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Naruto Manga chapter 373 – The Student-and-Teacher Era

5 October 2007 255 Comments

Post Author: Bob

Another awesome chapter loaded with revelations about Nagato’s eyes and even the history of ninjutsu itself. Continuing where last chapter left off, Jiraiya recognizes Nagato’s bloodline limit eye ability as the Rinnegan. Apparently Rinnegan translates as “metempsychosis eyes” and I think we all know what “metempsychosis” means, right? No? Well, here read up. If you’re too lazy, the quick answer is: “metempsychosis” refers to soul transmigration or reincarnation. That sounds pretty much in-line with Pein’s body switching abilities right? So it’s not so surprising when it was revealed that Pein is Nagato.

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Jiraiya decides to train the kids in ninjutsu; maybe it’s because he wanted to teach the kids to protect themselves or maybe he wanted to lead Nagato down the right track knowing he would become powerful someday. Jiraiya ends up staying three years to train them. All of this apparently happened between the last frame of page 10 and the first page of page 11, how’s that for a time skip? What I don’t get is how Jiraiya could take three years off to be with the children. Wasn’t he on a mission with Tsunade and Orochimaru? Isn’t there a huge ninja war going on? Well whatever. The three kids become proficient enough to defeat Jiriaya’s shadow clone. Yahiko learns Water element jutsu, Konan uses paper (what element or element combo is that anyways?), and Nagato learns Wind jutsu making him a good partner for Konan’s paper techniques. Satisfied with their progress, Jiraiya ditches the kids and tells them to defend for themselves; but before he leaves he tells Konan to come find him when she’s 18. Always looking out to the future, eh Jiraya. Well, the current Konan is probably 18 or older, but she attacks him on sight so I guess Jiraiya didn’t leave that good of an impression on her, lol. At the end of the chapter, Pein (Nagato) arrives and seems to be a little bitter about Jiraiya abandoning them all those years ago, though he won‘t comment on what happened in those years.

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This chapter also shines some light on the history of the Rinnegan, and in doing so, also reveals a little bit about the origin of ninjutsu itself. According to Jiraiya, the Rinnegan is considered to be the most revered and powerful of the three great eye techniques. Although the other two eye techniques aren’t mentioned, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that Jiraiya is referring to the Byakugan and the Sharingan. If you think about it, it’s no wonder Konoha was such a powerful military force – they were home to clans that possessed two of the greatest eye techniques in the world. The Rinnegan were called a tool of god that could either bring salvation to the world or be a weapon to bring destruction to everything. With such a powerful bloodline limit ability at his disposal, it’s no wonder Pein became a “god” to the people of Amegakure. But it’s hard to believe that Pein could have beaten Hanzou with just his body switching ability alone. No, we haven’t seen the true power of the Rinnegan yet, and I’m afraid that it’s probably something very sinister, something even Jiraiya won’t be able to handle.

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The Rinnegan has quite an interesting history. They were said to have been possessed by the Sage of the Six Paths, the founder of the ninja world and who pretty much invented ninjutsu. You could say he was the granddaddy of all ninja. Now, only a silhouette of the Sage is shown, but you can make out some distinctive features other than his eyes. The necklace he wears is made from six magatama (ie. “the Six Paths”). Magatama are a type of symbolic jewellery originating from Japan. They can symbolize different things, but in this case I think their link to gods and deities is most appropriate. You probably noticed already, but the tomoes of the Sharingan are based on the magatama shape. Now this may be a stretch, but a set of fully mature Sharingans contains six tomes in total (three each eye) – could there be a link between the Sharingan and the six magatama? Is it possible that the Rinnegan bloodline branched off into the Byakugan and Sharingan? The other thing to notice are those two protrusions on the Sage’s head. Either this guy’s got some crazy hair style or those things are animal ears. Remembering back to chapter 354 (remember Granny Cat?), we know that anthropomorphic beings do exist in the Naruto universe. Could this Sage guy be a mix between man and beast (he’s a Furry! lmao)? And when I think about the last idea, the tailed beasts keep popping into my head – is there a link between the Sage and the Bijuu??

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Phew, I think I ranted more than I wanted again. I hope I didn’t overload anybody with some of these crazy theories o’mine. Some questions which might make good discussion topics are:

If the Rinnegan is supposedly more powerful than the Sharingan, why is Pein taking orders from Tobi/Madara?

Now that we know Nagato is Pein, what happened to Yahiko?

What do you think the “Six Paths” in the Sage’s name are referring to?

255 Comments »

  • cursed seal chidori said:

    wow i cant believe we got this far now!!! ITS TUNIN OUT TO BE THA BEST!!!!!

  • cursed seal chidori said:

    BOOYA IM FIRST!

  • Tel said:

    hey man, i check your site pretty much all the time, just thought i’d let you know what a great job you’re doing, the manga is so amazing at the moment don’t you think.

  • J-sama said:

    The six elements may be refering to the 5 elements and the spiritual world (the reincarnation of the soul).

  • J-sama said:

    The six paths may be refering to the 5 elements and the spiritual world (the reincarnation of the soul).

  • J-sama said:

    sry about that the first one was a bug

  • J-sama said:

    “If the Rinnegan is supposedly more powerful than the Sharingan, why is Pein taking orders from Tobi/Madara?” It wasn’t exactly like he was taking orders. Maybe Tobi/Madara was just reminding him.

  • J-sama said:

    Or maybe Pain used his Rinnegan to revive Madara (or something like that) in return for Madara’s great power and now Madara thinks he’s Pain’s boss.

  • J-sama said:

    “is there a link between the Sage and the Bijuu??” “Is it possible that the Rinnegan bloodline branched off into the Byakugan and Sharingan?” Let’s not forget that they did say the founder of the Uchiha clan was a demon (perhaps the Sage himself
    )

  • somersault clouds said:

    I think the six paths could be the six elemental attacks in the series namely…Fire, Wind, Water, Earth, Lightning and Wood…:) …or are there other elemental attacks? :)

  • J-sama said:

    yes that’s exactly what I ment too.

  • Rassengan+Wind said:

    i think that there could be more elemental attacks that only the Fuuma clan possesses

  • Sakamura Mikado said:

    Good stuff…I think I am to tired to say anything…

  • Sakamura Mikado said:

    Also it does look like ears but I think it just might be a forehead protecter with horns on the front…

  • Sakamura Mikado said:

    But one thing I have to say is these time lines make no sinse. I mean everybody seems like they are older than they really are but in truth younger. After this does he train Minato?!?!?!! After that when does Minato become the Forth and at what age does he have Naruto?!?!?!! Was it in his teens? Or late twenties…maybe early 20’s but still wouldn’t these guys be older or younger or same age as him if they are they have to be in there 30’s! And if they are than Jugo can’t be that kid or he would be at least in his mid 20’s but he’s only 18!!!!! So when is all this happening…that’s the only fault I find in this series…but maybe I am just wrong…

  • ANBU Hatake Kashe said:

    This is an excellent site. I think Jiraiya is a little in over his head, but I don’t think he’ll be killed off. Maybe the Rinnegan is powerful, but its hard to believe the Byakugan or Sharingan can’t detect its weaknesses. Where are the other Rinnegan users?

  • J-sama said:

    Perhaps they’re all dead and Pein is the last whit that power

  • Nine said:

    WOW we have gone so far! I hope Jiraiya dosent get killed though!

