can defeat “hell path”or hell body that Pein is using to try an defeat Jiraiya by using killer massive summoning techniques of all sorts. This reminds me of the battle Sakura had with Sasori it took them like forever to get down to the real Sasori body so why would Pein be any different. Just a thought?
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Itachi_ (Newbie)
// Nov 18, 2007 at 2:48 pm

Well… Pein got 6 bodies and im not sure if all the bodies r made for battle so i think he got a body for a special purpose, like he said before that he has to kill his own former teach, J-sama because he is on his counter (fightin) body so im not sure if he can use all 6 bodies to fight J-sama. so J-sama has to get rid of the summon and he is left wit Pein’s real body. lol thats wat i reckon
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DanC1110 (Genin)
// Nov 18, 2007 at 6:00 pm

I do think Jiraiya is going to win. He is one of the central characters in the manga, and still has several plot lines to resolve.
Pein might still survive, though. Akatsuki would splinter without him. And remember, just because a shinobi is defeated doesn’t mean he will die. Oorochimaru got beaten by The Fourth, Tsunade, and (kinda) Naruto before being killed.
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lackadaisical ninja (Rookie)
// Nov 18, 2007 at 6:19 pm

so if j-sama lives, he had better show naruto some new moves cause naruto is looking like he sucks.

i wonder when we will be going back to naruto, i had truly expected kishi to put us on hold with the j-sama pien fight but i was wrong.
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Nov 18, 2007 at 7:53 pm

The Naruto series doesn’t switch between stories until the fight is almost over, maybe for a few scenes but that’s it. A lot of people seem to think that Tsunade will come but I don’t see any good in that. I mean if Jiraiya loses, she really doesn’t stand a chance against Pein. She could try to heal or Jiraiya or escape but I doubt Pein will just stand by and watch.
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Shino Aburame ()
// Nov 19, 2007 at 1:36 am

I think that Tsunade, being a Sannin, has plenty of moves that we don’t know of… She could probably take on a couple of Pein’s bodies… I’m rooting for Jiraiya just like all of you, but I think that since the next episode is the last of the battle he will either lose or get his genjustu off and kill off the remaining body and think that he has won
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naruto echizen (Newbie)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 4:00 am

hey guyz can you help me out finding my avatar and on how to get some?…. plz.
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naruto y (Newbie)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 7:27 am

i think that jiraya wil escape and then go to tsunade and tel her the story
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 9:52 am

Did anyone notice that Ma and Pa are stuck to Jiriaya’s shoulder? I think he said soemthing about how if they hop of his shoulders then they will go back to where they came from. So pein just has to knock them off.
And of course Jiriaya’s not going to use the shinigami… I wonder if he even knows how to do it. I think it was something the 4th taught the 3rd and not handed down by the 3rd to jiriaya to Minato.
I think pein fills the role of villian like the characters from the sound during the Chunin exam. He isn’t the main villian, so he’s expendible. He isn’t the destined child. He’s kind of an awkward character that just kinda appeared as a red herrine for Minato because I think everyone thought (well I did anyway) Yahiko was going to be Minato. And Now Nagato makes everyone think he’s the destined child. It doesn’t seem to fit into the main story arc…
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 10:13 am

naruto ezchen… If you’re talking about your picture… You can search for you picture on google images and then find something you like. Click on it.. Then click on the top this so you come to a page where you only see a picture. THEN copy the link and put it in your link thing… I’m sure the Bob will tell you. Oh… and make sure it’s a small picture or else it will be huge and ridiculous.
ANYWAY… Has anyone thought about Kakuzu’s relationship with the 1st or possibly his relationship with Madara. He considered himself the treasurer of Akatsuki… which makes you think he was the founding member. I think the 1st beat Madara but Kakuzu was able escape with madara… maybe? What do you think their relationship was in terms of the Naruverse repeating itself and how things led up til now?
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 12:14 pm

Yeah Tsunade is a Sannin but I highly doubt that she’s stronger than Jiraiya. Jiraiya is definitely the strongest of the Sannin.
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Naruto Episodes (Newbie)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 12:25 pm

Great Chapter!!!
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 1:25 pm

Jiraiya was almost get killed by Tsunade. Just something to keep in mind.
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 2:50 pm