  • yourshoe said:

    perhaps rinnengan only happens to one person and its not even a bloodline and its only bestowed on one special person(also wood is a combination of 2 elements)

  • J-sama said:

    I doubt that. More likely it’s a power that’s passed from grandfather to grandson or even a bigger difference in generations and that’s why no one else has it.

  • Bob said:

    “Also it does look like ears but I think it just might be a forehead protecter with horns on the front…”
    Yup, that’s definitely another possibility, demons are a reoccurring theme in this series.

    “Let’s not forget that they did say the founder of the Uchiha clan was a demon”
    I remember that too (you remember what chapter/episode?) but since Madara was the founder of the Uchiha clan, I thought they were just calling him a devil because of his evil intentions.

  • J-sama said:

    Actually it said Madara’s father was a demon and his mother- a human. Maybe the sage is Mdara’s father???

  • Bob said:

    “I think the six paths could be the six elemental attacks in the series namely…Fire, Wind, Water, Earth, Lightning and Wood…:) …or are there other elemental attacks?”

    yourshoe is right, wood is a combo of earth and water, similar to how Haku’s ice element was wind and water combo. If we’re talking about six chakra elements, then I think the sixth element is “Void”. Rather, it’s the lack of any elements or in other words: Nothing. It may also have to do with all these dimensional rift/teleportation jutsus we hear about. Also, Pein’s ring has the symbol for “nothing” or “zero” written on it – connection?

  • Bob said:

    “hey man, i check your site pretty much all the time, just thought i’d let you know what a great job you’re doing”

    Thanks dude, at least I’m doing something right. Did you know this site is nearly one year old?

  • J-sama said:

    Really? When’s it’s birthday?

  • Bob said:

    officially, this site was founded on November 28, 2006

  • J-sama said:

    Great! Save me a slice of cake :)

  • Nameless said:

    Jiraiya said that the Rinnegan was the most powerful of the three eye techniques, but he said that probably not knowing about the Mangekyou Sharingan. Remember when Itachi used the Amaterasu and he didn’t know what the hell that black flame was? His image of the sharingan is probably the three tomoe sharingan. Also, remember what Tobi said about “the true power of the Sharingan.” Pein probably needs this power for his ultimate ideal. Either that or this true power even surpasses the Rinnegan.
    Anyone notice that Nagato looks almost identical to Konan when Jiraiya left them? It’s possible that the two are siblings.

  • J-sama said:

    Hmmm… Does anyone
    think Konan’s paper powers are kekke genkai?

  • zepwolfx said:

    might be.

  • subrosanaruto said:

    I think this eye technique is kind of a cop out by the artists I mean the bykugan and sharigan are so cool and this one kind of sucks.

    I’m calling it again there is a connection between the sharigan and the heaven seal on sasuke’s back/neck

  • zep hyuga said:

    i can’t wait to what iTACHI NEEDS TO TALK TO Sasuke about.

  • zep hyuga said:

    I like the whole Itachi being good idea. That will be an interesting twist.

  • zep hyuga said:

    FUCK YEAH!! Finally my avatar worked.

  • zep hyuga said:

    well, see you guys later.

  • Bobbi said:

    Lets remember that the sharingan its a mutation of the byakugan, so madara’s father or mother, should be a branch member of the byakugan clan.

    Now, why 2 of the GReat eye techniques are from the leaf??

    And if 2 of the eye techniques are part of the leaf, then why jiraiya got so surprised when he saw the third?? He lives in a place were there are 2 eye thecniques.

    Another thing, theres a girl in konoha she was the teacher of shyno, kiiba and hinata.
    Her eyes were kind of like pain’s

  • Bob said:

    Kurenai?
    http://www.itudia.com/naruto/images/yuhi_kurenai_01.jpg
    Nah, her pupils are red; they look a bit weird in the manga since there is no color but I don’t think there’s any link to Rinnegan.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Jiraiya was probably shocked by simply finding the third eye technique, since it seems to be so rare. And you’re right, Kurenai does have similar eyes, but they don’t seem to do much! ^_^;;
    Perhaps the sharangan is the result of mixing the byakugan and the rinnegan! The byakugan has more taijutsu affiliated abilities, whereas the rinnegan has more of a jutsu-based affect, so mixing them together could make an eye ability as versatile as the sharingan!

  • J-sama said:

    I’d still go with Bob’s idea that the sharringan and byakugan decended from the rinnegan. After all if the Sage was the one who created ninjutsu that means sharringan and byakugan didn’t exist before that because it takes a jutsu to activate them.

  • anon. said:

    yahiko obviously went to ruronie kenshin :P
    jkjk
    good job
    this is awesome

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Excelent point, I totally forgot! XD
    But what does it take to activate the Rinnegan’s ability? O_o;; Emotional stress? Since we haven’t seen Pein in serious action, it makes one wonder. And the only time we’ve seen the resultis of the rinnegan is in the flashback and that didn’t tell us a whole lot! So how do you think you activate the thing without a seal? Does he just tell himself he hates the world and things just explode around him?

  • J-sama said:

    I guess we’ll find out soon

  • Bob said:

    You need to be totally Emo to activate the Rinnegan. Note Nagato’s black hair and bangs. I bet he has a Slipknot t-shirt under his robes!

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Or a My Chemical Romance t-shirt! XD Omigawd… It explains all of the peircings!

  • scrubby said:

    I think that after Jiraiya left Pein and the others they went to Hanzou and was trained by him until he couldn’t teach them anymore and he was killed just as when Sasuke killed Orochimaru. Madara maybe helping Pein to become stronger by sealing the power of a buuji inside him, since Madara do have the ability to summon buuji it would make sense he can seal them inside a person.

  • Derek said:

    It seems to me that yahiko is the guy with sasuke who has blonde hair and the curse mark that is dangerous. He looks a lot like him to me

  • Nameless said:

    The sage of six path can be both the founder of the ninja world and the father of Uchiha Madara. Even though the time frame is completely different. But If the Sage was a demon his life span would be a lot longer than a normal human. He could have founded the ninja world and then later eloped with a woman from the Hyuuga clan.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Evil demon sage: Human Metamorphosis of the Kyuubi?
    Makes it possible for Madara to personally know the Kyuubi, and why the Kyuubi has all nine tails!

  • JB said:

    So does this mean Pein and the Uchiha and Hyuga clan are somehow relatives.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    It’s possible, since their abillities are so similar, they could have just branched out from one or the other.

  • yourshoe said:

    man i just saw the craziest thing while on youtube when typing uchiha madara saying that his dad was some weird demon guy named sojobo (konoha tengu) who had a long nose and white hair with a pair of black wings on his back. if u wanna read the whole crazy thing heres the website u dont have to watch the video but u can read on the side. http://youtube.com/watch?v=QcdmJZd3eww

  • yourshoe said:

    i didnt rly beleive it when i first saw it but after reading 373 anything is possible

  • zep said:

    yeah, i read that to in a forum a while back. The guy who wrote it atmited that it was just theory of his. So it might not be true. He did have some interesting evidence to back up his thoughts though.

  • jeff said:

    hey!!can i join??im also a naruto fan..^_^

  • Rhalahina said:

    Well … it’s pretty cool :P
    Masashi Kishimoto-sensei got a wonderful emagination. He’s my main-idol and favorite mangaka.

    PS: He is all my inspiration for my manga: Jewel Hunters.

  • scrubby said:

    Do anyone besides me think that Sasuke will be sealed with the Eight tail snake demon call Oroch by Madara/Tobi to try to killed Naruto and the 9 tail fox?

  • yourshoe said:

    not rly i mean i dun think they care much about sasuke or naruto they just want all the bijuu. although they do know that sasuke and naruto are getting very strong and are starting to interfere but i think theyll just try to kill them not have sasuke and naruto kill eachother

  • yourshoe said:

    hmm i dun know if this was brought up but i think nagato and konan are brother and sister becauz they have same hair and nagato said that yahiko saved konan and him so it probably meant both were together

  • J-sama said:

    I noticed that thay look alike but they act more like lovers not siblings

  • Nine said:

    I know this has nothing to do with this but did anyone see the the new trailer for Naruto Movie 4! Its a part from the movie! I thought the scream at the end of the trailers were sakura but it was the gil with the blond hair who screames.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa14bmTrFsk&mode=related&search=

  • zep said:

    crap, can’t access youtube from work. i’ll just check it out later.

  • J-sama said:

    Lol! Awsome!!

  • zep said:

    i know this is out of topic, but just thinking about LadyP’s pairing blog. and i’m wondering, how will that work. i mean if Japan is a “mashista country”, as we say in my culture, will the girls have to change their last names, according to the clans they marry/join to? i.e. NejiTen; will tenten be named, Tenten Hyuga, and dose she have to live with the hyuga? Just wondering, and can’t keep this thought out of my head. Can’t wait for LadyP’s blog, have so many questions.

  • nine tailed hokage said:

    naruto shippuuden coming in america march 2008.and halo 3 is asome

  • manga's rock said:

    Yeah this is all great and stuff i think the nine paths are fire,wind,water,earth,lightning, and i think the 6th is just like pure chakra cuz ice is water and wood is a combo of 2 elements and like the 1st hokagae and some other guy i cant remember can use it so yeah KITTY EARS just saying >.> and umm yeah i think he is the father of the byakugan wich turns into the sharingan because of some blood line thing look for it on youtube.com umm the dark secret of the sharingan there r 3 parts showing a good theory on the sharingan and stuff makes good sense and Madara tryed to seal his or the sharingans father by useing all 3 sharingan forms and the 3 most power full uchiha blood line jutsus you’ll find it on the thing on youtube and seals him in like a statue he cheats and uses kyuubi’s chakra but yeah look it up great page =D

  • manga's rock said:

    umm hold on ppl i dont think its the dark secret of the sharingan but yeah its something about the secert of the uchiha clan or something dark secret well u try to find it =P k just wanted to warn u =P

  • manga's rock said:

    Hyuuga clan is one of the oldest clans in Konoha. They have been there ever since the establishment of the hidden village. Many years ago there was a girl from Hyuuga clan who fell in love with an outsider. She decided to marry herself to the young man despite the strong protests from her own clan. But this man was no ordinary human. In fact, this man was not a human at all. His name was Sojobo. He was the King of Tengu.
    There are two types of tengus, Karasu tengu (a crow-like creature with beak and wings) and Konoha tengu (also known as Yamabushi tengu). Sojobo was a Konoha tengu. He had long nose and white hair with a pair of black wings on his back. As the King of Tengu, Sojobo possessed some very mystical powers. He carried a fan made of Fatsia leaf that could create a storm (therefore people sometimes call this type of leaf as Tengu no Uchiwa or Tengu’s fan). He could teleport himself or any other things from one place to another. He could also communicate with people telepathically or even invade their minds and drive them to madness. Besides, Sojobo was also known for his shapeshifting ability. He sometimes transformed himself into human to interact with people.
    Anyway, this girl from Hyuuga was in love with Sojobo taking the human form without knowing his true identity. She married him shortly after they met each other. A year or two later, she was pregnant and gave birth to their first son. Sojobo named this son Uchiha, Uchiha Madara, after Uchiwa which means fan. And of course as we know, fan also later became the symbol of this new clan.
    Everything was good. Uchiha Madara soon grew up to become a very powerful shinobi. He not only inherited the Kekkei Genkai from his mother but with the Tengu blood inside him the Byakugan had evolved into an even more dreadful form—the Sharingan! This new bloodline had 2 levels: Normal Sharingan and Mangekyou Sharingan. Like his tengu father, Madara possessed some incredible magical powers. He was able to use telepathy to invade people’s minds, or even teleport himself across a short distance. When he turned on the Mangekyou Sharingan (he had the normal Sharingan on 24/7 just like his Hyuuga kin), the eyes would further intensify his powers and bring him even closer to a tengu form. He had developed 3 jutsus under this state, namely Tsukiyomi (to control people’s minds and drive them insane), Amaterasu (to teleport objects into another dimension).But good things do not last long. As Madara was about to reach his adulthood, Sojobo began to reveal his true intention. Sojobo didn’t marry the girl from Hyuuga out of love. He was only looking for a perfect body, a container (probably to achieve greater powers), and he figured the best way was to create one with his own blood. He was planning on taking over Madara’s body once he reached his adulthood. It didn’t take Uchiha Madara long to find out this appalling truth. He felt a mixture of shock and anger. He felt he was being used but he wasn’t going to give in such easily, at least not without a fight. But Madara knew only too well that no matter how strong he was he stood no chance against the King of Tengu. Out of desperation he sought for the legendary Bijuu—Kyuubi (the God of Fire).Kyuubi was very impressed by Madara’s abilities. A secret pact was made and Kyuubi agreed to lend his power and chakra to Uchiha Madara. Soon Madara mastered the katon and he could even cast a dark fire that would burn for 7 days and 7 nights after performing the Amaterasu. But even with these newly gained powers and a huge supply of chakra from the Kyuubi, Uchiha Madara was only able to beat his demon father by a hair’s breadth. He couldn’t finish him once and for all but only managed to seal him up. However, the seal he used was a very special one. To break the seal it requires the Kyuubi’s chakra and also not one but 3 Uchiha members who can wield the Mangekyou Sharingan. Each MS user has to cast a different MS jutsu at the same time and when the 3 jutsus–Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo–combine, the great evil will be unleashed. It’s a tall order and Madara thought it would be enough to seal up the demon for eternity.
    when the first hokage fouund out wut happend he was mad at madara since thy were best friends he taught madara wanted the kyuubi power for greed so he faught wit madara in the VALLEY OF THE END.(where naruto and sasuke faught).

    story line:
    20 years ago . a new uhciha was born. a very powerfull one his name was itachi uchiha. he knew the truth and he wanted to free the tengo king and sacrifies his body to him. so he knew his clan wont accept this and he needs 3 MS users so he found another UCHIHA MADARA. . he needed another one. so he creted the path of avenger for his lil brother. wen sasuke gets it . his plan would have worked parfectly.

    CLUE:
    Tengus are said to be crow-spirits. When Itachi used a genjutsu on Naruto, Naruto saw him turned into a flock of crows
    CLUE:
    [neji always talk about how he fails to see the last srow] Neji failing to see the last crow was a hint on how that Hyuuga woman failed to see through the King of Tengu, thus allowing the possibility of the Uchiha clan being born?

    CLUE
    Karasu tengu can make a sound like thunder clapping when they fly overhead.
    Maybe this why whenever tobi comes out it starts raining and thuders come out
    even itachi cried on how madara power was

    CLUE:
    names in naruto means something to the person . like uzumaki means spiral
    and thats naruto symbol.. kakashi means scarescrow.. whos is the scarscrow kakashi itachi or sasuke u decide

  • Bob said:

    “Can’t wait for LadyP’s blog, have so many questions.”

    Where has that crazy fangirl gone? Sounded like she was buried in work and not getting enough sleep :(

  • yourshoe said:

    ya its like the dark secret of the uchiha clan. i have the site addres earlier in the blog.