That was when they were little, and most likely Jiraiya was not fighting back. The Sannins mirror Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke.
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Itachi_ (Newbie)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 3:49 pm

“Jiraiya was almost get killed by Tsunade” lol that tim J-sama was caught sneekin into female bathroom so then Tsunade saw him and bashed him up. lol it doesnt mean she is stronger than J-sama coz J-sama didnt fight bak, lol i think he wouldve been findin a way to escape. its jst similar to Sukura and Naruto and how Naruto gettin punched by her but it doesnt mean Sukura is stronger than Naruto
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lackadaisical ninja (Rookie)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 3:52 pm

naw orochimaru was the strongest sannin.
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 4:00 pm

All of the teams in Naruto are all rather redundant. It’s always the came combination! One loud-mouth, one girl and an emo guy! What would happen if they mixed up people from the teams?
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 4:03 pm

I like the picture… and I agree that Orochimaru was the strongest. I wonder what his relationship with Madara was like. I believe that Orochimaru was inspired by Madara to do the soul transfer jutsu.
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 4:06 pm

If they mixed up the teams… then two out of the three teams would be quiet and there would be nothing going on… so then we’d focus all our attention on 3 loud mouths, which would get boring fast. The setup allows some shy people to be paired with outgoing ninja so then we can see more of their personalities.
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 4:18 pm

Well the contrast is the whole theme and the different personalities learning to work as a cohesive unit. It’d just be nice to have different character personalities in the teams…
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 4:40 pm

Haha, I never really thought of it like that. So the emo guys on each team are Sasuke, Neji, Shino and Shikamaru. Loud ones being Naruto, Lee, Kiba and Ino. And the quiet ones beings Sakura, Tenten, Hinata and Choji. I’d like to see a pair up of teams based on these types. I’d bet the loud team will be so dysfunctional that they won’t be able to complete any missions.

Love the avatar pic, lackadaisical ninja, Calvin and Hobbes rule! Do you link to where I can get a bigger version of it?
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 5:11 pm

Orochimaru might have been the strongest back then but that’s not necessarily the case now. Think about it, Orochimaru is afraid of Itachi and Itachi is intimidated (kind of) of Jiraiya. Look what happened with the Sannin is almost identical to what happened to team seven. Naruto and Jiraiya started out as jokes, Sasuke and Orochimaru started out as geniuses. We all know that Naruto will eventually surpass Sasuke.
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 5:23 pm

Ehh let’s not talk about who’s stronger between Jiraiya and Orochimaru anymore. We’ll never know I suppose as the outcomes of the battles in Naruto aren’t measured by how strong someone is.
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Nandou (Rookie)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 7:22 pm

Everybody knows Jiraya’s chi surpasses 5,000 and Orochimaru’s above 10,000.
The only difference is that Jiraiya knows how to use the Kaio Ken
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TotalRandomnessâ„¢ (Newbie)
// Nov 19, 2007 at 9:27 pm

hi this is my first time posting. i was just wondering about wut u said nafarious about the team set up, a loud mouth, a girl and an emo guy. i was rly thinking about shikamarus team. i dont rly think his team fits under the categorys as much. bobs idea was pretty good but nafarious dint say quiet…he said a girl, so choji duznt fit there. i kinda think that ino can fit under all 3 of these categorys seeing thats shes a loud mouth, a girl, and shes pretty hyper…
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Shino Aburame ()
// Nov 20, 2007 at 2:43 am

Chouji can be a loud mouth… That way it would fit. Notice though that the emo ones are always the better ones and the loud mouths usually try harder than the emo ones. “Yes I am emo, just leave me alone with my bugs… they can keep me company”…lol
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naruto y (Newbie)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 8:43 am

chouji is only a loud mouth when someone cals him a fatass
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Yondaime (Newbie)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 10:08 am

I don’t think J-sama will die. He and Kakashi seem to be the 2 smartest ninja in the Naruverse. They never seem to put themselves in situations that they can’t handle to an extent.