  • somersault clouds said:

    wow…so many messages, so little time…:P Mr/s. yourshoe & J-sama, I think konan and pein are siblings…but…if they are, why doesn’t konan have the rinnengan? :)

    Mr..o sorry…Ms. Nefarious :P ,i also think rinnengan is a mix of byakugan & sharingan….maybe sharingan & byakugan are the originals and rinnengan was a result of “intermarriage”…thus i would think rinnengan got the best of both worlds…maybe…

    If I’m not mistaken, the fox is a famous legendary animal in Japanese mythology….and it is part of the legend that the fox spirit has nine tails….it was also portrayed in a chinese fantasy movie,I forgot the title,hehehe,but it stars Jimmy Lin & Jacky Cheung who played the nine-tailed fox spirit…and interestingly,if the tails are cut-off,his “s****l” prowess decreases..haha. :) just a thought. :)

    “yourshoe is right, wood is a combo of earth and water, similar to how Haku’s ice element was wind and water combo. If we’re talking about six chakra elements, then I think the sixth element is “Void”.” – I see, ok. :)

    “hey man, i check your site pretty much all the time, just thought i’d let you know what a great job you’re doing” – I second the motion. Keep it up! :)

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Using a school computer to comment right now. XD

    Okay. Note to Manga’s Rock: You have an insanley detailed theory and It’d be awesome if you could get into more detail outside the comments box. If you wish, you could type up the whole thing, including other theories you might have and you could probably have it posted on the site! ^-^ Bob would probably be willing to help you out with it!

    Also, we should do something for the site’s birthday! 8D Some sort of celebration!

  • J-sama said:

    Yes! I already suggested cake.

  • manga's rock said:

    LOL the site has a B-Day >..

  • manga's rock said:

    yeah i cant see what i wrote but if its there than read it if it’s not than tell me and i guess ill write it agian D=

  • zep said:

    actually that thery was posted in a narutofan forum, so unless that’s the same person, that theory belongs to someone else. If you don’t beleive me Google Madara Uchiha, and in should be one that says something about the dark secret of the uchiha.

  • manga's rock said:

    hmmm oh yeah i didnt say it was mine only the one about the eyes was mine so yeah =D

  • manga's rock said:

    go on youtube and look for the dark history of uchiha madara thats it that tells you the same as the dark secret but better it has 3 parts its not mine jusy saying so i wount have some sorta conflict with zep =P

  • pimped shoe said:

    (jus trying another name) i could barely watch the madara thing tho, i can tell it to ppl but i cant stand it. so long and the voice dude was some wierd dude, also the theorys were ok but so strange at the same time with some tengu guy and sojobo and aaaaaah omg…. to much information for my brain

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    We ARE kinda’ dumping a ton of info in the comments box and following everything at once IS kinda’ tough to follow. The best solution is to have people request to be blog contributors, since Bob needs some.
    Also, how could we celebrate the sites B-day with a cake? People here are from totally different corners of the world! @_@ Unless somebody could be the one to bake a cake and take a picture, but that’s seems kinda’ weird…

  • zep said:

    No conflict Manga Rock. just liike giving credit were credit is do. My bad if i came off offencive.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    ^__^ No worries, Zep. You’re about as offensive as a Monk!

  • zep said:

    THAT’S NOT FUCKING TRUE, AND I CAN FUCKING PROVE IT. GODDAMN, I’M NOT DOING MY FUCKING JOB THEN!!! lol.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    XD Fine. You’re about as offensive as a monk that swears like a trucker! ;D But you ARE from Cali. THAT’S you’re true transgression! Lol.

  • manga's rock said:

    LOl iight kwel zep if anyone saw the dark history of uchiha madara yeah tht kid is kinda anoying and it takes awhile to understand >.

  • manga's rock said:

    it keeps not showing up D= WTF but if u can see it then kwel =D

  • manga's rock said:

    if you cant see it then man leave your aim and ill IM u my theory if u want =P O_o

  • Tel said:

    Has anyone posted any news on the new naruto shippuden accel 2 game?

  • pimped shoe said:

    i wonder if that one annoying guy talking in the vid was like a spy and he like checked out kishi’s files and found all that info but there are some problems with that. 1) how would he get to those files. 2)why whould kishi come up with some crazy theory about tengu and sojobo and karasu(karasu is from another manga anyway. and ya thats it, oh and ive never heard of that game tel

  • manga's rock said:

    WHY DOESNT MY OTHER THINGS SHOW >:3 lol does anyone know when the new manga comes out?

  • zep hyuga said:

    “Has anyone posted any news on the new naruto shippuden accel 2 game?”

    I don’t think anybody has. Do you know if they are going to bring any of the naruto shippuden accel game to the states?

  • Bob said:

    I think it’ll probably be based on how well Shippuuden is received over here. If anyone’s got some good info, by all means send it to me and we can make it an official post.

  • Bob said:

    “i wonder if that one annoying guy talking in the vid was like a spy and he like checked out kishi’s files and found all that info”

    Is the guy speaking Japanese or something? Got a link to the vid?

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Is that our queue to people to fish for spoilers and/or pre-release ratings and comments?

  • Bob said:

    “The best solution is to have people request to be blog contributors, since Bob needs some.”

    YES, BOB NEEDS SLAVES… I mean contributors for his nice little blog :)

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    DON’T LISTEN TO HIM!!! HE BEATS US!

  • Bob said:

    SILENCE SLAVE, Back to the PIT!!! … I mean lounge room where we have complimentary biscuits and tea.

  • zep hyuga said:

    Not any more I ate dose so called bisciuts, and the tea tasted like piss.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Hurray! Brittish consumables! In a PIT!!!

    Seriously… where is LadyP? She needs to contribute too! ;_; It’s so lonely in the pit….

  • Bob said:

    “Not any more I ate dose so called bisciuts, and the tea tasted like piss.”

    Shut-Up!! I paid good money for that piss flavored tea!!!!

    “where is LadyP?”

    Good question.
    Has she forsaken us?

  • zep hyuga said:

    It’s not that bad, we have darkness to have fun with.

    Who touched my butt just now.

  • Bob said:

    At you have somebody to touch your butt…
    It’s lonely inside my igloo…

    Hey, that could make good song lyrics.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    I don’t think Lady’s forsaken us, it’s just that she’s better about getting her homework done before she’s gets online! XD What a funny idea!

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Poor Bob, with nobody to share an igloo… Poor Zep for not knowing who the hell just tried to butt-grapple a cheek.

  • Bob said:

    alrighty folks, I need to say bye bye for awhile. May be back later t’nite if have time.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Later Bob-o!
    Be sure to patch up your igloo! ^-^

  • zep hyuga said:

    i’ll try to be back later too. Have to go to class.

  • LadyP said:

    Though none of you are around to read this when I post this:
    ROFL, I’m so sorry dear comrades of the Shannaro Four. I haven’t forsaken you all (*hands out nice, warm chocolate chip cookies*). I’m just in that dark corner over there juggling hw in one hand and the time in the other. The blog well on it’s way though not close to being done.
    Bob…..igloo? What the?? I love your new avatar, zep. I’m happy a lot more people are using avatars. I’m so sorry, Bob, I sent you so many artists XD Yay, you’re doing Kakashi Gaiden! *huggles*
    And I have been checking in everynight but I can’t really participate in the convos lest I want to pull and all nighter. Till next time I can spend time in the Pit with my dear fellow Narutards.