As far as the 3 man cells go, I guess you can say the the set up is equal. There are differences though. Shino and Shikamaru are smarter in battle than Sasuke and Neji. Shino and Shikamaru will basically treat each battle as Chess or Shogi. There will be many well calculated moves, and they will already have multiple plans in all situations. Neji has a near over-confident cockiness to him. Thanks to his Kekkei Genkai, he should. If he fights anyone thats not an intellectual opponent, he’ll crush them. Sasuke is cocky too. As with Neji, it comes with the inheritance of his Kekkei Genkai. I think it would be a very interesting battle if he and Neji faced off.

Loudmouths - Naruto, Ino, Kiba. I don’t see Lee or TenTen as loudmouth. Kiba is pretty much an animal… so he’s loud and wild. Ino is useless up until now, and is by far the weakest of all Kunoichi. We all know Naruto, so I won’t explain him..lol.

I think the last character is the one that doubted themselves, but turned out to be standouts. Ino fits into this category, as she now studies under Tsunade. Choji, Hinata, and Lee also fall under this category. They are the 3 most underrated characters in the storyline, but have shown that they can get the job done when needed.
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lackadaisical ninja (Rookie)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 10:25 am

hey bob heres the link of where i got my pic

http://www.flickr.com/photos/manicsmile/49482478/
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 11:01 am

I read something that was very interesting about the Uchiha Clan is not human but of a demonic orgin because of there tengu bloodline. Do anybody now more about it?
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Gohosku (Chunin Squad Leader)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 12:31 pm

u mean this scrubby?
http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=106576

seems pretty solid to me
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 5:25 pm

“he said a girl, so choji duznt fit there.”
Thanks for pointing that out, and since it’s your first post, I won’t go crazy on you for calling be a dude. ;D Just F.Y.I….
The whole tengu blood would most likely come from the rinnegan. After all, the sage of the six paths, or whatever, appears to be a furry (meaning he/she/it has animal features) and was the first user of the rinnegan. If the sage was a demon and mixed with a human bayakugan user, that would have been the start to the Sharingan, right?
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Siskin (A*#1)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 5:40 pm

I think that’s what I’m leaning towards. The theory as stated above seems to have a number of good points, but I think there are a number of details that are a little off. Especially the relationships and the relationship to the rinnengan.
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Lol (Newbie)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 10:12 pm

Anyone noticed dat Tobi and Obito use the same letters? The only difference is that Tobi used one less O
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Gohosku (Chunin Squad Leader)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 10:22 pm

i read somewhere that obito is how tobi is spelled backwards in japanese but i havent been able to confirm that
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Lol (Newbie)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 11:17 pm

I Don’t think Tobi is Madara When he says he will have Madara’s power i think he means the power that Madara had when he controlled the ninetales, there’s no reason why he couldn’t controll the lesser deomons
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Bob (Malevolent Dictator)
// Nov 20, 2007 at 11:34 pm

Thanks lackadaisical ninja, man that’s a mouthful, I’m gonna call you lacknin from now on
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john (Newbie)
// Nov 21, 2007 at 8:20 am

sorry to just join in but i think tobi was the dude that every one thought was dead when kakashi took his left.

just look it only shows the right eye and the rest is covered by mask, is his face covered because of what kakashi did to get his left eye?
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Nov 21, 2007 at 8:58 am

thxs Gohosku i read that and it fill in some of my whole in that line of thinking. So do u think that Sasuke and the purest to the tengu bloodline? Because that would kinda explain why everyone except Sasuke knows he’s going to be the strongest Sharingan user with Madara?
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Nov 21, 2007 at 9:02 am

Well John where the manga’s show a complete close up of Tobi he had both eyes. But that was a interesting point of view i never thought about it like that.
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ShikamaruIsTheMan (Rebel Shinobi Leader)
// Nov 21, 2007 at 2:36 pm

Scrubby: When did they say that Sasuke is going to be the strongest Sharingan user. I remember one time Sasuke saying that he was only average compared to other Uchihas but since he’s the only one left everyone thinks he’s a genius.

I think the idea mention’d before that the Sharingan is the product of a Rinnigan user and a Byakugan user’s getting busy is pretty good. But I am curious to see the extent of the Rinnigan’s abilities because if it is indeed more powerful than the Sharingan and the Byakugan it must be pretty badass.
I was thinking that the Byakugan gives you a major advantage in offensive Taijutsu and I guess defending against Genjutsu is some ways. And the Sharingan gives the user advantages in Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, and Genjutsu both offensively and defensively. If the Rinnigan is more powerful than them both I wonder just how badass it is and how it helps. We already know that it helps with “line-of-sight” for Taijutsu but that is really only defending against it. And being able to inhabit multiple bodies helps with all jutsus offensively. WHAT ELSE DOES IT DO????
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Nov 21, 2007 at 2:59 pm

I’m hoping to any form of God that the rinnegan doesn’t do too much more than it already has shown us. It’s a VERY “god-mod” kind of ability. It allows clones, a crazy amount of summons and use of all six elements. It may be a “godly” technique, but makes for a rather predictable fight. -_-
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Nameless (Chunin)
// Nov 21, 2007 at 4:52 pm

I’m wondering just how powerful Ma and Pa’s Genjustsu are. They’re pretty confident so I’m guessing it’s an extremely high level one.
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naruto echizen (Newbie)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 4:39 am

thanks i will gonna try it
siskin
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naruto echizen (Newbie)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 4:41 am

thanks siskin you’re the best
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naruto echizen (Newbie)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 4:47 am

hey guyz do you know who tobi is?…. try to surf over and get some answers.. i got some information and it says that it is obito … kakashi’s long lost friend and team mate who is being foretold to be dead….. i don’t know waht exactly that means but do you it has the possibility….. and about madara uchiha…. do you know guyz who he really is?…..
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J-sama (Primera Espada)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 6:53 am

A-Ha! I got it! Rember the discussion in an erlier blog about what jutsus Naruto had learned, and the jutsu that Jiraiya had forbidden him to use. What if that justsu is the Rasengan, but with the Kyuubi’s chakra? Naruto’s Rasengan has always been blue from his own chakra, but by using Kyuubi’s chakra it would probably black+red and extremely powerful!
That’s just a theory of course.
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Lovething (Rookie)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 7:07 am

I just had a thought: maybe Pein runs away, after Jiryaia kills some of his bodies. I hope this happens as Jiryaia’s my favourite character.
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scrubby (Team Shannaro!!)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 8:37 am

“Shikamaru” well it’s a known fact that many villians like Orch. said that Sasuke eyes are more kender that Itachi’s when he fought Sasuke in the forrest of death. And when Sasuke entered into Naruto mind and met kyuubi even Kyuubi said that his eyes was more sinster than his that only Madara the orignal Sharingan user was able to see him inside a person like he did, and gave Sasuke credit for being as young as he is with the abilities he posses and maybe he inherited a stronger tengu’s bloodline than Itachi and Madara that’s why i think Sasuke will the greatest Sharingan user. Now i might be wrong but i’ll take any open theory that can prove me wrong?
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Namikaze Uzamaki (Newbie)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 12:03 pm

I wonder if Naruto’s Kyubi chakra would be inherited by his children. Will it become a Kekkai Genkai (Advanced Bloodline, Bloodline Limit) or would it die with him. I would love to see Kyubi chakra mixed with Byakugan (Byakubi). what do you think Bob?
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Namikaze Uzamaki (Newbie)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 12:32 pm

Of course thats if Naruto and Hinata would get busy!!!
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E.R.Nefarious (Sexy Sparkle Dust Artist)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 12:50 pm

What else could there be? Sakryuubi? Kyuubino? They’re just not as catchy. But I dunno’ if the kyuubi’s chakara has affected Naruto at a genetic level. I think it’s spirit and chakara are stuck in Naruto, for lack of a better description.
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lackadaisical ninja (Rookie)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 3:05 pm

if that IS the “blood line” that naruto has and is passed to mini narutos, its not as cool as the rest of the blood lines out there. i mean yes they will have a vast amount of chackra but compared to other blood lines it just doesnt seem as cool.

i still say naruto has something that will get him up to par with these new bad guys. i mean if by chance naruto defeats pien, he wont be as fortunate with TOM cause we have seen that naruto sucks when it comes to fighting the sharingan. he has lost all his fights with sharingan users so something needs to happen in narutos favor…
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lackadaisical ninja (Rookie)
// Nov 22, 2007 at 3:05 pm

oh and happy gobble gobble day ^_^

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