  • LadyP said:

    And I’m so sorry you’re left to handle the estrogen side on your own for now, Nef. ;_; I’m coming soon!

  • zepwolfx said:

    LadyP long time no hear of. The cookies were a little under cooked, but it’s understandable with you being busy and all. Next time Macadania Nut if you can.

  • Da shoe said:

    a bob the link to the site is here http://youtube.com/watch?v=QcdmJZd3eww . oh wait… those were chocolate? i thought they were peanut butter?

  • Da shoe said:

    wait nvrmind the link is this one: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iQptiNSsVjw&mode=related&search=

  • Bob said:

    The Lady returns!
    Too tired to type in much, but welcome back :) Some much needed estrogen in this testosterone muck…. you know that just sounds weird :-/
    I can’t see all of us doing those late night group discussions anymore either with all our different schedules and all. Just pop in once in a while so we know you’re alive, lol.

    @Da shoe
    Eck, that guy’s voice was muffled throughout the vid and I dont know why but listening to him kinda annoyed me. Who ever made the initial “dark secret of Uchiha clan” theory must have had very good knowledge of Japanese mythology and folklore. Kudos.

  • Bob said:

    “those were chocolate? i thought they were peanut butter?”

    Careful, some people may be allergic. I put up a disclaimer in the banner just to be safe :P

  • Sakamura Mikado said:

    Yeah I am back to…just been to lazy and busy lol. Hmmm…I need to do more research so I can spice things up next time I leave a comment.

  • J-sama said:

    “The Dark History of MADARA UCHIHA” rewally is an interesting theory and with the evidence it’s backed up with I’m almost certain it’s true.
    Can I have some cookies too?

  • J-sama said:

    This theory could also explain why Pein was taking orders from Tobi: He could be in on the plan to contrrol the Tengu.

  • LadyP said:

    Lol, To satisfy everyone’s tastes: here’s an extremely large platter of chocolate chip, macadania nut, peanut butter, oatmeal and raisin, and brownies. Take whatever one you want. :D And these, zep, are not undercooked >_> (commenting on my cooking skills…) XD j/k
    Once my school work clears up, I might be able to pop in nightly like before. Tootles.

  • somersault clouds said:

    hello guys! I missed the Rock’s post…but read it already. It is a great theory …but why would Itachi want to release his greatgrand daddy? :) nway, I just thought of checking a japanese folktale book that my sister gave me…it says that…”Tengu is a class of goblins or gnomes that haunt mountains and woodlands, and they play many pranks…they are winged and beaked…” this is most interesting…it says..”Tengus mysteriously hides human beings, and when finally they return to their homes, they do so in a demented condition…this strange occurence is known as Tengu Kakushi..or hidden by a Tengu.” :) I just wanted to share the info. This is why I like Kishi’s ideas, they all have japanese mythological and cultural basis. :)

    Can I have a brownie Ms. LadyP? :)

    thanks.

  • zepwolfx said:

    wharrup people.

  • Da shoe said:

    hey maybe it wasnt the tengu but the six paths dude or tengu is his sin or greatgrandson(wichever)

  • Da shoe said:

    son*

  • Uchiha Masachi said:

    Hey Guys! I’m Back!

    CHECK THIS SITE! it’s another theory for the uchiha clan!

    –>http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=106576

    i think all theories are getting closer and closer to the manga!!!

    but what about naruto’s family history??? this is what i’m searching… theories about naruto! i’m a naruto fan!!! not uchiha….. dammit!!!

    I’m sick and tired reading uchiha theories!!! lol

  • manga's rock said:

    la la la LAAAAAAAAAA sorry got bored ummm has anyone eles figured out that the 4th hokages element is water O_o just pointing it out =P make some of you guys and lady think =)

  • Da shoe said:

    how u figure that out? I mean ive read kakashi gaiden, read about the 4th and stuff but i dont remeber it ever saying his element was water

  • mr. doctor profesor shoe said:

    hey u know i felt like saying something ppl say that obito cant be tobi cauz obito is dead but then again madara should be too u know hes like 100 years old

  • manga's rock said:

    ummm well not only in someones blog did it say that the 4th tryed to mix his own element into the rasen shuriken to creater the suiton rasen shuriken but the technique naruto uses to creat a vortex is by his wind chakra but on the skill it says 2 ppl can use it naruto and yondaime (4th hokage) and it says that naruto used wind and Minato used water elements to creat the vortex he also used the spining motion to help create the rasengan =D think about it it does make sense now tht i think about it =D

  • manga's rock said:

    is anyone here in HS it sucks Dx

  • zep hyuga said:

    I’m in College. I don’t remember the whole Minato having a water element chakra. But come to think of it his name is Minato Namikaze, which means: “Minato” = “Port”, Namikaze – “Nami”=”Wave” “Kaze”=”Wind”.

  • mr. doctor profesor shoe said:

    oooh cool makes sense to me XD. Im not so bright but by any chance does HS mean home school?

  • manga's rock said:

    LOL no HS means high school >.:3

  • manga's rock said:

    Gufuu Suika no Jutsu look for that

  • manga's rock said:

    its like the 2nd at the bottom and it will show u all the ninjutsus used and who uses them

  • mr. doctor profesor shoe said:

    As i said i aint very bright i mean maybe i can come up with theorys but othernthan that im not what ud call a mr doctor professor shoe XD

  • mr. doctor profesor shoe said:

    but what does that jutsu have to do with minato?

  • Michael said:

    I dont understand why everyone refers to TOBI as Madara….If you use proper grammar you would understand that in the chapter he says “the power of Uchiha Madara”….not ” The power of me, Uchiha Madara”. Nowhere does that refer to him being Madara. He just uses the line “The power of Uchiha Madara” instead of the line ” The sharingans power”…get me?…….he is Obito…Obito switched around is tobi after all excluding an extra “O”

  • zep said:

    Can’t wait for the next chapter to come out. When dose it come out?

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    “Lol, To satisfy everyone’s tastes: here’s an extremely large platter of chocolate chip, macadania nut, peanut butter, oatmeal and raisin, and brownies. Take whatever one you want.” Interesting. Virtual food. XD But take your time with the next post! ;D No rush.
    Note to Michael: Chill. Perhaps take a pill. ^-^ People just like some of the theories going ’round! One of the most popular topics of discussion is Tobi-Obito-madara’s real identity! :)

  • zep said:

    Yeah, what she said (yeah, E.R.Nefarious is a she).

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    WHY IS THAT SO WEIRD THAT I’M A CHICK?!?!
    T_T Screw it. I’ll change the name…
    Anyhoo, quick note for Bob-o. I gots me a brand spankin’ new kanji and kana book, so the next thing I’ll send ya’ will probably be numbers and counting in kanji (or somthing like that).

  • Michael said:

    lol….im not mad or w/e, this is my first time ever posting one of these….i just wanted to get my point across, no hostility here. I just always read these to see what people think

  • zep said:

    sorry Nef. just didn’t want people to think you were a guy, like that they will know already. sorry if i offended. I mean fuck, shit, goddamn (got a repto maintain. lol)

  • mr. doctor profesor shoe said:

    hmm michael i guess ur right cauz it does make sense what u said, but the translations arent always the same and japanese grammar is different the transation rly reads something like the sharingans true power, my uchiha madaras power but still very hard to understand exactly what he meant

  • Uchiha Masachi said:

    SPOILER 4 374

    Part 1 – First half

    The picture of the five bodies are lies

    No cover

    Jiraiya: An outsider?…. Certainly..

    Pain: Won’t you release Konan for me?

    Jiraiya: I can’t do that sort of thing now, i still want to know so much

    Pain: … so you know now what? Sensei, you will die from now…

    Jiraiya looks at Pain with contempt

    Jiraiya: … Nagato… What happened to Yahiko

    Konan: … Sensei that’s irrelevant for you…

    Jiraiya: Didn’t Yahiko protect you? What about you Nagato

    Pain’s eyes rise

    JIraiya: …

    Pain: After all, it’s only good if you die Sensei, isn’t it

    Jiraiya: Heh

    Pain: Konan.. aren’t you going to come down and rest…

    Konan: …

    Pain jumps off (i’m assuming the ledge he was on, in the last panel of last chapt)

    As Pain lands on the ground, a heavy weight follows him which seems to crack the floor

    Pain: I will kill this person.

    Jiraiya glares at Pain

    Second half -

    Scene changes to Naruto

    KIba: Yeah!!! just like i had thought, we might be able to quickly overtake Sasuke

    Shin: But this direction.. isn’t he heading towards Konoha?

    Kakashi: This direction is to Konoha you’re probably right but… on their side it seems they may have a chakra sensing type shinobi with them

    Yamato: So what does this mean?

    Kakashi: If it’s the case they do have a chakra sensing type shinobi, then they can keep avoiding naruto’s kagebunshin right?

    Sakura: Why don’t we purposely offshoot them with a kagebunshin and meet them?

    Kakashi: But it might be a trap…

    Naruto: That sort of thing doesn’t matter ! There’s no mistaking it this time, we’ll get Sasuke !!

    Kakashi: …

    Hinata: !!!

    Someone says: Stop!!

    A line of wood stops them

    Naruto: What the hell, Hinata!! We have to hurry !!

    Hinata: There..!!!

    Zetsu comes out of the place where Hinata points to

    Added ammendments, thankyou to Seta and credits to samnas

    Zetsu: (White eye power) Byakugan…

    Zetsu: I wonder what kinda taste it has?

    Well if we don’t eat it, we won’t know

    Naruto takes a fighting stance

    Kakashi: Eh… Akatsuki?…

    Scene changes to Jiraiya

    Jiraiya: !!

    Pain faces JIraiya and begins to run towards him

    Jiraiya: Fast!!

    Pain does a turning kick to Jiraiya but he dodges it

    Konan: !!

    The hair that was around Konan comes off

    Pain: Come down already

    Pain does a seal

    Pain: It is already over

    Pain focuses the centre of his foot on where the crack is

    Jiraiya: …

    Pain glares at Jiraiya

    Finish

    done, i’m off to sleep ^^

  • mr. doctor profesor shoe said:

    cool i wonder if this happens if it does where u find it? i go to naruto fan but i dun think its out yet

  • Bob said:

    “If you use proper grammar you would understand that in the chapter he says “the power of Uchiha Madara”….not ” The power of me, Uchiha Madara”.”

    I’m not a native japanese speaker, so I can only depend on the translations from the different scalantor groups. You’re right, some do translate it as “the power of Uchiha Madara”, but others interpreted it as something like “..my power, Uchiha Madara’s Power.” I think Kishi deliberately left it ambiguous in the manga to keep us fans guessing. I still think Tobi is Obito’s body with Madara’s power or soul possessing him.

    Thanks for making this point, this is the whole point of disussion :) Nef kinda pounced on ya there, but she’s like the unofficial blog enforcer. She can benchpress 200 easy, so keep on her good side :P

  • Uchiha Masachi said:

    :D

  • zep said:

    Masachi, where did you get the info from? Youtube?

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    “Nef kinda pounced on ya there, but she’s like the unofficial blog enforcer.” …./-_-\;; Sorry, Michael, if I jumped on ya’. Just don’t want any bickering starting up here! It’s happened in the past and was terribly unpleasant. ^_^;; And I had no idea that it was your first post! Welcome!
    ;D And I wasn’t offended, Zep. It’s just baffeling at times.

  • mr. doctor profesor dentist shoe said:

    maby masachi is a spy or he is masashi kishimoto in disguise oooooh! that would be cool :) (sorry for the increasingly long name :s

  • Uchiha Masachi said:

    i;ve search it in google… i forgot the website….

    there’s no pics in there just a summary of the manga!

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    It’d be soooo cool if Kishimoto was looking around sites like these! ^__^

  • scrubby said:

    do anyone think that if Naruto was to find Sasuke and they fought that Sasuke would win again?

  • zep said:

    tahat is for Kishimoto to decide.

  • mr. doctor profesor dentist shoe said:

    also naruto has found sasuke already(im pretty sure sasuke would win)

  • scrubby said:

    well what make me upset about Naruto is that he’s not serious with learning new fighting jutsu skills like his father did and that’s what holds him back from being alot stronger than he is right now in the mangas

  • Sakamura Mikado said:

    I didn’t think that Minato element would be water but I was hopeing Naruto’s would be from his mom. So Wind and Water makes ice so that would be pretty cool for Naruto and his clones…

  • scrubby said:

    i might be going crazy but i think to folk talks of the Eight-tail snake Orchi is going to come into play later in the series and be sealed inside S……

  • Sakamura Mikado said:

    Also Sasuke would have to win cause he has complete control over his body and curse seal…Naruto has to get mad or get very desperate to do it. Besides Sasuke just has to look into his eyes or point a find to do it…so Naruto would have to use his Shadow Clones to stall him but Sasuke could see the fakes from the real cause of the movements but yeah…

  • manga's rock said:

    naruto would win he has the rasen shuriken and he could go to 4 tails form and uses kyuubis chakra blast =P

  • mr. doctor profesor dentist shoe said:

    umm one problem just cauz naruto haz wind shuriken doesnt mean ha could use it 1) he isnt allowed to use it(though he would any way, so that was stupid) 2) sasuke could easily dodge and 3) he doesnt want to kill sasuke

  • Sakamura Mikado said:

    I just found out that Jiraiya was 26 when training Minato…so he must of been 23 when training Konan, Pein and that other dude…after leaveing he trained Minato…so this must mean that…oh shit I don’t know…but those are some facts…think away!!!

  • manga's rock said:

    dude jiraiya rocks altho theres like a 80% chance he gets killed by Pein some have shown mangas from the creator that shouldnt b realsed and others just make up wierd theorys but i think hes gonna die Pein is realy strong and the series would be more dramatic if Jiraiya dies

  • Bob said:

    hate to say it but right now Naruto doesn’t stand a chance against Sasuke. Having one powerful jutsu doesn’t win you the battle and switching to the 4-tails is just Naruto handing over control of his body to Kyuubi – he also has no way of turning back unless someone like Jiraiya or Yamato is with him. But let’s forget the power-ups and look at Sasuke and Naruto in their normal states. The Chidori is probably weaker than the Rasengan, but Sasuke’s not stupid enough to risk a head-to-head charge. Naruto is using his shadow clone technique better but it’s no match against Sasuke’s Sharingan. But what Naruto really has to worry about is Sasuke’s speed; Sasuke’s body flicker is mad fast now and I’m afraid there’s nothing in Naruto’s current arsenal to counter it. There’s no point in having the Rasen Shuriken if Sasuke can close the distance before Naruto can even power it up.

  • Sakamura Mikado said:

    Too bad Fire is stronger against Wind. Don’t get me wrong I am a Naruto fan but gotta go by the facts…

  • Sakamura Mikado said:

    Bob your the shit dude!!!

  • smexy shoe said:

    ya the rasen shuriken wont work cauz 1) sasuke will easily avoid it 2)naruto isnt aloud to use it(he would anyway though) 3) he doesnt wanna kill sasuke and 4) sasuke is still way more powerful with as bob said body flicker(course naruto should learn that too cauz hes minatos son) and he has all sorts of chidori forms. Sasuke also easily deafeted orochimaru and naruto still couldnt rly compare to him in 4 tails( although sasuke had curse seal and thats what easily took over orochis body, not the stranghth of cuse seal but it just spread to orochis skin

  • Sakamura Mikado said:

    Don’t forget Orochimaru was in a weak state after fighting NARUTO so Naruto took care of business while Sasuke took out the trash…as usual ;’)

  • wow! said:

    i agree naruto would easily get demolished by sasuke! sasuke moves so damn fast and he took out orochimaru on his own! naruto couldnt even kill him in 4 tails….and hes half demon wtf?

  • LadyP said:

    If Naruto learns Minato’s Flying Thunder God Technique, then he could counter Sasuke’s Sharingan. And Sasuke’s Cursed Seal of Heaven essentially matches with Naruto’s Kyuubi. (But Sasuke would be in control.) But remember, Naruto has an exceptionally large amount of chakra while Sasuke has an average amount. Naruto can use his Kage Bunshin effectively now, with training and fighting now. Who knows? I still hope Naruto gets to beat the crap out of Sasuke, but hopefully with Sakura’s help. :)

  • J-sama said:

    Everybody says that even in 4-tail stage naruto has no chance against sasuke. But what about in 9-tales form? If he unlesashes that Sasuke’s pretty much finnished.

  • Uchiha Masachi said:

    even in 9 tails form, naruto doesnt have a chance, bcoz sasuke has the blood of uchiha, remeber when the kyuubi and sasuke meet at naruto’s mind…
    sasuke just squeeze the 9 tails chakra face!

    and sasuke now knows about the kyuubi inside naruto, maybe he found it out in the uchiha’s secret hideout…

    but don’t forget that naruto could excced the powers of sasuke, bcoz of his kage bunshin training!!! he can easily progress for 1 year in training…
    1 year equivalent of 50 years.. LOL!!!:))

  • smexy shoe said:

    hmm this is just a thought but doesnt it mean that if naruto goes 9 tails the kyuubi is realesed from him so naruto no longer has the kyuubi in him

  • ANBU LEADER P said:

    HELLOOOO sori 2 my allies of da shannaro 4 i havnt been on lately coz its bac 2 school :( … any wazs i got a 4 day weekend coming up soon so we can chat proerly coz u guys will b awake wen i get on which is 7pm in ur time :)

    mayb sasuke could own naruto but if naruto trains harder with da help of his bunshin n control da nine tails in 4 tail he could prob beat da crap out of sasuke

  • Free Ramen said:

    Just want to say awesome site. Also I was reading some of the older mangas a few days ago and I was just wondering, if Jiraiya and Tsnuada knew who Naruto’s parents were why do they not tell him, plus does Naruto even know that Minato was the one who sealed the nine-tailed fox in him? Sorry just throwing out random questions.

  • ANBU LEADER P said:

    anywazs im off 2 bed
    TAKE CARE comrades of da SHINNARO 5 n talk soon:)
    n
    TACKE CAE PEOPLES cya

  • Sakumo Hatake said:

    So, with what was posted by Masachi a little while ago, is it saying that Jiraiya is finished. I find it overly hard to believe that he can be beaten so easily!

  • Nameless said:

    Why is everyone saying that Naruto has absolutely no chance against Sasuke? What you guys are saying are just all technical reasons on why Naruto would lose. But what you’re forgetting that Naruto has ALWAYS been the underdog in all of his battles, and he comes out on top most of the time. The battles aren’t so easily predicted like what you guys are doing, otherwise it wouldn’t be interesting. And for the people who said that fire beats wind. Yes that is true, but only if the two techniques are of the same calibur. Naruto’s Rasenshuriken is of a way higher level than any of Sasuke’s fire attacks. As for Sasuke’s speed, you’re also forgetting that Naruto can mix himself in with his Kagebunshins.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Nameless has a good point. Naruto doesn’t exactly shine brightly in many ninja skills, but he has the awesome abillity of pulling a victory out of his ass! Also, it’s implied that Naruto will eventually be able to have better control of the Kyuubi’s chakara, the only problem being how the hell he’s supposed to PRACTICE controling that chakara.
    Also, Sasuke still has a long way to go with the sharingan. He can control the chidori to a crazy extent, yes, but he still isn’t on the same level as Itachi and Kakashi might still have the lead, too!
    Does anybody here think Jiraiya’s gonna’ bust out a new jutsu soon? My money’s on the Flying Thunder God technique.

  • zep said:

    that will be interesting to Jiraiya using the Flying Thunder God Jutsu. Matbe Minato taught it to him, OR VICE VERSA.

  • J-sama said:

    Jiariya will definetly show us at least 1 new jutsu, but I’m not sure it’s gonna be minato’s techniqe.
    Also when poeple say naruto “can mix in” whit his clones let’s not forget that the sharingan can see witch is the real one (unlike the byakugan).
    And since Sasuke can also do Kage bunshin if he can get enough chakra from somewhere he can train the same way as Naruto.
    But if tey were to fight I’m sure naruto would win this time.

  • zep said:

    Well, Jiraiya has been using new techniques since he started his investigation.

  • Uchiha Masachi said:

    FYI Guyz!!! Jiraiya summon a new frog holding a trident or something….

    hehehe. pein summoned 2 kinds of animal already… i think the first one is somekind of a crab/lobster mix… andd the 2nd one is an iguana……

  • Uchiha Masachi said:

    guys sorry 4 the wrong info about the 374 summary that i posted….

  • J-sama said:

    Yeah! Jiraiya’s got some awsome hair power!!!!!

  • J-sama said:

    And actually it’s a chameleon not an iguana.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    What’s a crab/lobster? Clobster, Clabster? A hentai joke?

  • zep said:

    did you guys see the chapter at Youtube?

  • Nameless said:

    The sharingan can’t distinguish real from shadow clone…

  • Nameless said:

    Although.. Sasuke does seem to have a trump card technique. He intended to use it to destroy Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Yamato all at once, so it’s probably something really powerful.

  • zep said:

    when was this? i don’t remember such an attack.

  • scrubby said:

    yea u right “nameless” the sharingan can’t tell which of naruto’s clones are real or not because naruto and his clone all haves the same amount of chakara but i think naruto would still lose to sasuke because sasuke uses the chakara he does have really good just like he destroyed itachi clone so easily and everyone forgetting about sasuke ability to use the dimensional transportation jutsu

  • zep said:

    I’m still interested on the whole Itachi-might-being-good thing.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    If ya’ want me to go through the probable scenarios, just say so, Zep. It’s pretty obvious that Itachi is gonna’ end up being one of those last minute anti-heroes.

  • Elevated Hand Slap said:

    Scrubby, punctuation is your friend.

  • scrubby said:

    lol i will sharpen up on my writing skills “Elevated”.

  • scrubby said:

    Who knows what the big thing that Akatsuki is putting all the bijuu’s in? And what is its purpose?

  • zep said:

    I’ll ask Zetsu on our next “Humans are friends, not food” meeting.

  • Tu madre said:

    all of you grow up

  • J-sama said:

    That’s easy.It’s a gathering device. And it’s purpose is to hold the bijuu.
    Does that answer your question(probably not).

  • scrubby said:

    So are they trying to conbine all the bijuu’s together and use the power for some purpose huh?

  • zep said:

    I wonder if Akatsuki is going to use them, or just getting them out of the way so they won’t interfere. The Bijuu, I mean.

  • J-sama said:

    They’ll definetly use’em.

  • scrubby said:

    where can u read kakashi gaiden manga’s online?

  • smexy shoe said:

    umm well i use naruto fan

  • Bob said:

    I hope you’re not paying naruto fan for it

  • ANBU LEADER P said:

    i recon jiraiya knows da body flicker technique n will use it wen fighting pein

  • Bob said:

    but why hasn’t he used it before, like when fighting Itachi or Orochimaru?

  • ANBU LEADER P said:

    mayb only 4 a critical moment wen like he is about to lose or sumthing

  • ANBU LEADER P said:

    it would b cool if jiraiya did now it n taught it 2 naruto

  • Bob said:

    It could also be part of Minato’s legacy left inside that scroll frog thing along with the key to the kyuubi seal.

  • manga's rock said:

    almost everyone can usethe body flicker >.

  • manga's rock said:

    i heard jiraiya dies from sorta water sword jutsu

  • Bob said:

    If Jiraiya is going to die, I doubt Kishi will kill him right off the bat in this next chapter – a bit anti-climatic especially for such an important character.

  • Uchiha Masachi said:

    If you to read for free heres another website….

    http://groups.msn.com/NarutoMangaReturns

  • scrubby said:

    In chapter 274 Jiraiya is fighting one of Pein clones not the real one to see how strong is his old teacher before putting his own life on the line that’s what i think is going to be affirmed within a couple weeks.

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    From the looks of things, Nagato is was using Yahiko’s old body. Take a look at the hair. And Masachi’s link proves that Yahiko died, so Pein/Nagato could just use the corpses of people for different things.
    Sorry about “Hand Slap” up there. My brother stole the computer when I was making dinner. Sorry! ^-^;;

  • scrubby said:

    who can beat itachi in a one-on-one fight?

  • Uchiha Masachi said:

    Konohamaru :p

  • manga's rock said:

    Jiraiya can beat itachi in a 1 on 1 fight kisame said so ^-^

  • manga's rock said:

    Pein/Nagato cant use Yohiko’s body because he died a long time ago a dead body doesnt age

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    True, a dead body doesn’t age, but look at how old Konan looks. The body that resembles Yahiko doesn’t look any younger than her or Pein/Nagato’s second body. Yahiko may have died awhile ago, but he was still an adule at the time, right? o_o I suck at time-lines, though, so I’m probably wrong…

  • manga's rock said:

    nah that is a good theory it does make alot of sense but the reson Pein is useing Deidara’s body is so he doesnt damage his strongest body wich is Yohiko’s body Peins elements are water and wind i just think he has diffrent bodys so he doesnt die in battle because if Deidar’and Yahiko’s body can both use water style attacks then each body doesnt have its own element

  • manga's rock said:

    does anyone eles think tht Pein killed elite ppl to gain there strengths and jutsus cuz he can summon a giant lizard salamander iguana thing i think Hanzou Salamander could summon it nad hes the only one in like the whole series I’ve seen summon 2 diffrent types of monsters

  • manga's rock said:

    Pein probably kill Yohiko and gained his water abilitys sense Pein/Nagato’s element is wind O_o tht would give a good theory on how he can use alot of diffrent jutsus but all based on water water beast (giant crab thing) and water like animals like amphibians ( tht wierd lizard thing) and from what we know hes killed Hanzou wich was from the rain and everyone hes foughtin was from water

  • yourshoe said:

    hey were can i learn more about hanzou cuz i dun know anything about him till the latest chapters and that he was strong but thats it

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Manga’s Rock (I’ll just call you”Rock),
    Didn’t Nagato promise to keep his friends safe? Maybe he went nuts when Yahiko died, since Yahiko got killed protecting them, or something… Then Nagato recycled Yahiko’s body… That still seems kinda’ creepy….

  • manga's rock said:

    umm no one ral knows tht much they’re to lazy to make stuff up

  • manga's rock said:

    abotu hanzou tht is

  • manga's rock said:

    hey does anyone think shikamaru sucks if u do ur gay he kicks ass just saying >.>

  • manga's rock said:

    also does anyone play ragnarok?

  • manga's rock said:

    damn like no one goes on this any more??

  • pein said:

    i think the six paths means the six different chakra elements genjutsu taijutsu ninjutsu doujutsu kekkei genkai and the last one

  • noname said:

    but don’t you think yahiko is that crazy bloodthirsty guy whos with sasuke?

  • noname said:

    and i used to play ragnarok

  • Kidoju said:

    i don’t think that Juugo is Yahiko.

  • Kidoju said:

    if Yahiko was Juugo, i think pein would’ve kept him around for the curse mark power.

  • Kidoju said:

    couldn’t sasuke have come up with anything cooler or at least more original for his new crew’s name?

    i mean c’mon, snake?

    something to do with power or torment would have been cooler.

    oh, and hi lol

  • Kidoju said:

    this isn’t why i joined, but um…

    I WANT A COOKIE :)

  • Kidoju said:

    dudes? E. R. Nefarious? is there anybody left in this world?

  • E.R.Nefarious said:

    Yeah. We’re all her, just busy as hell. New blogs should be coming soon (there have already been some)! It’ll be a little bit! ^_^;;

  • manga's rock said:

    RAGNAROK ROCKS join blackoutRO =D lol anyways umm the six paths are the six elements they already showd it jiraya is dead and umm yeah =D

  • Kidoju said:

    good to see someone’s here. ^_^

    how’s everyone doing?

  • NSS7 said:

    is the author ever going to reveal the sixth element

  • Kidoju said:

    well we have water, lightning, wind, earth, fire, and i would think the that last one is a type of arcane.

    like just normal type jutsu

    but that’s just an idea

  • SASORI ROCKS said:

    I think that narutos the best but i like sasori

  • manga's rock said:

    sasori rocks but he got his ass beat by sakura =\ but yeah they are the 6 elements and jiraya died if anyone didnt know Tobi is Madara and naruto vs Tobi Sasuke vs Itachi is going on right now =D

  • Kidoju said:

    sasuke stabbed itachi from behind the chair!

    that cheapass…

    if that’s the en of that fight, i’m gonna b pissed. itachi’s way better than just getting stabbed from behind a chair.

  • Pein "the god" said:

    i have one question… If Pein shows himself with the body of yahiko how das nagato look like ??? And is it possible that Pein is the older brother of naruto because i have seen a pic where a slogen said brothers, maybe? enemies, definitly! and in the background naruto and pein are shown

  • Mr. X said:

    The Sage of the Six Paths is Inuyasha, who collected the magatama from Mamoru Kusanagi while time-travelling into the future.

  • Mr. X said:

    I have proof too. This is the face of the Sage of the Six Paths:

    http://tinyurl.com/2q9j9y

  • Uncouth said:

    Mr. X, I can’t believe it, but you’re right. Thanks for the link, it explains everything!

  • Big Daddy Jiraiya said:

    in response to Kidoju, the last element could be, Heart, GO CAPTAIN PLANET!!! lol idk but i dont think its an element but something neutral that allows them to combine? idk

  • jun said:

    i think there is another “eye technique” the one that defeated the byakugan during the mission about the guy who loves to bury his capture in the ground and releases a really thick cloud of fog, this kid is always on a guy’s shoulder because he is crippled! right? remember?

  • We Are Hawk said:

    tought bttle

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